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Re: The Death of Dr. David Kelly

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  • John Lloyd Scharf
    How many of these examined the body? ... given at the Hutton inquiry has demonstrated that Dr David Kelly committed suicide. ... concluded that Dr Kelly bled
    Message 1 of 5 , Oct 1, 2011
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      How many of these examined the body?
      --- In forensic-science@yahoogroups.com, "nonarevers" <nutteing@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Are you aware of this "conspiracy" of medical doctors?
      >
      > Andrew Rouse
      > Public health consultant
      > Searle Sennett
      > Specialist in anaesthesiology
      > David Halpin
      > Specialist in trauma
      > Stephen Frost
      > Specialist in radiology
      > Dr Peter Fletcher
      > Specialist in pathology
      > Martin Birnstingl
      > Specialist in vascular surgery
      >
      > "As specialist medical professionals, we do not consider the evidence
      given at the Hutton inquiry has demonstrated that Dr David Kelly
      committed suicide.
      >
      > Dr Nicholas Hunt, the forensic pathologist at the Hutton inquiry,
      concluded that Dr Kelly bled to death from a self-inflicted wound to his
      left wrist. We view this as highly improbable. Arteries in the wrist are
      of matchstick thickness and severing them does not lead to
      life-threatening blood loss. Dr Hunt stated that the only artery that
      had been cut - the ulnar artery - had been completely transected.
      Complete transection causes the artery to quickly retract and close
      down, and this promotes clotting of the blood. ... "
      >
      > http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2004/jan/27/guardianletters4
      > http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/feb/12/davidkelly.huttonreport
      >
      >
      > ps
      > What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
      > and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
      > http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
      > or nutteingd in a search engine.
      >
      >
      > --- In forensic-science@yahoogroups.com, "drandrewwatt"
      andrewwattchilcot@ wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi,
      > >
      > > I've just joined the group, primarily to seek perspective from group
      members on various technical issues relating to a suspicious death that
      is the subject of ongoing controversy in the UK.
      > >
      > > I'm referring to the death of weapons inspector Dr. David Kelly in
      Oxfordshire in July 2003.
      > >
      > > The official conclusion (at the Hutton Inquiry) was suicide.
      > >
      > > I, and a number of other doctors, suspect that Dr. Kelly was
      murdered.
      > >
      > > I hope to pose specific questions, as time allows, over the next few
      days and weeks.
      > >
      > > I hope that I'm not breaching any group etiquette in using the group
      to discuss very specific technical issues.
      > >
      > > Thanks
      > >
      > > (Dr) Andrew Watt
      > >
      >
    • Andrew Watt
      The postmortem report is publicly available on the UK Ministry of Justice web site. See
      Message 2 of 5 , Apr 13, 2012
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        The postmortem report is publicly available on the UK Ministry of Justice
        web site.

        See
        http://www.justice.gov.uk/publications/corporate-reports/moj/2010/dr-kelly-post-mortem-and-toxicology-reportsfor
        the relevant links to the postmortem and toxicology reports.

        Dr. Nicholas Hunt, the forensic pathologist, notices the scar at the right
        elbow but fails, for example, to think about the existence of a past
        operative procedure and the functional implication of possible
        post-traumatic arthritis.

        He then postulates on flimsy evidence that David Kelly killed himself.

        Worryingly sloppy? Or premeditatedly dishonest?

        Andrew Watt

        On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:30 PM, John Lloyd Scharf <
        johnlloydscharf@...> wrote:

        > **
        >
        >
        > How many of these examined the body?
        > --- In forensic-science@yahoogroups.com, "nonarevers" <nutteing@...>
        > wrote:
        > >
        > > Are you aware of this "conspiracy" of medical doctors?
        > >
        > > Andrew Rouse
        > > Public health consultant
        > > Searle Sennett
        > > Specialist in anaesthesiology
        > > David Halpin
        > > Specialist in trauma
        > > Stephen Frost
        > > Specialist in radiology
        > > Dr Peter Fletcher
        > > Specialist in pathology
        > > Martin Birnstingl
        > > Specialist in vascular surgery
        > >
        > > "As specialist medical professionals, we do not consider the evidence
        > given at the Hutton inquiry has demonstrated that Dr David Kelly
        > committed suicide.
        > >
        > > Dr Nicholas Hunt, the forensic pathologist at the Hutton inquiry,
        > concluded that Dr Kelly bled to death from a self-inflicted wound to his
        > left wrist. We view this as highly improbable. Arteries in the wrist are
        > of matchstick thickness and severing them does not lead to
        > life-threatening blood loss. Dr Hunt stated that the only artery that
        > had been cut - the ulnar artery - had been completely transected.
        > Complete transection causes the artery to quickly retract and close
        > down, and this promotes clotting of the blood. ... "
        > >
        > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2004/jan/27/guardianletters4
        > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/feb/12/davidkelly.huttonreport
        > >
        > >
        > > ps
        > > What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
        > > and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
        > > http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
        > > or nutteingd in a search engine.
        > >
        > >
        > > --- In forensic-science@yahoogroups.com, "drandrewwatt"
        >
        > andrewwattchilcot@ wrote:
        > > >
        > > > Hi,
        > > >
        > > > I've just joined the group, primarily to seek perspective from group
        > members on various technical issues relating to a suspicious death that
        > is the subject of ongoing controversy in the UK.
        > > >
        > > > I'm referring to the death of weapons inspector Dr. David Kelly in
        > Oxfordshire in July 2003.
        > > >
        > > > The official conclusion (at the Hutton Inquiry) was suicide.
        > > >
        > > > I, and a number of other doctors, suspect that Dr. Kelly was
        > murdered.
        > > >
        > > > I hope to pose specific questions, as time allows, over the next few
        > days and weeks.
        > > >
        > > > I hope that I'm not breaching any group etiquette in using the group
        > to discuss very specific technical issues.
        > > >
        > > > Thanks
        > > >
        > > > (Dr) Andrew Watt
        > > >
        > >
        >
        >
        >


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