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  • John Goodsen
    I am using fitnesse heavily with a current client. They have several enhancement requests that I ll forward along to this list, as I don t have the bandwidth
    Message 1 of 14 , Mar 1, 2004
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      I am using fitnesse heavily with a current client. They have several
      enhancement requests that I'll forward along to this list, as I don't
      have the bandwidth to attempt making the changes:

      1. Recursive listing of all test pages. Something like !contents,
      but perhaps a !tests recursive=true or something. A !tests recursive=false
      could be used to just show child test pages.

      2. Some testers would like a way to save earlier runs of a test result so
      they could compare the results or archive the results for auditing purposes.

      Thanks again for such a great tool, Bob and Micah!

      --
      John Goodsen RADSoft / Better Software Faster
      jgoodsen@... Extreme Java Development & Consulting
      http://www.radsoft.com Rapid Software Delivery Specialists
    • Micah Martin
      Thanks for the suggestions John! I ve written them on cards and added them to the stack. Micah Martin Object Mentor, Inc. www.objectmentor.com
      Message 2 of 14 , Mar 2, 2004
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        Thanks for the suggestions John! I've written them on cards and added
        them to the stack.

        Micah Martin
        Object Mentor, Inc.
        www.objectmentor.com

        On Mar 1, 2004, at 10:10 PM, John Goodsen wrote:

        > I am using fitnesse heavily with a current client. They have several
        > enhancement requests that I'll forward along to this list, as I don't
        > have the bandwidth to attempt making the changes:
        >
        > 1. Recursive listing of all test pages. Something like !contents,
        > but perhaps a !tests recursive=true or something. A !tests
        > recursive=false
        > could be used to just show child test pages.
        >
        > 2. Some testers would like a way to save earlier runs of a test result
        > so
        > they could compare the results or archive the results for auditing
        > purposes.
        >
        > Thanks again for such a great tool, Bob and Micah!
        >
        > --
        > John Goodsen RADSoft / Better Software Faster
        > jgoodsen@... Extreme Java Development & Consulting
        > http://www.radsoft.com Rapid Software Delivery Specialists
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        >
        >
        >
      • James Grenning
        Hi Micah Here are a couple more for the stack from clients: - Format for print and print a series of test pages. - Print the name of every test/suite page on a
        Message 3 of 14 , Mar 2, 2004
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          Hi Micah

          Here are a couple more for the stack from clients:

          - Format for print and print a series of test pages.
          - Print the name of every test/suite page on a note card indicate if
          the test passes or not on the note card

          ------------------------
          James W Grenning
          Object Mentor, Inc.
          Gurnee, IL 60061
          www.objectmentor.com
          (847)331-9942
          ------------------------



          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: Micah Martin [mailto:micah@...]
          > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:20 AM
          > To: fitnesse@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: Re: [fitnesse] enhancement requests
          >
          > Thanks for the suggestions John! I've written them on cards and added
          > them
          > to the stack.
          >
          >
          > Micah Martin
          > Object Mentor, Inc.
          > www.objectmentor.com
          >
          > On Mar 1, 2004, at 10:10 PM, John Goodsen wrote:
          >
          >
          > > I am using fitnesse heavily with a current client. They have
          several
          > > enhancement requests that I'll forward along to this list, as I
          don't
          > > have the bandwidth to attempt making the changes:
          > >
          > > 1. Recursive listing of all test pages. Something like !contents,
          > > but perhaps a !tests recursive=true or something. A !tests
          > > recursive=false
          > > could be used to just show child test pages.
          > >
          > > 2. Some testers would like a way to save earlier runs of a test
          result
          > so
          > > they could compare the results or archive the results for auditing
          > > purposes.
          > >
          > > Thanks again for such a great tool, Bob and Micah!
          > >
          > > --
          > > John Goodsen RADSoft / Better Software Faster
          > > jgoodsen@... Extreme Java Development &
          Consulting
          > > http://www.radsoft.com Rapid Software Delivery Specialists
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > Yahoo! Groups Links
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
        • Micah Martin
          Ok thanks James. I ve added them as well. Micah Martin Object Mentor, Inc. www.objectmentor.com
          Message 4 of 14 , Mar 2, 2004
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            Ok thanks James. I've added them as well.

