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  • John M. Shaw
    Windows 7 is supported in FHC. All *new* computers for FHC come with Windows 7 licenses and images. ... -- Regards, *John Shaw* *Stake Clerk* *Liberty
    Message 1 of 12 , Jan 4, 2013
      Windows 7 is supported in FHC.  All new computers for FHC come with Windows 7 licenses and images.


      On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Jon Studer <studer_je@...> wrote:
       

      These donated machines came with Windows 7 Pro licenses. Is windows 7 supported by FHC Support, or do I need to install Windows XP?
       
      Thanks,
      -Jon

       

      To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
      From: zionssuburb@...
      Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:46:22 -0600
      Subject: RE: [fhctech] Image DVD


       

      These days installing the Tivoli software gets you nearly everything you need. If you install the xp image you'll end up doing everything twice. If you have the skillset create your own image and install Tivoli and sophos post image.

      On Dec 31, 2012 7:34 PM, "Dana Repouille" <drepouille@...> wrote:
       
      This might be helpful:





      To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
      From: studer_je@...
      Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:44:51 -0800
      Subject: [fhctech] Image DVD



      I've been out of the FHC tech support game for a while. I'm back in and need some guidance.
      In the past, FHC Support sent us a 2 disk DVD set called "Hardware Independent Image, Family History Center Desktop Image".
       
      We have some computers that were donated and I need to swap out some of the older PC's.
       
      Is there a newer DVD that has something newer than Windows XP on it, or should I just try use the old XP disks and apply updates?
       
      Any help would be appreciated.
       
      Thanks,
      -Jon
       






      --
      Regards,

      John Shaw
      Stake Clerk
      Liberty Missouri Stake
      mobile: 816-885-4054

    • David J. Wardell
      Our 2012 computer delivery from Salt Lake came with XP installed and the distribution disks from Dell for Windows 7. When I recently tried requesting a
      Message 2 of 12 , Jan 4, 2013

        Our 2012 computer delivery from Salt Lake came with XP installed and the distribution disks from Dell for Windows 7. When I recently tried requesting a “Windows 7 image” from support, I was told that “there is no such thing” and “no ability to convert existing computers from XP to Windows 7.” The only thing I was told I could do is use the original Dell installation disks and build everything from scratch.

         

        I saved the relevant e-mail message if anyone is interested.

         

        David Wardell

        Williamsburg Virginia Family History Center

         

         

         

        From: fhctech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John M. Shaw
        Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:12 PM
        To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [fhctech] Image DVD

         

         

        Windows 7 is supported in FHC.  All new computers for FHC come with Windows 7 licenses and images.

         

        On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Jon Studer <studer_je@...> wrote:

         

        These donated machines came with Windows 7 Pro licenses. Is windows 7 supported by FHC Support, or do I need to install Windows XP?
         
        Thanks,
        -Jon

         


        To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
        From: zionssuburb@...
        Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:46:22 -0600
        Subject: RE: [fhctech] Image DVD



         

        These days installing the Tivoli software gets you nearly everything you need. If you install the xp image you'll end up doing everything twice. If you have the skillset create your own image and install Tivoli and sophos post image.

        On Dec 31, 2012 7:34 PM, "Dana Repouille" <drepouille@...> wrote:

         

        This might be helpful:

         

         

         


        To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
        From: studer_je@...
        Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:44:51 -0800
        Subject: [fhctech] Image DVD


        I've been out of the FHC tech support game for a while. I'm back in and need some guidance.
        In the past, FHC Support sent us a 2 disk DVD set called "Hardware Independent Image, Family History Center Desktop Image".
         
        We have some computers that were donated and I need to swap out some of the older PC's.
         
        Is there a newer DVD that has something newer than Windows XP on it, or should I just try use the old XP disks and apply updates?
         
        Any help would be appreciated.
         
        Thanks,
        -Jon
         

         

         



         

        --
        Regards,

        John Shaw

        Stake Clerk

        Liberty Missouri Stake

        mobile: 816-885-4054

      • Jon Studer
        If i place a new Windows 7 machine on the FHC network, how do I get antivirus software and other software installed? Is there a URL to go for the download?
        Message 3 of 12 , Jan 4, 2013
          If i place a new Windows 7 machine on the FHC network, how do I get antivirus software and other software installed?
          Is there a URL to go for the download?

          Thanks,
          Jon


          On Jan 4, 2013, at 14:06, "Jon Studer" <studer_je@...> wrote:

           

          These donated machines came with Windows 7 Pro licenses. Is windows 7 supported by FHC Support, or do I need to install Windows XP?
           
          Thanks,
          -Jon

           

          To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
          From: zionssuburb@...
          Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:46:22 -0600
          Subject: RE: [fhctech] Image DVD

           

          These days installing the Tivoli software gets you nearly everything you need. If you install the xp image you'll end up doing everything twice. If you have the skillset create your own image and install Tivoli and sophos post image.

