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Re: [fhctech] Odd TempleReady problem

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  • Gary Templeman
    OK, so it does appear to be some kind of permissions issue, because I can now get it to work if I make the Patron user an administrator. However, I uninstalled
    Message 1 of 11 , Nov 6, 2005
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      OK, so it does appear to be some kind of permissions issue, because I can
      now get it to work if I make the Patron user an administrator.

      However, I uninstalled PAF and TRW, deleted the residual folders under
      Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application
      Data\FamilySearch for all users. I deleted the leftover registry entries
      both under local machine and the various current user keys, and then
      reinstalled the programs. I then went to the folders that were regenerated
      and gave everyone full access to it and child objects, and used regedt32 on
      the registry entries to allow full permissions to everyone and it STILL
      needs admin privileges.

      There has to be another file or registry entry that is screwed up somewhere.
      I REALLY do not want to restore the original image and have to re-install
      all the additional software.

      Gary
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      From: "RussellHltn" <RussellHltn@...>
      To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 1:05 AM
      Subject: Re: [fhctech] Odd TempleReady problem


      >I poked around a bit in our TempleReady system. I'd changed things enough
      >on the shipped HP that I can't reference that anymore. A check of the
      >operation on our other computers shows that it's going to the A drive (but
      >then the options are set that way, no surprise there.) But it does give me
      >all the file type to look for.
      >
      > I did find that TempleReady has some files stored under
      > C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\FamilySearch.
      > Perhaps it's one of those files messing you up during the re-install.
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    • Jonathan Studer
      Just a suggestion, but maybe try to give the Patron account Admin Access. Do the install under that account, then remove the administrator priviliages. This
      Message 2 of 11 , Nov 7, 2005
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        Just a suggestion, but maybe try to give the Patron account Admin Access. Do the install under that account, then remove the administrator priviliages.
        This 'should' give the patron account access as the 'creator/owner' of the folders.
         
        Not sure this will work, but thought I'd throw the suggestion your way.
         
        -JS


        -Jon

        Stake Computer Specialist
        Carlsbad, CA FHC


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      • RussellHltn
        That s one way of doing it. I haven t had a chance to look in my notes if I had to do anything special, but I thought there might have been one bit of
        Message 3 of 11 , Nov 7, 2005
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          That's one way of doing it. I haven't had a chance to look in my notes if I had to do anything special, but I thought there might have been one bit of software that didn't like being installed as "admin" and then running as another user. Some programmers just don't "get it" when it comes to multi-user situations.

          I did see that TRW is accessing C:\Program Files\Common Files\Family Search, and looking at dlls PAF, PAF5 and FSGEDCOM. I suspect if it's not able to find those DLLs, it won't support those file formats. It only needs read/execute access, but it does need to find them.


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          From: Jonathan Studer <jonokinawa@...>
          Date: Mon Nov 07 13:49:36 CST 2005
          To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [fhctech] Odd TempleReady problem

          Just a suggestion, but maybe try to give the Patron account Admin Access. Do the install under that account, then remove the administrator priviliages.This 'should' give the patron account access as the 'creator/owner' of the folders.?Not sure this will work, but thought I'd throw the suggestion your way.?-JS

          -Jon

          Stake Computer Specialist
          Carlsbad, CA FHC
        • Donsescape
          Here is what I have for security settings for TempleReady. The box is checked for allow inheritable permissions. Interestingly enough all boxes are checked for
          Message 4 of 11 , Nov 9, 2005
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            Here is what I have for security settings for TempleReady.

            The box is checked for allow inheritable permissions.
            Interestingly enough all boxes are checked for allow for full control
            etc. However, in control panel, users/passwords, user properties is
            set for restricted use. This seems a little contradictory. But it
            works. I cannot install a program as a user. It tells me I'm not
            allowed. Many of the options to modify the program configurations
            are greyed out so they cannot be changed. I have to log on as
            administrator to make changes, install or update programs. Hope this
            helps.


