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  • Bill Houghton
    How do you set up TempleReady Version 2 so that it will not print more lines than a page will hold? We use Epson LQ 870 tractor feed printers and when printing
    Message 1 of 12 , Oct 21, 2002
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      How do you set up TempleReady Version 2 so that it will not print more lines
      than a page will hold? We use Epson LQ 870 tractor feed printers and when
      printing out a report from TR2 it always prints one too many lines before paging
      and thus wasting a page of paper. The correct printer is set up in Win 95/98,
      but I can not find any way to change the number of lines to a page that is
      printed. All other programs print correctly.

      Any ideas, or do we have to live with it?

      Bill Houghton
      Lompoc Ca Stake Computer Specialist
    • Larry Lords
      TRW does not control the number of lines per page. All printing functions are controlled via Internet Explorer (IE). You might try loading IE and change the
      Message 2 of 12 , Oct 21, 2002
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        TRW does not control the number of lines per page.  All printing functions are controlled via Internet Explorer (IE).  You might try loading IE and change the top and bottom margin settings in Printer Setup.
         
        You said that all other programs print correctly, but I am guessing that if you printed a Web page you would have the same problem.
         
        Good Luck!


        >>> houghton@... 10/21/02 11:36AM >>>
        How do you set up TempleReady Version 2 so that it will not print more lines
        than a page will hold? We use Epson LQ 870 tractor feed printers and when
        printing out a report from TR2 it always prints one too many lines before paging
        and thus wasting a page of paper. The correct printer is set up in Win 95/98,
        but I can not find any way to change the number of lines to a page that is
        printed. All other programs print correctly.

        Any ideas, or do we have to live with it?

        Bill Houghton
        Lompoc Ca Stake Computer Specialist




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      • Russell Houlton
        As I recall that printer can be set to one of several modes . Perhaps it s not in the right mode so the font or spacing isn t being set right. Normally a
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          As I recall that printer can be set to one of several "modes". Perhaps it's
          not in the right "mode" so the font or spacing isn't being set right.
          Normally a Windows driver will "take over" the default settings, but perhaps
          you've got something set on the printer that it's not correcting.

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          How do you set up TempleReady Version 2 so that it will not print more lines
          than a page will hold? We use Epson LQ 870 tractor feed printers and when
          printing out a report from TR2 it always prints one too many lines before
          paging
          and thus wasting a page of paper. The correct printer is set up in Win
          95/98,
          but I can not find any way to change the number of lines to a page that is
          printed. All other programs print correctly.

          Any ideas, or do we have to live with it?

          Bill Houghton
          Lompoc Ca Stake Computer Specialist
        • Bill Houghton
          Thanks for thr quick response last night. I tried (this morning) changing the margins in IE with no change in the printing from TR2. In TR2 you can also change
          Message 4 of 12 , Oct 22, 2002
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            Thanks for thr quick response last night. I tried (this morning) changing the margins in IE with no change in the printing from TR2. In TR2 you can also change the margin by going to File, Page Setup, but that did not change the print margins, either.

            I'm stumped.

            Bill Houghton

            Larry Lords wrote:

             TRW does not control the number of lines per page.  All printing functions are controlled via Internet Explorer (IE).  You might try loading IE and change the top and bottom margin settings in Printer Setup. You said that all other programs print correctly, but I am guessing that if you printed a Web page you would have the same problem. Good Luck! 

            >>> houghton@... 10/21/02 11:36AM >>>
            How do you set up TempleReady Version 2 so that it will not print more lines
            than a page will hold? We use Epson LQ 870 tractor feed printers and when
            printing out a report from TR2 it always prints one too many lines before paging
            and thus wasting a page of paper. The correct printer is set up in Win 95/98,
            but I can not find any way to change the number of lines to a page that is
            printed. All other programs print correctly.

            Any ideas, or do we have to live with it?

