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  • Russell Hltn
    The original install CD doesn t work. It does a query against the DOS version and bombs when it doesn t recognize the response. There are a couple of ways to
    Message 1 of 10 , Feb 10, 2009
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      The original install CD doesn't work. It does a query against the DOS
      version and bombs when it doesn't recognize the response.

      There are a couple of ways to deal with it:

      1) Copy the working install from another machine. Since this is a DOS
      application, that's quite easy.

      2) Call the Family History department and ask for the newer install CD
      that will work with WinXP.


      There might be a way to get things to work with the SETVER command,
      but I don't think I've heard of anyone doing that.


      On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Fred Miesterfeld <formiest@...> wrote:
      > Has anyone installed the old with DOS FanilySearch on a Network with a
      > Windows XP Operating System? If so, could you please tell me the procedure
      > you used?
      >
      >
      >
      > Fred Miesterfeld
    • landlord_dave
      ... a Windows XP Operating System? If so, could you please tell me the procedure you used? ... Try http://fhctech.org/fhc/applications/fs.htm I think you may
      Message 2 of 10 , Feb 10, 2009
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        --- In fhctech@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Miesterfeld" <formiest@...>
        wrote:
        >
        > Has anyone installed the old with DOS FanilySearch on a Network with
        a Windows XP Operating System? If so, could you please tell me the
        procedure you used?
        >
        >
        >
        > Fred Miesterfeld
        >

        Try http://fhctech.org/fhc/applications/fs.htm
        I think you may get all you need at that site.

        Sincerely,
        Dave Cottrell
        FHC Director Poole England Stake
      • landlord_dave
        ... a Windows XP Operating System? If so, could you please tell me the procedure you used? ... You could also read the following to get the FS 2.27 install to
        Message 3 of 10 , Feb 10, 2009
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          --- In fhctech@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Miesterfeld" <formiest@...>
          wrote:
          >
          > Has anyone installed the old with DOS FanilySearch on a Network with
          a Windows XP Operating System? If so, could you please tell me the
          procedure you used?
          >
          >
          >
          > Fred Miesterfeld
          >
          You could also read the following to get the FS 2.27 install to work
          on Win XP:-


          The current policy is to have family history centers install Windows
          2000 SP4 on computers that will run FamilySearch 2.27 for DOS.



          There is still an issue with FamilySearch 2.27 ceasing to work when
          installed on Windows XP and when you use the resource CDs (instead of
          a network setup). Each time you insert a CD in a computer running
          Windows XP, it asks what you would like to do with that CD. This
          causes the FamilySearch 2.27 program to crash.



          FamilySearch 2.27 (DOS) install instructions for Windows XP:

          Log in as an administrator.
          Put the FamilySearch 2.27 Installation CD in your CD drive.
          The program will start installing automatically. At some point during
          this process, you will receive this message: "Cannot determine
          operating system." Click OK to cancel the installation.
          Create a new shortcut on the desktop by right-clicking on a blank area
          of the desktop. Then select New, and then Shortcut.
          Click the Browse button.
          Click the plus sign (+) next to My Computer, and then find and
          highlight the C:\Windows\system32\command.com file.
          Click OK. Click Next.
          For the name of the shortcut, enter MS-DOS Prompt. Then click Next.
          Click Finish. This will create an MS-DOS icon on your desktop called
          MS-DOS Prompt.
          Right-click this MS-DOS Prompt icon, and then click Properties.
          Click the Memory tab.
          Under the Expanded (EMS) memory area, select 4096.



          Click the Screen tab.
          Select Full-screen by clicking the circle next to it.




          Click Apply.
          Next, click the Program tab.
          In the Cmd line: box, type D:\install.exe (or replace the D with the
          correct letter for your CD drive).
          Click Apply, and then click OK.
          With the FamilySearch 2.27 CD in the CD drive, double-click the MS-DOS
          Prompt icon.
          Install the FamilySearch program according to the instructions on the
          screen.
          Create a shortcut for the FamilySearch DOS program by right-clicking
          on a blank area of the desktop. Then select New, and then Shortcut.
          Click the Browse button.
          Click the plus sign (+) next to My Computer, and then find and
          highlight the C:\PAS\PAS.exe file.
          Click OK. Then click Next.
          For the name of the shortcut, enter FamilySearch. Then click Next.
          Click Finish. This will create an MS-DOS icon on your desktop called
          FamilySearch.
          Right-click the FamilySearch icon, and click Properties.
          Click the Program tab.
          In the lower-right corner, click the Change Icon… button.
          Click the Browse… button.
          Find and select the C:\PAS\Fs.ico file.
          Click Open.
          To save the icon setting, click OK.
          Click the Memory tab.
          In the Expanded (EMS) memory area, select 10240.



          Click the Screen tab.
          Select Full-screen by clicking the circle next to it.
          Click the Misc tab.
          Remove the check mark next to Allow Screen Saver.
          In the Idle sensitivity box, move the slider bar all the way to the
          left.
          In the Windows shortcut keys area, remove the check mark next to
          Alt+Enter.