          On Dec 31, 2012 7:34 PM, "Dana Repouille" <drepouille@...> wrote:
           
          This might be helpful:





          To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
          From: studer_je@...
          Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:44:51 -0800
          Subject: [fhctech] Image DVD



          I've been out of the FHC tech support game for a while. I'm back in and need some guidance.
          In the past, FHC Support sent us a 2 disk DVD set called "Hardware Independent Image, Family History Center Desktop Image".
           
          We have some computers that were donated and I need to swap out some of the older PC's.
           
          Is there a newer DVD that has something newer than Windows XP on it, or should I just try use the old XP disks and apply updates?
           
          Any help would be appreciated.
           
          Thanks,
          -Jon
           



        • Bill Buchanan
          FHC Support are supporting the Windows7 machines in my FHC. Microsoft is dropping all their support for WindowsXP. I don t see any need for XP at this point.
          Message 4 of 12 , Jan 4, 2013
            "FHC Support" are supporting the Windows7 machines in my FHC. Microsoft is dropping all their support for WindowsXP.

            I don't see any need for XP at this point.
             
            Bill Buchanan

             
            On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jon Studer <studer_je@...> wrote:
             

            These donated machines came with Windows 7 Pro licenses. Is windows 7 supported by FHC Support, or do I need to install Windows XP?
             
            Thanks,
            -Jon

             

            To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
            From: zionssuburb@...
            Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:46:22 -0600
            Subject: RE: [fhctech] Image DVD

             

            These days installing the Tivoli software gets you nearly everything you need. If you install the xp image you'll end up doing everything twice. If you have the skillset create your own image and install Tivoli and sophos post image.

            On Dec 31, 2012 7:34 PM, "Dana Repouille" <drepouille@...> wrote:
             
            This might be helpful:





            To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
            From: studer_je@...
            Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:44:51 -0800
            Subject: [fhctech] Image DVD



            I've been out of the FHC tech support game for a while. I'm back in and need some guidance.
            In the past, FHC Support sent us a 2 disk DVD set called "Hardware Independent Image, Family History Center Desktop Image".
             
            We have some computers that were donated and I need to swap out some of the older PC's.
             
            Is there a newer DVD that has something newer than Windows XP on it, or should I just try use the old XP disks and apply updates?
             
            Any help would be appreciated.
             
            Thanks,
            -Jon
             




             
          • John M. Shaw
            This is not the case anymore, but I can t say when this might have changed, all I know is we ordered a new computer for a new FHC in our stake, in February, we
            Message 5 of 12 , Jan 4, 2013
              This is not the case anymore, but I can't say when this might have changed, all I know is we ordered a new computer for a new FHC in our stake, in February, we received the computer much later in the year because the FMG delivered it as a clerk computer to an adjacent stake.  When I got it back it had MLS on it., so I required a Win7 install disk to re-image the computer because policy for MLS states that the computer must be wiped.

              The Software Hardware Order form available from FamilySearch.org Help section has a checkbox to order it and you can specify xp or win7

              I've often been told many things by very helpful missionaries volunteering their time to support me, but that information has been iffy from time to time.

              The church is messaging, basically, that if you have XP don't upgrade to Win7 even if you have the license, because it will help them avoid an issue of someone upgrading to win7 who doesn't have a license.

              If you have a license, ask them for a disk... if not, install it from Dell.. either way, there isn't much of value on the image from FHC anymore anything coming from them goes through an upgrade to Tivoli anyway, you have to install the agent upgrade either way... so I say, just get a simple win 7 image, then run the tivoli agent, get the ssl certs installed and away you go.


              On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM, David J. Wardell <fhc_lists@...> wrote:
               

              Our 2012 computer delivery from Salt Lake came with XP installed and the distribution disks from Dell for Windows 7. When I recently tried requesting a “Windows 7 image” from support, I was told that “there is no such thing” and “no ability to convert existing computers from XP to Windows 7.” The only thing I was told I could do is use the original Dell installation disks and build everything from scratch.

               

              I saved the relevant e-mail message if anyone is interested.

               

              David Wardell

              Williamsburg Virginia Family History Center

               

               

               

              From: fhctech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John M. Shaw
              Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:12 PM
              To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [fhctech] Image DVD

               

               

              Windows 7 is supported in FHC.  All new computers for FHC come with Windows 7 licenses and images.

               

              On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Jon Studer <studer_je@...> wrote:

               

              These donated machines came with Windows 7 Pro licenses. Is windows 7 supported by FHC Support, or do I need to install Windows XP?
               
              Thanks,
              -Jon

               


              To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
              From: zionssuburb@...
              Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:46:22 -0600
              Subject: RE: [fhctech] Image DVD



               

              These days installing the Tivoli software gets you nearly everything you need. If you install the xp image you'll end up doing everything twice. If you have the skillset create your own image and install Tivoli and sophos post image.