            --- In fhctech@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Templeman" <gtempleman1@c...>
            wrote:
            >
            > OK, so it does appear to be some kind of permissions issue, because
            I can
            > now get it to work if I make the Patron user an administrator.
            >
            > However, I uninstalled PAF and TRW, deleted the residual folders
            under
            > Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application
            > Data\FamilySearch for all users. I deleted the leftover registry
            entries
            > both under local machine and the various current user keys, and
            then
            > reinstalled the programs. I then went to the folders that were
            regenerated
            > and gave everyone full access to it and child objects, and used
            regedt32 on
            > the registry entries to allow full permissions to everyone and it
            STILL
            > needs admin privileges.
            >
            > There has to be another file or registry entry that is screwed up
            somewhere.
            > I REALLY do not want to restore the original image and have to re-
            install
            > all the additional software.
            >
            > Gary
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: "RussellHltn" <RussellHltn@v...>
            > To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 1:05 AM
            > Subject: Re: [fhctech] Odd TempleReady problem
            >
            >
            > >I poked around a bit in our TempleReady system. I'd changed
            things enough
            > >on the shipped HP that I can't reference that anymore. A check of
            the
            > >operation on our other computers shows that it's going to the A
            drive (but
            > >then the options are set that way, no surprise there.) But it does
            give me
            > >all the file type to look for.
            > >
            > > I did find that TempleReady has some files stored under
            > > C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application
            Data\FamilySearch.
            > > Perhaps it's one of those files messing you up during the re-
            install.
            > >
            > >
            > >
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          • Gary Templeman
            Well, that is our setting too. After spending time with a person at FHC Support, they are sending me teh image disk and I will start over. gary ... From:
            Message 5 of 11 , Nov 9, 2005
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              Well, that is our setting too. After spending time with a person at FHC
              Support, they are sending me teh image disk and I will start over.

              gary

              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "Donsescape" <mount_idee@...>
              To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:19 PM
              Subject: [fhctech] Re: Odd TempleReady problem


              > Here is what I have for security settings for TempleReady.
              >
              > The box is checked for allow inheritable permissions.
              > Interestingly enough all boxes are checked for allow for full control
              > etc. However, in control panel, users/passwords, user properties is
              > set for restricted use. This seems a little contradictory. But it
              > works. I cannot install a program as a user. It tells me I'm not
              > allowed. Many of the options to modify the program configurations
              > are greyed out so they cannot be changed. I have to log on as
              > administrator to make changes, install or update programs. Hope this
              > helps.
              >
              >
              > --- In fhctech@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Templeman" <gtempleman1@c...>
              > wrote:
              >>
              >> OK, so it does appear to be some kind of permissions issue, because
              > I can
              >> now get it to work if I make the Patron user an administrator.
              >>
              >> However, I uninstalled PAF and TRW, deleted the residual folders
              > under
              >> Program Files and C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application
              >> Data\FamilySearch for all users. I deleted the leftover registry
              > entries
              >> both under local machine and the various current user keys, and
              > then
              >> reinstalled the programs. I then went to the folders that were
              > regenerated
              >> and gave everyone full access to it and child objects, and used
              > regedt32 on
              >> the registry entries to allow full permissions to everyone and it
              > STILL
              >> needs admin privileges.
              >>
              >> There has to be another file or registry entry that is screwed up
              > somewhere.
              >> I REALLY do not want to restore the original image and have to re-
              > install
              >> all the additional software.
              >>
              >> Gary
              >> ----- Original Message -----
              >> From: "RussellHltn" <RussellHltn@v...>
              >> To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
              >> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 1:05 AM
              >> Subject: Re: [fhctech] Odd TempleReady problem
              >>
              >>
              >> >I poked around a bit in our TempleReady system. I'd changed
              > things enough
              >> >on the shipped HP that I can't reference that anymore. A check of
              > the
              >> >operation on our other computers shows that it's going to the A
              > drive (but
              >> >then the options are set that way, no surprise there.) But it does
              > give me
              >> >all the file type to look for.
              >> >
              >> > I did find that TempleReady has some files stored under
              >> > C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application
              > Data\FamilySearch.
              >> > Perhaps it's one of those files messing you up during the re-
              > install.
              >> >
              >> >
              >> >
              >> > Home Page: http://fhctech.org/
              >> > Community email addresses:
              >> > Post message: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
              >> > Subscribe: fhctech-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
              >> > Unsubscribe: fhctech-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
              >> > List owner: Rick@K...
              >> > Shortcut URL to Yahoo! group page:
              >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fhctech
              >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >> >
              >> >
              >> >
              >> >
              >> >
              >> >
              >>
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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            • RussellHltn
              ... Interestingly enough all boxes are checked for allow for full control etc.
              Message 6 of 11 , Nov 10, 2005
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                >>> The box is checked for allow inheritable permissions.
                Interestingly enough all boxes are checked for allow for full control
                etc. <<<

                That's right. I forgot that out of the box Win2000 grants everyone full
                rights on the root of C. As a result, there's a lack of security on files.
                I tend to reset the security to XP style so it's far more restrictive.

                If file rights are not an issue, then it's probably rights to the registry.
                The registry works much like the file system. Permissions can be edited by
                using Regedt32. The regular Regedit can't do that.

                Sorry Gary. I've look though my notes and I don't see that I've done
                anything special for TRW.
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