If you want a security hole it is spelled MIC(Stands for Mickey what's
his name)ROSOFT. There is nothing more porous than a Microsoft network.
There is a reason that 70+% of all websites run under LINUX and most of
the others are on Sun Solaris. Only those who don't care or don't know
would run a website under a Microsoft product. We all need to be
security aware. We also need to follow church guidelines. We also need
to tap all of the fantastic talent in this group to find new and better
ways of setting up and running our networks to support our customers.
I was "given" a young man who has a medical condition that precludes him
from going on a mission. He was assigned to the FHC by the stake
president. You all know the type, has a computer network in his
bedroom, built computers for quite a while... La, la la. I went over to
meet with him about a week after he started and watched him reboot the
server four times in a matter of 3 minutes because the workstations
weren't attaching. No troubleshooting just slam and jam. Too many
people think they know networking and try to "help" you with the systems
management functions on Microsoft networks. Linux would definitely slow
a lot of them down. I for one am seriously thinking about moving our
network to Linux just to keep the pretenders at bay. With Linux I could
set up a security system that would allow me to differentiate types of
users and provide protection for those things I don't want them to
Oh well, will get off my soapbox. Been a tough week for us so a little
sensitive to this area. Hope I didn't offend anyone.
From: Justin Masters - FMEC [mailto:jmasters@...
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [fhctech] Re: FIS on linux
Oh, well I was focusing on the comment about you forgetting something at
Church and you just happily telnet in...clear text passwords sent and
And I thought I heard about an ssh security hole the other week or two
Verily, helpdeskdan did write:
| Wow, slow down there partner! I proved it can be DONE, I did not
| suggest doing exactly that. In fact, by the Ip, you'll note I was
| doing this internally. If you really wanted to do it, the way to go
| would be SSH, not telnet. But, seeing as how telnet was easier to
| play with than SSH, telnet it was.
| The telnet thing actually was just an added bonus. Let's forget
| about the telnet thing, and just look at the linux/dosemu/freedos
| thing. It could make a reasonable replacement for windows. Linux is
| MUCH more secure than windows. (Standalone or on Internet though I
| am refering to standalone) Heck, RedHat is easier to install than
| Or heck, let's take out the linux and dosemu part. It at least
| proves that it runs under freedos.
| Interesting options though, don't you think?
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