            Bill Houghton
            Lompoc Ca Stake Computer Specialist
             
             
             

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          • gtempleman1@attbi.com
            The FAQ s found at http://files.support.epson.com/txt/lq870_/lq870_f1.txt list a few things you might check. Check the microfeed adjustment to see if it might
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              The FAQ's found at
              http://files.support.epson.com/txt/lq870_/lq870_f1.txt
              list a few things you might check. Check the microfeed
              adjustment to see if it might be starting the first page
              too low and consequently throwing one line to a second
              page.

              Also, at http://support.epson.com/webadvice/wa0014.html
              is a troubleshooting answer for printing two pages for
              one. It reads, "If you're using single sheets you need
              to make sure the software is set up for either single
              sheet paper or 61 lines per page otherwise it will print
              a few lines on a second page if the document is over 61
              lines. Some older DOS software may not have those
              settings if it is designed to be used only with tractor
              feed paper. For Windows software, make sure to select
              Sheet Feeder bin 1 for your paper source in Printer
              setup."

              I have added some of the FAQ answers below. Hope this
              helps.

              Gary Templeman

              P.S. Tractor feed dot-matrix printers are generally
              pretty loud. I believe each center is allowed at least
              one laser printer that your stake computer specialist
              should be able to get from SL.


              Q: When printing a multiple page document on single
              sheets, the
              first page prints correctly, but the pages after start
              printing too
              low.

              A: The difference in print position is usually caused by
              the page
              length setting in the software application program. Most
              applications have a default page length of 66 lines per
              page when
              using 11" continuous paper. When using single sheets,
              the printer
              automatically provides a small top and bottom margin.
              Since the top
              and bottom margins are non-printable areas, the maximum
              number of
              lines per page is reduced from 66 to 61 lines per page.
              Many
              applications have an option to change the number of
              lines per page.
              You should change the number of lines per page to 61.
              If the
              program offers a selection for "cut-sheet feeder,"
              change the paper
              type to cut-sheet feeder.

              Q: What is micro-adjustment used for?

              A: The micro-adjustment feature allows you to make fine
              top-of-form
              adjustments and short form tear-off position adjustments
              in
              increments of 1/180th of an inch. The printer remembers
              adjustments
              made to continuous paper, even after the printer is
              turned off. When
              micro-adjust reaches the minimum or maximum adjustment
              point, the
              printer will begin to beep continuously.


              Q: The printer starts printing too far down the page.
              Is there any
              way I can adjust the starting point of the print job?

              A: There is a feature called Microfeed that allows you
              to adjust the
              top-of-form (TOF) position in increments of 1/180th of
              an inch. To
              use this feature, load the paper into the printer. Hold
              down the
              ALT and the LF/FF buttons to Microfeed the paper
              backward or the ALT
              and the LOAD/EJECT buttons to Microfeed the paper
              forward. Once you
              have the TOF position set where you want it, send a
              print job. The
              printer will remember the TOF setting and will position
              the print
              head accordingly for the next page. For more
              information on
              adjusting the page setting, please see your User's
              Manual.

              > Thanks for thr quick response last night. I tried (this morning)
              > changing the margins in IE with no change in the printing from TR2. In
              > TR2 you can also change the margin by going to File, Page Setup, but
              > that did not change the print margins, either.
              >
              > I'm stumped.
              >
              > Bill Houghton
              >
              > Larry Lords wrote:
              >
              > > TRW does not control the number of lines per page. All printing
              > > functions are controlled via Internet Explorer (IE). You might try
              > > loading IE and change the top and bottom margin settings in Printer
              > > Setup. You said that all other programs print correctly, but I am
              > > guessing that if you printed a Web page you would have the same
              > > problem. Good Luck!
              > >
              > > >>> houghton@... 10/21/02 11:36AM >>>
              > > How do you set up TempleReady Version 2 so that it will not print more
              > > lines
              > > than a page will hold? We use Epson LQ 870 tractor feed printers and
              > > when
              > > printing out a report from TR2 it always prints one too many lines
              > > before paging
              > > and thus wasting a page of paper. The correct printer is set up in Win
              > > 95/98,
              > > but I can not find any way to change the number of lines to a page
              > > that is
              > > printed. All other programs print correctly.
              > >
              > > Any ideas, or do we have to live with it?
              > >
              > > Bill Houghton
              > > Lompoc Ca Stake Computer Specialist
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            • vash
              Lookout for the newbie... that s me! I ve been assigned to keep the computers up and running in our FHC here in Westchester NY. After reading over the
              Message 6 of 12 , Oct 22, 2002
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                Lookout for the newbie... that's me!
                I've been assigned to keep the computers up and running in our FHC here
                in Westchester NY. After reading over the extremely thorough web page
                I've got a couple of questions.