              On Dec 31, 2012 7:34 PM, "Dana Repouille" <drepouille@...> wrote:

               

              This might be helpful:

               

               

               


              To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
              From: studer_je@...
              Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:44:51 -0800
              Subject: [fhctech] Image DVD


              I've been out of the FHC tech support game for a while. I'm back in and need some guidance.
              In the past, FHC Support sent us a 2 disk DVD set called "Hardware Independent Image, Family History Center Desktop Image".
               
              We have some computers that were donated and I need to swap out some of the older PC's.
               
              Is there a newer DVD that has something newer than Windows XP on it, or should I just try use the old XP disks and apply updates?
               
              Any help would be appreciated.
               
              Thanks,
              -Jon
               

               

               



               

              --
              Regards,

              John Shaw

              Stake Clerk

              Liberty Missouri Stake

              mobile: 816-885-4054




              --
              Regards,

              John Shaw
              Stake Clerk
              Liberty Missouri Stake
              mobile: 816-885-4054

            • James W Anderson
              ________________________________ From: Bill Buchanan To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 3:46 PM Subject:
              Message 6 of 12 , Jan 4, 2013


                From: Bill Buchanan <genealogistbuchanan@...>
                To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 3:46 PM
                Subject: Re: [fhctech] Image DVD

                 
                "FHC Support" are supporting the Windows7 machines in my FHC. Microsoft is dropping all their support for WindowsXP.

                I don't see any need for XP at this point.
                 
                Bill Buchanan

                 
                On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jon Studer <studer_je@...> wrote:
                 
                These donated machines came with Windows 7 Pro licenses. Is windows 7 supported by FHC Support, or do I need to install Windows XP?
                 
                Thanks,
                -Jon

                 

                To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                From: zionssuburb@...
                Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:46:22 -0600
                Subject: RE: [fhctech] Image DVD

                 
                These days installing the Tivoli software gets you nearly everything you need. If you install the xp image you'll end up doing everything twice. If you have the skillset create your own image and install Tivoli and sophos post image.
                On Dec 31, 2012 7:34 PM, "Dana Repouille" <drepouille@...> wrote:
                 
                This might be helpful:





                To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                From: studer_je@...
                Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:44:51 -0800
                Subject: [fhctech] Image DVD



                I've been out of the FHC tech support game for a while. I'm back in and need some guidance.
                In the past, FHC Support sent us a 2 disk DVD set called "Hardware Independent Image, Family History Center Desktop Image".
                 
                We have some computers that were donated and I need to swap out some of the older PC's.
                 
                Is there a newer DVD that has something newer than Windows XP on it, or should I just try use the old XP disks and apply updates?
                 
                Any help would be appreciated.
                 
                Thanks,
                -Jon
                 



                 


              • James W Anderson
                Screwed that last send up, didn t get my message in along with the quoted message, so here s what I was going to say. XP is still supported for just over
                Message 7 of 12 , Jan 4, 2013
                  Screwed that last send up, didn't get my message in along with the quoted message, so here's what I was going to say.

                  XP is still supported for just over another year by Microsoft.  After sometime in the first part of 2014, they will no longer support it, and will not send down security and other updates.  Last service pack was SP4, I believe, and it has more fixes than SP3 had.

                  Vista and Windows 7 may end up having shorter lifespans than XP or even 2000 did, because they want to move verything eventually to the new technology that Windows 8 offers.



                  From: Bill Buchanan <genealogistbuchanan@...>
                  To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 3:46 PM
                  Subject: Re: [fhctech] Image DVD

                   
                  "FHC Support" are supporting the Windows7 machines in my FHC. Microsoft is dropping all their support for WindowsXP.

                  I don't see any need for XP at this point.
                   
                  Bill Buchanan

                   
                  On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Jon Studer <studer_je@...> wrote:
                   
                  These donated machines came with Windows 7 Pro licenses. Is windows 7 supported by FHC Support, or do I need to install Windows XP?
                   
                  Thanks,
                  -Jon

                   

                  To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                  From: zionssuburb@...
                  Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:46:22 -0600
                  Subject: RE: [fhctech] Image DVD

                   
                  These days installing the Tivoli software gets you nearly everything you need. If you install the xp image you'll end up doing everything twice. If you have the skillset create your own image and install Tivoli and sophos post image.
                  On Dec 31, 2012 7:34 PM, "Dana Repouille" <drepouille@...> wrote:
                   
                  This might be helpful:





                  To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                  From: studer_je@...
                  Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:44:51 -0800
                  Subject: [fhctech] Image DVD



                  I've been out of the FHC tech support game for a while. I'm back in and need some guidance.
                  In the past, FHC Support sent us a 2 disk DVD set called "Hardware Independent Image, Family History Center Desktop Image".
                   
                  We have some computers that were donated and I need to swap out some of the older PC's.
                   
                  Is there a newer DVD that has something newer than Windows XP on it, or should I just try use the old XP disks and apply updates?
                   
                  Any help would be appreciated.
                   
                  Thanks,
                  -Jon
                   



                   


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