9757Re: My FS
- Nov 1, 2006Hi Cham,
"ig" was my first approach for "I", too, for same reasons that you
In Berlin we say "ick", too. :-)
And in German and English for instance many post-vocalic "k" became
"ch" or "j" like in EN "-ly", DE "-lich". And PG *sk often turns to EN
"sh" and DE "sch".
So this could also be FS:
"naturlich sprech ich schon folksprach"
But this would go far too deep into the German pronunciation, so I
left it like this (which looks much more neuter to me):
"naturlik sprek ik skon folksprak"
Something intermediate would seem too confusion too me.
--- In email@example.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@...> wrote:
> Sorry, I couldn't open the link, only get commercial stuff. Maybe you
> can just put it in our Files section?
> By the way, "ig" is much more representative for the major living
> Germanic languages than "ik" (or "ick", "ikk"). The first pronoun
> singular ending in final -k only exists in Dutch "ik".
> English I has no ending (or maybe a "j"?), German the soft ch [C] and
> Scandinavian a, mostly silent, -g Da "jeg", Sw "jag",
> NorwBM "jei"(NewNorw "eg").
> So if we'd take an average final sound, it would be defenitely not -k,
> but rather -g:
> English -
> German ch
> Dutch k
> Scandi g
> If we'd take more languages and count them all, the picture won't
> English - (j?)
> German ch
> Dutch(+Afr) k
> Danish g
> LowSaxon k
> Icelandic g
> Norwegian - (j?)
> Swedish g
> Frisian k
> Swytzer -
> Yiddish sh
> here we find 3 final k's and 3 final g's, 3 silent and 2 other,
> although most final g's are pronounced as if silent.
> The average sound of this can never be the hard k.
> But as most people here don't want to take too many source languages
> into account: even if one would only take English I and Dutch ik, the
> intermediate should be with final g. That's phonoLogics.
> For that alone, to me the FS pronoun first pers sing can only be "ig".
> Something else is that in Danish and Norwegian "ikke" means "not",
> which would make it confusing for Scandies if FS "ik" meant "I".
> "Ig" is immediately recognizable for everyone.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Roly Sookias/Roley Sukius"
> <xipirho@> wrote:
> > Ik witt nit ov ik hav dis forhir segd, aver ik hav en bittken info
> > an hu ik tenk FS schuld wese hir http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/
> > rsookias/myfolksprak.html . Et giv en oder two tings nu dé ik tenk
> > fremd - ik tenk "ik" iss magwes better als "ig", end "bai-said" ik
> > tenk schuld "besaid" oder "bai" wese for "bai-said" iss swer tu
> > Ok ik brauk de schraibungs "sch" end "ch" nu ...aver "sh" and "h" ar
> > OK sikker.
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