                I want to set up 1 machine to act as a server. It will have win2k on
                it. There will be 3 clients to the server running win2k and win98.

                I was reading about assigning drive names to the folders of data at
                http://www.fhctech.org/applications/fsconfig.htm , and came across the
                warning and script:

                -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


                Before FS can be tested the logical drives N-T must be associated with
                data sources. Local drives are substituted via the DOS Subst command
                shown in the substdrive.bat batch file below.

                Note: Windows Me, 2K, and XP do not process substitute commands in the
                autoexec.bat file. They can be grouped in a batch file and executed
                from the Programs > StartUp folder. The vSubst utility program can also
                substitute drives on Me, 2K, and XP however it should only be used for
                local folders.

                ::******************** file: substdrive.bat *******************


                :: v. 4/2001
                :: This bat file connects local drive data using the DOS Subst
                :: command. It can be configured to execute by clicking the FS shortcut
                :: on the patron desktop.

                :: Variables
                :: <local drive path> is the path to disk data, e.g. D:\fsdata
                :: Drives N: through T: are associated with local drive folders
                :: C:\PAS is the path to the PAS directory on the client

                @echo off

                :: local drive substitutions

                subst n: <local drive path>\af
                subst o: <local drive path>\lc
                subst p: <local drive path>\igi
                subst q: <local drive path>\ad
                subst r: <local drive path>\scr
                subst s: <local drive path>\ss
                subst t: <local drive path>\mi

                ::execute PAS

                C:\PAS\PAS.EXE

                :: *********************** end *********************

                here's where the dummy part kicks in... am I setting up this script on
                the Server? or the Clients? or both?
                and more importantly... should I NOT put in Win2K? That's the way
                they're coming from Dell... but I'm assuming they'd let me change if I
                wanted to.

                There just seems to be a lot of win2k "notes" on the fhctech.org
                website.... I'm almost tempted to have my server be running redhat and
                have clients that are XP.
                It seems as if a lot of the DOS command stuff doesn't work in 2K? Yes?
                (I'm not a microsoft OS user by trade.)

                Any pointers would gladly be appreciated.

                It seems like you need to be very careful _how_ you install these many
                CDs onto the harddrive. Not always just a simple drag and drop it
                seems. (told you I was a greenie)

                Regards,
                Jeff Hedberg
              • Russell Houlton
                ... the Server? or the Clients? or both?
                Message 7 of 12 , Oct 23, 2002
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                  >>> here's where the dummy part kicks in... am I setting up this script on
                  the Server? or the Clients? or both? <<<

                  Server.

                  >>> and more importantly... should I NOT put in Win2K? <<<

                  I usually use Win2000 Server for servers, but I'd expect Win2000
                  Professional would work fine - once you get it all setup.

                  >>> There just seems to be a lot of win2k "notes" on the fhctech.org
                  website.... I'm almost tempted to have my server be running redhat and
                  have clients that are XP. <<<


                  Word of advice: stick with what others are doing. If you strike out on your
                  own, you'll end up finishing on your own. If you stay with the pack you can
                  get help and ideas from others.


