David, de help-moderatoren er fur helpe de hovd-moderator, fur de fall, dat hi mag nit make sin arbed. For dat hav ik votered fur dat de help-moderatoren werd selektered fram de hovd-moderator. Wan de "folk" selekter mannig moderatoren, it mag wese, dat dee hav ferschilling ansichten ov hu to make de arbed, ond dis mag hindre de arbed fan de hovd-moderator.
Translation: Out of sheer perversity. ;)
Stephan / stefichjo
Von: David Parke <parked@...>
Gesendet: Montag, den 16. März 2009, 14:53:15 Uhr
Betreff: [folkspraak] Re: New poll for folkspraak
Stephan Schneider, I sometimes wonder if you do some things purely out of perversity :-)
How can you vote that the the moderators are equal in power/responsibilit y. But also that only the primary moderator (the number one equal person) is elected and the other mods are appointed by him/her. Makes not much sense to me!
--- In folkspraak@yahoogro ups.com, David Parke <parked@...> wrote:
> I said that I was elected as interim moderator for this group and I
> would stay in this position for 3 months until we can hold elections for
> a more permanent arrangement.
> That means I want the election of the new moderator to be completed by
> the 20th of May. I think the poll should last for 2 weeks, so the poll
> should open on the 6th of May.
> The reason I want to go through the whole exercise again of electing a
> moderator, is I would like to see the powers and responsibilities of the
> moderators clearly defined in a document somewhere. So we know who we
> are electing, and what we the members give them consent to do. I'm
> pretty sure that currently I can delete spam and ban spammators and
> no-one will object. But if I started banning ordinary members or
> changing group settings, I think that would be going too far, given the
> circumstances under which I was elected.
> So sometime between now and the 6th of May, we need to have a document
> that has a job description of the moderators and what powers and
> responsibilities are mandated to them.
> How I would suggest we do this, is whoever is interested, writes a
> document detailing how they see the moderators' job. Including the term
> they are elected for, how many of them, the method of election, what
> things they must do, what things they have discretionary power to do and
> what things they must not do.
> We can have a debate and critique of each persons proposal. If we
> choose, we can modify our proposals based on an ideas or criticisms that
> come up. But in the end, we hold a poll for the proposal and the most
> popular one becomes the official job description for the moderators.
> The election that we hold on 6 May - 20 May will be for the moderators
> and they will occupy the post under the conditions in the job
> description document that we have polled.
> So members, please get writing and come up with some job-description
> documents. We need them ready and we need to hold a poll for them BEFORE
> the start of the moderator polls. If we let the poll run 2 weeks, we'd
> need the proposals ready for that time. The poll would have to open on
> 22 April at the latest.
> Also if anybody is aware of any successful Yahoo! groups that are
> moderated and have democratically elected and mandated moderators, let
> us know. Perhaps we can copy our job descriptions from them. That would
> seem a lot easier than writing one from scratch. I have quite a few
> ideas of what to put in my proposal. But I am rather discourages from
> starting to write one, because I think it'd occupy a lot of my rather
> scarce time.
> folkspraak@yahoogro ups.com wrote:
> > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> > folkspraak group:
> > INDICATIVE POLL -- NON-BINDING
> > Indicated by the results of the previous poll, the Folkspraak Yahoo! Group should have 3 moderators. Assuming that that is the case and we have more than 1 moderator, how should the 3 positions of moderator be determined?
> > o One popular vote the for position of moderator. The 3 most popular candidates become the 3 moderators. If there is a primary moderator and vice moderators, then the top-voted candidate becomes primary moderator, and the next two become vice-moderators.
> > o A separate poll for each of the 3 positions. So candidates can stand for the position of number 1 moderator, or for number 2 moderator or for number 3 moderator.
> > o Only the primary moderator is elected. The primary moderator has the discretionary power to appoint 2 vice-moderators.
> > o Other -- please post on the group your ideas.
> > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/folkspraak /surveys? id=2838196
> > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
> > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
> > web site listed above.
> > Thanks!
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