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  • Ronald Frye
    We use IconLock (a free program) at the Danville Family History Center. This prevents patrons from changing anything associated with the desktop. Works just
    Message 1 of 6 , Aug 8, 2003
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      We use IconLock (a free program) at the Danville Family History Center. This
      prevents patrons from changing anything associated with the desktop. Works
      just great, and we haven't had a problem with desktop issues since its
      installation.

      As an aside to this, we know for a fact that whenever we've had problems,
      not only with this issue, but with other more serious issues, the problem
      has ALWAYS come from the Mormons, NEVER from any of the non-members. Isn't
      that a sad commentary on our people?

      Sincerely,

      Ronald W. Frye
      Danville Family History Center Computer Specialist

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Gary Templeman" <gtempleman1@...>
      To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:50 AM
      Subject: [fhctech] Deep Freeze or equiv.


      > Some time in the past there was a discussion on this or the FHCNET list
      > about using software such as Deep Freeze or Clean Slate to prevent
      > unauthorized changes to FHC computers. Is anyone using such a system, and
      > how is it working out?
      >
      > Gary Templeman
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    • Gary Templeman
      I already use IconLock, and when combined with limited user privileges in Win2K it does a pretty good job. By itself it does not preclude unauthorized
      Message 2 of 6 , Aug 8, 2003
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        I already use IconLock, and when combined with limited user privileges in
        Win2K it does a pretty good job. By itself it does not preclude
        unauthorized installation of software or other changes on the Win 9x
        machines. Even the restricted user in Win 2K can use Windows Explorer and
        move or delete files. Of course, there are additional measures that one can
        take to lock down the computer even more. The supposed advantages of
        programs such as Deep Freeze is that the user basically operates in a
        virtual environment so any changes disappear at the next boot. In essence
        it is a one-stop solution. It seems like that would also discourage, but
        not prevent, things like patrons adding their own POP3 accounts to OE. The
        frustration of having to re-do the process every time should be enough.

        However, the program *could* also be a major aggravation to the
        administrator, particularly those situations where someone moves and forgets
        to give the password to the new admin person.

        Gary Templeman

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Ronald Frye" <ronfrye@...>
        To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:05 PM
        Subject: Re: [fhctech] Deep Freeze or equiv.


        > We use IconLock (a free program) at the Danville Family History Center.
        This
        > prevents patrons from changing anything associated with the desktop. Works
        > just great, and we haven't had a problem with desktop issues since its
        > installation.
        >
        > As an aside to this, we know for a fact that whenever we've had problems,
        > not only with this issue, but with other more serious issues, the problem
        > has ALWAYS come from the Mormons, NEVER from any of the non-members. Isn't
        > that a sad commentary on our people?
        >
        > Sincerely,
        >
        > Ronald W. Frye
        > Danville Family History Center Computer Specialist
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "Gary Templeman" <gtempleman1@...>
        > To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:50 AM
        > Subject: [fhctech] Deep Freeze or equiv.
        >
        >
        > > Some time in the past there was a discussion on this or the FHCNET list
        > > about using software such as Deep Freeze or Clean Slate to prevent
        > > unauthorized changes to FHC computers. Is anyone using such a system,
        and
        > > how is it working out?
        > >
        > > Gary Templeman
        > >
        > >
        > >
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      • Snow, Donald R.
        We use Deep Freeze on all our computers at the St. George Regional FHC and it really saves us lots of grief. We have 25 computers networked to a server and
        Message 3 of 6 , Aug 9, 2003
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          We use Deep Freeze on all our computers at the St. George Regional FHC and
          it really saves us lots of grief. We have 25 computers networked to a
          server and every time we reboot them they come back up exactly like they
          are set, except for the Thawspace folder where we have PAF set to store
          data. Any time one has a problem we just reboot it and it's back to the
          way it should be.

          Don Snow

          At 09:50 AM 8/8/2003, Gary Templeman wrote:
          >Some time in the past there was a discussion on this or the FHCNET list
          >about using software such as Deep Freeze or Clean Slate to prevent
          >unauthorized changes to FHC computers. Is anyone using such a system, and
          >how is it working out?
          >
          >Gary Templeman
          >
          >
          >
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          Dr. Donald R. Snow, Dept of Mathematics, Brigham Young University, Provo,
          Utah 84602 (office phone (801) 422-2366, home phone in Provo (801)
          225-7123), snowd@..., drs31@... -- temporarily on a Family
          History Mission at St. George Regional Family History Center, St. George,
          Utah (home phone in St. George (435) 673-1932)
        • Russell Houlton
          ... move or delete files.
          Message 4 of 6 , Aug 9, 2003
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            >> Even the restricted user in Win 2K can use Windows Explorer and
            move or delete files. <<<

            If the hard drive is formatted NTFS you can add more restrictions. I'd be
            tempted to give users only execute rights to the files and just enough to
            allow the software to run.
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