            Micah Martin
            Object Mentor, Inc.
            www.objectmentor.com

            On Mar 2, 2004, at 1:30 PM, James Grenning wrote:

            > Hi Micah
            >
            > Here are a couple more for the stack from clients:
            >
            > - Format for print and print a series of test pages.
            > - Print the name of every test/suite page on a note card indicate if
            > the test passes or not on the note card
            >
            > ------------------------
            > James W Grenning
            > Object Mentor, Inc.
            > Gurnee, IL 60061
            > www.objectmentor.com
            > (847)331-9942
            > ------------------------
            >
            >
            >
            >> -----Original Message-----
            >> From: Micah Martin [mailto:micah@...]
            >> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:20 AM
            >> To: fitnesse@yahoogroups.com
            >> Subject: Re: [fitnesse] enhancement requests
            >>
            >> Thanks for the suggestions John! I've written them on cards and added
            >> them
            >> to the stack.
            >>
            >>
            >> Micah Martin
            >> Object Mentor, Inc.
            >> www.objectmentor.com
            >>
            >> On Mar 1, 2004, at 10:10 PM, John Goodsen wrote:
            >>
            >>
            >>> I am using fitnesse heavily with a current client. They have
            > several
            >>> enhancement requests that I'll forward along to this list, as I
            > don't
            >>> have the bandwidth to attempt making the changes:
            >>>
            >>> 1. Recursive listing of all test pages. Something like !contents,
            >>> but perhaps a !tests recursive=true or something. A !tests
            >>> recursive=false
            >>> could be used to just show child test pages.
            >>>
            >>> 2. Some testers would like a way to save earlier runs of a test
            > result
            >> so
            >>> they could compare the results or archive the results for auditing
            >>> purposes.
            >>>
            >>> Thanks again for such a great tool, Bob and Micah!
            >>>
            >>> --
            >>> John Goodsen RADSoft / Better Software Faster
            >>> jgoodsen@... Extreme Java Development &
            > Consulting
            >>> http://www.radsoft.com Rapid Software Delivery Specialists
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Yahoo! Groups Links
            >
            >
            >
            >
          • Mark Windholtz
            ... purposes. A simple way to do this is to use the Browser and save the suite page after it has run. You lose some graphics and the links no longer work, but
            Message 5 of 14 , Mar 2, 2004
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              > 2. Some testers would like a way to save earlier runs of a test result so
              > they could compare the results or archive the results for auditing
              purposes.

              A simple way to do this is to use the Browser and save the
              suite page after it has run.

              You lose some graphics and the links no longer work,
              but since the suite page now contains all the test details
              at the bottom of the page, everything is saved.



              Regards,
              -Mark Windholtz,
              www.ObjectWind.com (513)226-8259
              Lean Software Development

              Two ways to build software:
              (1) make it so simple that there are obviously no bugs,
              (2) make it so complicated that there are no obvious bugs.
              from C.A.R. Hoare (1980 Turing Award Lecture)
            • Piergiuliano Bossi
              Isn t modifying http://fitnesse.org/FitNesseDevelopment.SuggestedStories the right way to request enhancement? Ciao, Giuliano
              Message 6 of 14 , Mar 3, 2004
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                Isn't modifying http://fitnesse.org/FitNesseDevelopment.SuggestedStories the right way to request enhancement?

                Ciao, Giuliano


                Micah Martin wrote:
                Ok thanks James. I've added them as well.

                Micah Martin
                Object Mentor, Inc.
                www.objectmentor.com

                On Mar 2, 2004, at 1:30 PM, James Grenning wrote:

                Hi Micah

                Here are a couple more for the stack from clients:

                - Format for print and print a series of test pages.
                - Print the name of every test/suite page on a note card indicate if
                the test passes or not on the note card

                ------------------------
                James W Grenning
                Object Mentor, Inc.
                Gurnee, IL 60061
                www.objectmentor.com
                (847)331-9942
                ------------------------



                -----Original Message-----
                From: Micah Martin [mailto:micah@...]
                Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:20 AM
                To: fitnesse@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [fitnesse] enhancement requests

                Thanks for the suggestions John! I've written them on cards and added
                them
                to the stack.


                Micah Martin
                Object Mentor, Inc.
                www.objectmentor.com

                On Mar 1, 2004, at 10:10 PM, John Goodsen wrote:


                I am using fitnesse heavily with a current client. They have
                several
                enhancement requests that I'll forward along to this list, as I
                don't
                have the bandwidth to attempt making the changes:

                1. Recursive listing of all test pages. Something like !contents,
                but perhaps a !tests recursive=true or something. A !tests
                recursive=false
                could be used to just show child test pages.

