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Re: [folkspraak] Digest Number 75

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  • Jonathan North Washington
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    Message 1 of 2 , Mar 7, 2000
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      > Also, I was wondering how other Germanic languages treat things like 'can'
      > and 'would'; I know in French that there is no adverb 'can' + conj. verb,
      > but rather the verb 'be able to' + infinitive. And where we use 'would' as
      > an auxiliary/adverb/whatever, the French have a whole other conjugation
      for
      > the 'conditional' tense. 'Should' gets even wierder, it's 'to be able' in
      > the conditional tense, i.e. "I should go home" is "Je devrais aller chez
      > moi." Devrais is the first person singular conditional conjugation of 'to
      be
      > able to'. Back to my original question, do the rest of Germanic languages
      > tend towards the Romance-type or English-type?

      Lesse. Oh, complex... Okay, some basics [examples] then (this is from my
      head, *NOT* a book, so...):

      I can speak German
      Ich kann Deutsch sprechen (kann, kannst, kannt, können, könnt, können)
      "I can German to speak"

      You should learn German
      Du sollst Deutsh lernen (soll, sollst, sollt, sollen, sollt, sollen)
      "You should German to learn"

      She would like to make me learn German.
      Ihr möchtet mir Deutsch machen lernen (möchten - conditional of magen:
      möchte, möchtest, möchtet, möchten, möchtet, möchten)
      "She would-like me German to make to learn"

      That explain it? It's not like English or Romance languages. Germanic
      languages are by nature designed for "auxiliary verbs" and "prepositional
      verbs" (get up, look over, *overlook, go to & come with (both in Upper
      Midwest), &c.).

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    • Christopher Burd
      ... magen: Lernen machen sounds right to me.
      Message 2 of 2 , Mar 8, 2000
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        --- In folkspraak@onelist.com, "Jonathan North Washington" wrote:

        > She would like to make me learn German.
        > Ihr möchtet mir Deutsch machen lernen (möchten - conditional of
        magen:

        "Lernen machen" sounds right to me.

        > möchte, möchtest, möchtet, möchten, möchtet, möchten)
        > "She would-like me German to make to learn"
        >
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