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• List, Now this might sound like a new OT campaign concerning some foo. But it isn t. It is in interest of FOSS projects. The idea is straightforward, and could
Message 1 of 6 , Jun 4, 2008
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List,

Now this might sound like a new OT campaign concerning
some foo. But it isn't. It is in interest of FOSS
projects.

The idea is straightforward, and could have different
implementations.

If I can safely assume, a five rupee coin (or five one
rupee coins) is a small little amount to donate. Yes,
a plan to fund FOSS projects.

Looking at the statistics previous years at foss.in,
the numbers have usually been of (10 ^ 3) * n (where n
<= 3)

==PLAN ONE==
So, if there are five big projects which need money
(may be a small donation, can keep them going) there
could be five such boxes (each with their labels) and
each one carrying those five one rupee coins, drops it
in the box.

==PLAN TWO==
Since, delegates pay an entry fee for the conference,
each delegate could be charged, five rupees, extra
(and pay them in five one rupee coins) which could be
given to the need projects.

==PLAN THREE==
Some non-profit registered organization, could do the
collection at a booth at foss.in and hand it over to
the project.

==How does it work? (if it does)==
Assuming, around 2500/- people attend this conference,
even if 1000/- people donate one rupee each for each
project, each project gets Rs. 1000/-.

That may not be a very big amount, but it could be
significant enough.

==What problems it could have?==
I'm don't know, how taxes are associated with
donations, concerning the organization receiving the
donation and the donor (if there are).

Resistance from paying an extra amount.

==Why do I pay?==
I couldn't have a very convincing answer.

But if you could just reconsider the resources put by
developers and the hardware requirements of FOSS
(the internet bills are possibly the only thing that
you might be paying for FOSS stuff), it would be a
sense of gratitude towards the project and to those
involved in it.

I welcome all suggestions / changes / criticisms.

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• ... +1 Cheerio, Debarshi
Message 2 of 6 , Jun 5, 2008
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> If I can safely assume, a five rupee coin (or five one
> rupee coins) is a small little amount to donate. Yes,
> a plan to fund FOSS projects.
>
> Looking at the statistics previous years at foss.in,
> the numbers have usually been of (10 ^ 3) * n (where n
> <= 3)
>
> ==PLAN ONE==
> So, if there are five big projects which need money
> (may be a small donation, can keep them going) there
> could be five such boxes (each with their labels) and
> each one carrying those five one rupee coins, drops it
> in the box.
>
> ==PLAN TWO==
> Since, delegates pay an entry fee for the conference,
> each delegate could be charged, five rupees, extra
> (and pay them in five one rupee coins) which could be
> given to the need projects.
>
> ==PLAN THREE==
> Some non-profit registered organization, could do the
> collection at a booth at foss.in and hand it over to
> the project.

+1

Cheerio,
Debarshi
• ... Make sure you have figured out what exactly you are going to do with any money you collect. As you yourself pointed out, there is a lot of red tape
Message 3 of 6 , Jun 5, 2008
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Roshan wrote:
>
> But if you could just reconsider the resources put by
> developers and the hardware requirements of FOSS
> (the internet bills are possibly the only thing that
> you might be paying for FOSS stuff), it would be a
> sense of gratitude towards the project and to those
> involved in it.

Make sure you have figured out what exactly you are going to do with any
money you collect.

As you yourself pointed out, there is a lot of red tape involved in
accepting donations. When, a few people offered to donate money to the
Xfce project, we finally decided to decline because of overhead involved
in accepting money.

The second problem was -- what to do with the money? None of the devs
was particularly hard up and anyway it wasn't enough it make a big
difference to anyone. We didn't need any hardware and since we were on
three different continents having a drink was difficult.

On the other hand, donations in kind are easy to accept. We got servers,
and hosting like this.

Finally, I still think that the best donation is time -- spend some time
to contribute.

But if you must collect money, you need to do the following:

a. Ensure you are legally entitled to accept cash payments.

b. Ensure you have a list of specific uses for the money in mind, for
example:
* Sample hardware for project foo.
* Allow maintainer of project bar to take two months off to add
feature X.

HTH,

-- b
Message 4 of 6 , Jun 5, 2008
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Roshan wrote:

> If I can safely assume, a five rupee coin (or five one
> rupee coins) is a small little amount to donate. Yes,
> a plan to fund FOSS projects.

http://t3.dotgnu.info/blog/conferences/would-you-do-it-again

> Looking at the statistics previous years at foss.in,
> the numbers have usually been of (10 ^ 3) * n (where n
> <= 3)

Projects don't need money, they need resources.

People are expensive resources to maintain and hardware
& bandwidth is infinitely cheaper to offer.

(for instance, that blog is hosted on some guy's basement
in Zurich)

Cheers,
Gopal
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• ... +1. -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Blogs: {ftbfs,kartikm}.wordpress.com
Message 5 of 6 , Jun 5, 2008
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Gopal V <gopalv82@...> wrote:
> Projects don't need money, they need resources.
>
> People are expensive resources to maintain and hardware
> & bandwidth is infinitely cheaper to offer.

+1.

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Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_
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• ... ...and much more useful to a project. The project itself wouldn t exist if it didn t have people. The need money for FOSS project thing is really unique
Message 6 of 6 , Jun 5, 2008
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On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Gopal V wrote:

> People are expensive resources to maintain and hardware
> & bandwidth is infinitely cheaper to offer.

...and much more useful to a project. The project itself wouldn't exist if
it didn't have people.

The "need money for FOSS project" thing is really unique to our side of
the world, where people haven't quite "got it" as far as FOSS motivation
is concerned. :)

I don't really know of anyone who does a FOSS project because he gets paid
for it.

And having said that, I'd like to declare this subject closed (on this
list, anyway), since it really has nothing to do with the FOSS.IN event.
Feel free to take it to linux-bangalore-non-tech or Linux India General,
where it would be on-topic.

Thanks!

Atul

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Atul Chitnis
Bangalore, India
http://atulchitnis.net
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