Re: Have we killed Folksprak? or: Pulling a dead horse
- Well, I myself learnt Interlingua (IALA) in less than a day... but I
know quite a lot of French, reasonably understand Spanish and
Portuguese and even some Latin, so probably that doesn't really
count ;-) By the way, did you know that English is a main source
language for Interlingua, too? That's why it's so easy to learn, I'm
sure it can well be mastered in a few weeks.
Anyway, because of IALA I was inspired to develop Middelsprake, its
And my goal is not a huge vocabulary, I believe in making a word not
earlier than when I need it, based on the source languages of course,
except for a basic vocab and grammar, of course.
--- In email@example.com, "nordslesviger"
> Basic English is far from being a "perfect language". David's
> are correct. But it is properly the best language in the world, ifwe
> only measure how fast it can be learned. I'm sure that Interlinguaand
> especially Esperanto takes a lot longer time to learn.the
> But my point was not to promote Basic English. My point was, that
> FS group or at least some members of it have forgotten the primarylimited
> objective of Folkspraak and follow their own goals.
> There is nothing wrong with a huge vocabulary except that nobody can
> learn it within a month. A good "interlanguage" must to have a
> vocabulary, a simple and regular grammar and easy rules of spelling.be
> It has to be a kind of creole language.
> The FS group is free to change it's objevtives, but then it should
> an an open and explicite decision. It makes no sense if each memberof
> the group just has his own goals.
- I am afraid I don't know that site... and I couldn't find it either.
Anyway, I suppose that is not an "official" site about Folksprak, I
guess it's by one of this group's ex members.
But I consider this Yahoo group here as the only "real" site about
Folksprak, the only place with a right to use that name and where the
language should be developed, and the rest is no part of that and
should not be seen as representative for the language.
I admit it is confusing for newcomers and I think the people that
aren't part of us should give their conlangs and sites different
names than Folksprak or the like.
So if I were you, I wouldn't use this kind of sites anymore. In our
Files section you can find more useful things.
I hope I gave right info here and did not offend any of our present
members, because, as I told, I couldn't find the site that was
mentioned by Masa Saitou
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Saitou Masakazu <smasakazu@...>
> Dear Chamavian,
> Thank you for your immediate response.
> "Folksprak/Sprak/Wortscatz" is found in the top of FS-site in
> Google-Wikipedia. This is reserved in my computer in "my favourites"
> and I often make use of it.
> In it, is found a word "essere(=to be, zu sein), so may I make such
> a statement as follows?:
> - Ik esser en Japaner.(I am a Japanese.)
> But FS-grammer is likely not interested in this word.
> "Folksprak/Sprak/Grammar" is also found in the same site. The one,
> which I rely upon, is printed out by me at 15/11/2007. Yesterday I
> opened a new version, and found a little changes and additions in
> To my regret, the following statement, that the former had, isdeleted:
> - "Simplifying, you can treat all verbs as if they were weak."-me
> For me, Japanese, indeed, the three types of verbs are apt to lead
> into confusion. However, FS is constructed for the germanic peaple,that.
> so it can go on its own way. I have not right to complain about
> I am sorry to trouble you.dead horse
> Gambatte kudasai,
> Masa Saitou
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: chamavian <roerd096@...>
> To: email@example.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:50:35 AM
> Subject: [folkspraak] Re: Have we killed Folksprak? or: Pulling a
> Dear Saitou San,
> I'm sorry, but where did you find the "Folksprak/Sprak? Wortscatz"
> and "Folksprak/Sprak/ Grammer"?
> I do not know these files, I think they may be from a former member
> of this group, because he called one of his many dialects "Sprak".
> I never understood exactly how many and what dialects he used when,
> where and why, to be honest.
> In the original Middelsprake "dat" is English that, and "det" is
> English "it", the latter in order to give Scandinavian "det",
> both that and it, a place too.to
> --- In folkspraak@yahoogro ups.com, Saitou Masakazu <smasakazu@ ..>
> > Dear Chamavian,
> > Would you give me a correct answer?
> > According to "Folksprak/Sprak/ Wortscatz" , English word "that"
> > is presented as "det", and "dat" is not found. Though, according
> > "Foksprak/Sprak/ Grammer", "that" is presented as "dat" ,and "det"
> > is not found anywhere. Which is a correct word?wrote:
> > Masa SAITOU from Japan
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: chamavian <roerd096@ .>
> > To: folkspraak@yahoogro ups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:43:21 PM
> > Subject: [folkspraak] Re: Have we killed Folksprak? or: Pulling a
> dead horse
> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogro ups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@ .>
> > >anymore
> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogro ups.com, "nordslesviger"
> <nordslesviger@ >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogro ups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@>
> > > > >
> > > > > I dunno, we tried that several times before...
> > > >
> > > > Sounds very bad. What went wrong?
> > > >
> > > > > and I think there aren't that many dialects left here
> > > >that
> > > > Then somebody should clean up the files area and move all the
> > > > dialects into a dictionary that could be named "Graveyard" ;-)
> > > >
> > > > But why not use your MS og MFS as starting point?
> > So, from when will all other dialects than MS / MFS moved into
> > Graveyard? ;-)shopping
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