                  >>> It seems as if a lot of the DOS command stuff doesn't work in 2K? Yes?
                  <<<

                  Maybe. But I still do quite a bit of DOS stuff in Win2k.
                • Centric - Dennis Stewart
                  In our center we have a W2K Server and five W2K Prof clients. We run the DOS batch routine at startup on all client PCs. We also perform mapping using the
                  Message 8 of 12 , Oct 23, 2002
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                    In our center we have a W2K Server and five W2K Prof clients. We run the DOS batch routine at startup on all client PCs. We also perform mapping using the Windows Map Drive feature in Windows Explorer because we have several other applications that also require mapped drives on the server. It is important that you not map the same drive twice on the client PC's so make sure that the two drive mapping methods are consistent with each other.
                     
                    By running the batch file at startup we just leave the drives all mapped when the PC is in operation and then run FS as needed by the patron. So our barch file does not include the line to run PAS.exe.
                     
                    It doesn't talk about it in the section you copied but if you are going to use a networked printer for your FS application you will also have to map the printer in the DOS batch file that maps the drives. If you need to map a printer and can't find anything on this topic let me know and I will send you a copy of our batch file.
                     
                    Dennis Stewart
                    Meridian East Stake FHC
                    dstewart@...
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                    From: vash [mailto:vash@...]
                    Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:30 PM
                    To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [fhctech] newbie alert

                    Lookout for the newbie... that's me!
                    I've been assigned to keep the computers up and running in our FHC here
                    in Westchester NY.  After reading over the extremely thorough web page
                    I've got a couple of questions.

                    I want to set up 1 machine to act as a server. It will have win2k on
                    it. There will be 3 clients to the server running win2k and win98.

                    I was reading about assigning drive names to the folders of data at
                    http://www.fhctech.org/applications/fsconfig.htm , and came across the
                    warning and script:

                    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


                    Before FS can be tested the logical drives N-T must be associated with
                    data sources. Local drives are substituted via the DOS Subst command
                    shown in the substdrive.bat batch file below.

                    Note: Windows Me, 2K, and XP do not process substitute commands in the
                    autoexec.bat file. They can be grouped in a batch file and executed
                    from the Programs > StartUp folder. The vSubst utility program can also
                    substitute drives on Me, 2K, and XP however it should only be used for
                    local folders.

                    ::******************** file: substdrive.bat *******************


                    :: v. 4/2001
                    :: This bat file connects local drive data using the DOS Subst
                    :: command. It can be configured to execute by clicking the FS shortcut
                    :: on the patron desktop.

                    :: Variables
                    :: <local drive path> is the path to disk data, e.g. D:\fsdata
                    :: Drives N: through T: are associated with local drive folders
                    :: C:\PAS is the path to the PAS directory on the client

                    @echo off

                    :: local drive substitutions

                    subst n: <local drive path>\af
                    subst o: <local drive path>\lc
                    subst p: <local drive path>\igi
                    subst q: <local drive path>\ad
                    subst r: <local drive path>\scr
                    subst s: <local drive path>\ss
                    subst t: <local drive path>\mi

                    ::execute PAS

                    C:\PAS\PAS.EXE

                    :: *********************** end *********************

                    here's where the dummy part kicks in... am I setting up this script on
                    the Server? or the Clients? or both?
                    and more importantly... should I NOT put in Win2K? That's the way
                    they're coming from Dell... but I'm assuming they'd let me change if I
                    wanted to.

                    There just seems to be a lot of win2k "notes" on the fhctech.org
                    website.... I'm almost tempted to have my server be running redhat and
                    have clients that are XP.
                    It seems as if a lot of the DOS command stuff doesn't work in 2K? Yes?
                    (I'm not a microsoft OS user by trade.)

                    Any pointers would gladly be appreciated.

                    It seems like you need to be very careful _how_ you install these many
                    CDs onto the harddrive. Not always just a simple drag and drop it
                    seems. (told you I was a greenie)

                    Regards,
                    Jeff Hedberg



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                  • vash
                    ... OK, I ll stick with that advice. :) What _are_ most people using for servers and clients? Seemed like most of the notes I d read were win98 for both
                    Message 9 of 12 , Oct 23, 2002
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                      >
                      OK, I'll stick with that advice. :) What _are_ most people using for
                      servers and clients? Seemed like most of the notes I'd read were win98
                      for both client and server.
                      If I managed to get it working (all the data on CDs installed onto a
                      harddrive) running locally, I would assume that that's a pretty good
                      indicator of whether or not it will work over the network.
                      Does that sound right?