                2. Some testers would like a way to save earlier runs of a test
                result
                so
                they could compare the results or archive the results for auditing
                purposes.

                Thanks again for such a great tool, Bob and Micah!

                --
                John Goodsen RADSoft / Better Software Faster
                jgoodsen@... Extreme Java Development &
                Consulting
                http://www.radsoft.com Rapid Software Delivery Specialists




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              • Micah Martin
                We ll accept suggestions from all sources. Micah Martin Object Mentor, Inc. www.objectmentor.com
                Message 7 of 14 , Mar 3, 2004
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                  We'll accept suggestions from all sources.

                  Micah Martin
                  Object Mentor, Inc.
                  www.objectmentor.com

                  On Mar 3, 2004, at 3:10 AM, Piergiuliano Bossi wrote:

                  > Isn't modifying
                  > http://fitnesse.org/FitNesseDevelopment.SuggestedStories the right way
                  > to request enhancement?
                  >
                  > Ciao, Giuliano
                  >
                  >
                  > Micah Martin wrote:
                  >
                  > Ok thanks James. I've added them as well.
                  >
                  > Micah Martin
                  > Object Mentor, Inc.
                  > www.objectmentor.com
                  >
                  > On Mar 2, 2004, at 1:30 PM, James Grenning wrote:
                  >
                  >
                  > Hi Micah
                  >
                  > Here are a couple more for the stack from clients:
                  >
                  > - Format for print and print a series of test pages.
                  > - Print the name of every test/suite page on a note card indicate if
                  > the test passes or not on the note card
                  >
                  > ------------------------
                  > James W Grenning
                  > Object Mentor, Inc.
                  > Gurnee, IL 60061
                  > www.objectmentor.com
                  > (847)331-9942
                  > ------------------------
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: Micah Martin [mailto:micah@...]
                  > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:20 AM
                  > To: fitnesse@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: Re: [fitnesse] enhancement requests
                  >
                  > Thanks for the suggestions John! I've written them on cards and added
                  > them
                  > to the stack.
                  >
                  >
                  > Micah Martin
                  > Object Mentor, Inc.
                  > www.objectmentor.com
                  >
                  > On Mar 1, 2004, at 10:10 PM, John Goodsen wrote:
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > I am using fitnesse heavily with a current client. They have
                  >
                  > several
                  >
                  > enhancement requests that I'll forward along to this list, as I
                  >
                  > don't
                  >
                  > have the bandwidth to attempt making the changes:
                  >
                  > 1. Recursive listing of all test pages. Something like !contents,
                  > but perhaps a !tests recursive=true or something. A !tests
                  > recursive=false
                  > could be used to just show child test pages.
                  >
                  > 2. Some testers would like a way to save earlier runs of a test
                  >
                  > result
                  >
                  > so
                  >
                  > they could compare the results or archive the results for auditing
                  > purposes.
                  >
                  > Thanks again for such a great tool, Bob and Micah!
                  >
                  > --
                  > John Goodsen RADSoft / Better Software Faster
                  > jgoodsen@... Extreme Java Development &
                  >
                  > Consulting
                  >
                  > http://www.radsoft.com Rapid Software Delivery Specialists
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Yahoo! Groups Links
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Yahoo! Groups Links
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                  >
                  > • To visit your group on the web, go to:
                  > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fitnesse/
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                • Piergiuliano Bossi
                  ... Ok, this is clear, but the question in reality is: where do you mantain the current list of feature requests? Which are current priorities? Thanks,
                  Message 8 of 14 , Mar 3, 2004
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                    Micah Martin wrote:

                    > We'll accept suggestions from all sources.


                    :-)

                    Ok, this is clear, but the question in reality is: where do you mantain
                    the current list of feature requests?
                    Which are current priorities?

                    Thanks, Giuliano
                  • Micah Martin
                    We keep a stack of stories here in our office and we decide on priorities at the beginning of each iteration. Micah Martin Object Mentor, Inc.
                    Message 9 of 14 , Mar 3, 2004
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                      We keep a stack of stories here in our office and we decide on
                      priorities at the beginning of each iteration.