                      thanks,

                      Jeff Hedberg

                      >
                      > Word of advice: stick with what others are doing. If you strike out
                      > on your
                      > own, you'll end up finishing on your own. If you stay with the pack
                      > you can
                      > get help and ideas from others.
                      >
                      >
                      >>>> It seems as if a lot of the DOS command stuff doesn't work in 2K?
                      >>>> Yes?
                      > <<<
                      >
                      > Maybe. But I still do quite a bit of DOS stuff in Win2k.
                      >
                      >
                    • Russell Houlton
                      I ll leave it to others to say what all they are running. I m running a Novell server that was donated by another FHC center. Novell is what s provided if the
                      Message 10 of 12 , Oct 23, 2002
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                        I'll leave it to others to say what all they are running. I'm running a
                        Novell server that was donated by another FHC center. Novell is what's
                        provided if the church gives you a server (or at least it was). But that's
                        only for large multi-stake centers.

                        My machines are running Win95 since that was what was provided at the time
                        and I'm too lazy to change it. I understand the church will send you
                        Windows 2000 Professional if you ask.



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                        >
                        OK, I'll stick with that advice. :) What _are_ most people using for
                        servers and clients? Seemed like most of the notes I'd read were win98
                        for both client and server.
                        If I managed to get it working (all the data on CDs installed onto a
                        harddrive) running locally, I would assume that that's a pretty good
                        indicator of whether or not it will work over the network.
                        Does that sound right?

                        thanks,

                        Jeff Hedberg
                      • Bill Houghton
                        Thank you Gary. This is what worked, For Windows software, make sure to select Sheet Feeder bin 1 for your paper source in Printer setup. Thanks again, Bill
                        Message 11 of 12 , Oct 23, 2002
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                          Thank you Gary. This is what worked,

                          "For Windows software, make sure to select Sheet Feeder bin 1 for your paper source in Printer setup."

                          Thanks again,
                          Bill Houghton

                        • phil_jeffrey28
                          In our case we have a Win2k advanced server with 15 clients all runing win2k professional. I have everything networked that can be including commercial
                          Message 12 of 12 , Oct 23, 2002
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                            In our case we have a Win2k advanced server with 15 clients all
                            runing win2k professional. I have everything networked that can be
                            including commercial software. This includes FS (I have no batch
                            files just mapped the drives), PRF, all the census and Vital records,
                            Fredmans and Mormon index. Other than they are a bear to figure out
                            how to set them up. All are working and I have no problems having
                            multiple people use the data at the same time. I will clarify this by
                            saying we have a very fast server AMD 2100+ lots of memory, (2) 160G
                            drives one doing a mirror of the other (in case of failure) and a
                            very fast network. All of these have internet access thru a DSL line.
                            So all I am saying is it can work once you get past the kinks.
                            Phil

                            --- In fhctech@y..., vash <vash@s...> wrote:
                            > >
                            > OK, I'll stick with that advice. :) What _are_ most people using
                            for
                            > servers and clients? Seemed like most of the notes I'd read were
                            win98
                            > for both client and server.
                            > If I managed to get it working (all the data on CDs installed onto
                            a
                            > harddrive) running locally, I would assume that that's a pretty
                            good
                            > indicator of whether or not it will work over the network.
                            > Does that sound right?
                            >
                            > thanks,
                            >
                            > Jeff Hedberg
                            >
                            > >
                            > > Word of advice: stick with what others are doing. If you strike
                            out
                            > > on your
                            > > own, you'll end up finishing on your own. If you stay with the
                            pack
                            > > you can
                            > > get help and ideas from others.
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >>>> It seems as if a lot of the DOS command stuff doesn't work in
                            2K?
                            > >>>> Yes?
                            > > <<<
                            > >
                            > > Maybe. But I still do quite a bit of DOS stuff in Win2k.
                            > >
                            > >
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