                      Micah Martin
                      Object Mentor, Inc.
                      www.objectmentor.com

                      On Mar 3, 2004, at 9:30 AM, Piergiuliano Bossi wrote:

                      > Micah Martin wrote:
                      >
                      >> We'll accept suggestions from all sources.
                      >
                      >
                      > :-)
                      >
                      > Ok, this is clear, but the question in reality is: where do you mantain
                      > the current list of feature requests?
                      > Which are current priorities?
                      >
                      > Thanks, Giuliano
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Yahoo! Groups Links
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
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                    • Piergiuliano Bossi
                      ... Is there any possibility to have an influence on priorities and/or to give a helping hand? Ciao, Giuliano
                      Message 10 of 14 , Mar 3, 2004
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                        Micah Martin wrote:

                        > We keep a stack of stories here in our office and we decide on
                        > priorities at the beginning of each iteration.


                        Is there any possibility to have an influence on priorities and/or to
                        give a helping hand?

                        Ciao, Giuliano
                      • David Corbin
                        It would be nice if... 1) !define echoed the variable definition like the !path does. 2) when clicking Edit in a Virtual Wiki, it would: a) use the same
                        Message 11 of 14 , Mar 3, 2004
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                          It would be nice if...
                          1) !define echoed the variable definition like the !path does.
                          2) when clicking Edit in a Virtual Wiki, it would:
                          a) use the same browser
                          b) When I save the changes, return me to my original page on the
                          original server. (Seems like should be doable without too much rigamarole).

                          c) As an alternative, but less desirable
                          on Mozilla, open a new tab (maybe) (I know - not portable)

                          3) Enable style sheets on a per-server basis, so I can associate a
                          color with a particular server. As things stand now, white is used
                          sometimes for my local box, and sometimes for my central box (depending
                          on how it was accessed)

                          Thnaks
                        • Micah Martin
                          These are all great suggestions. They are all on the story stack now. Micah Martin Object Mentor, Inc. www.objectmentor.com
                          Message 12 of 14 , Mar 3, 2004
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                            These are all great suggestions. They are all on the story stack now.

                            Micah Martin
                            Object Mentor, Inc.
                            www.objectmentor.com

                            On Mar 3, 2004, at 11:15 AM, David Corbin wrote:

                            > It would be nice if...
                            > 1) !define echoed the variable definition like the !path does.
                            > 2) when clicking Edit in a Virtual Wiki, it would:
                            > a) use the same browser
                            > b) When I save the changes, return me to my original page on the
                            > original server. (Seems like should be doable without too much
                            > rigamarole).
                            >
                            > c) As an alternative, but less desirable
                            > on Mozilla, open a new tab (maybe) (I know - not portable)
                            >
                            > 3) Enable style sheets on a per-server basis, so I can associate a
                            > color with a particular server. As things stand now, white is used
                            > sometimes for my local box, and sometimes for my central box (depending
                            > on how it was accessed)
                            >
                            > Thnaks
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Yahoo! Groups Links
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                          • Micah Martin
                            Certainly. What did you have in mind? Micah Martin Object Mentor, Inc. www.objectmentor.com
                            Message 13 of 14 , Mar 3, 2004
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                              Certainly. What did you have in mind?

                              Micah Martin
                              Object Mentor, Inc.
                              www.objectmentor.com

                              On Mar 3, 2004, at 11:11 AM, Piergiuliano Bossi wrote:

                              > Micah Martin wrote:
                              >
                              >> We keep a stack of stories here in our office and we decide on
                              >> priorities at the beginning of each iteration.
                              >
                              >
                              > Is there any possibility to have an influence on priorities and/or to
                              > give a helping hand?
                              >
                              > Ciao, Giuliano
                              >
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                            • Piergiuliano Bossi
                              ... Nothing in particular, but we have used fitnesse in a couple of projects and we are deciding to use it more and more, therefore I d like to have some
                              Message 14 of 14 , Mar 4, 2004
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                                Micah Martin wrote:
                                Certainly. What did you have in mind?

                                Nothing in particular, but we have used fitnesse in a couple of projects and we are deciding to use it more and more, therefore I'd like to have some visibility over priorities. In the past I have added a few things over http://www.fitnesse.org/FitNesseDevelopment.SuggestedStories, for example:

                                    It would be nice to have a special version of !contents that is able to list all pages in wiki (see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fitnesse/message/624)

                                This looks a lot like what was asking John Goodsen a few days ago.

                                I also wonder whether you would like to accept some help in a pure open source spirit of collaboration.

                                Ciao, Giuliano


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