          Click Apply, and then click OK.
          Open My Computer, and then double-click the C: drive.
          Double-click the PAS folder.
          Double-click the Pasetup.txt file.
          Find the line DRIVED=CD-ROM (Caddy/Cartridge).
          Note: The line could read differently, depending on the letter of the
          CD-ROM drive and the type, such as DRIVEE=CD-ROM (Drawer/Tray).
          Change the last part to read CD-ROM (Generic).
          Note: This line is case sensitive.
          Click File, click Save, and close the window.
          Double-click the Pas.ini file.
          Find the line D=CD-ROM (Caddy/Cartridge).
          Note: The line could read differently, depending on the letter of the
          CD-ROM drive and the type, such as DRIVEE=CD-ROM (Drawer/Tray).
          Change the last part to read CD-ROM (Generic).
          Note: This line is case sensitive.
          Click File, click Save, and close the window.
          Drag the MS-DOS Prompt icon that was created in step 9 into the
          Recycle Bin, and empty the Recycle Bin.
          Note: As you run the program, you may get a pop-up window every time
          you insert a CD that asks what you want to do with it. This is a
          function of Windows XP. Please refer to the Windows help files for
          information on how to correct this.


          Regards
          Dave Cottrell
          FHC Director, Poole England Stake.
        • gtempleman1@comcast.net
          But Russell s suggestion to either copy a working PAS folder or using the modified disk for XP installation is a LOT easier than all the steps below. Fred
          Message 4 of 10 , Feb 10, 2009
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            But Russell's suggestion to either copy a working PAS folder or using the modified disk for XP installation is a LOT easier than all the steps below.

             

            Fred specifically asked about installing in a network environment so the issue about constantly requesting what to do with the CD is moot. Unless you have a motherboard that does not support EMS memory, getting FS to *run* on XP is not difficult once it is installed.

             

            However, there are a few pre-conditions that need to be met.

            1. The data files need to be on the server in the proper folder format.

            2. The client machines need to have drive maps to those folders BEFORE running the FS install or the configuration files do not get created properly (unless one is copying the PAS folder and matching the mapping). If you do this and choose the proper network install settings then there is no need to manually edit Pasetup.txt, Pas.ini.

            3. The server should have user accounts with the same name (and password if needed) to match each client machine.

             

            Gary Templeman


            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "landlord_dave" <davejcottrell@...>
            To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:28:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
            Subject: [fhctech] Re: DOS FanilySearch on a Network  with a Windows XP Operating System

            --- In fhctech@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Miesterfeld" <formiest@...>
            wrote:
            >
            > Has anyone installed the old with DOS FanilySearch on a Network with
            a Windows XP Operating System? If so, could you please tell me the
            procedure you used?
            >
            >  
            >
            > Fred Miesterfeld
            >
            You could also read the following to get the FS 2.27 install to work
            on Win XP:-


            The current policy is to have family history centers install Windows
            2000 SP4 on computers that will run FamilySearch 2.27 for DOS.

             

            There is still an issue with FamilySearch 2.27 ceasing to work when
            installed on Windows XP and when you use the resource CDs (instead of
            a network setup). Each time you insert a CD in a computer running
            Windows XP, it asks what you would like to do with that CD. This
            causes the FamilySearch 2.27 program to crash.

             

            FamilySearch 2.27 (DOS) install instructions for Windows XP:

            Log in as an administrator.
            Put the FamilySearch 2.27 Installation CD in your CD drive.
            The program will start installing automatically. At some point during
            this process, you will receive this message: "Cannot determine
            operating system." Click OK to cancel the installation.
            Create a new shortcut on the desktop by right-clicking on a blank area
            of the desktop. Then select New, and then Shortcut.
            Click the Browse button.
            Click the plus sign (+) next to My Computer, and then find and
            highlight the C:\Windows\system32\command.com file.
            Click OK. Click Next.
            For the name of the shortcut, enter MS-DOS Prompt. Then click Next.
            Click Finish. This will create an MS-DOS icon on your desktop called
            MS-DOS Prompt.
            Right-click this MS-DOS Prompt icon, and then click Properties.
            Click the Memory tab.
            Under the Expanded (EMS) memory area, select 4096.



            Click the Screen tab.
            Select Full-screen by clicking the circle next to it.




            Click Apply.
            Next, click the Program tab.
            In the Cmd line: box, type D:\install.exe (or replace the D with the
            correct letter for your CD drive).
            Click Apply, and then click OK.
            With the FamilySearch 2.27 CD in the CD drive, double-click the MS-DOS
            Prompt icon.
            Install the FamilySearch program according to the instructions on the
            screen.
            Create a shortcut for the FamilySearch DOS program by right-clicking
            on a blank area of the desktop. Then select New, and then Shortcut.
            Click the Browse button.
            Click the plus sign (+) next to My Computer, and then find and
            highlight the C:\PAS\PAS.exe file.
            Click OK. Then click Next.
            For the name of the shortcut, enter FamilySearch. Then click Next.
            Click Finish. This will create an MS-DOS icon on your desktop called
            FamilySearch.
            Right-click the FamilySearch icon, and click Properties.
            Click the Program tab.
            In the lower-right corner, click the Change Icon… button.
            Click the Browse… button.
            Find and select the C:\PAS\Fs.ico file.
            Click Open.
            To save the icon setting, click OK.
            Click the Memory tab.
            In the Expanded (EMS) memory area, select 10240.



            Click the Screen tab.
            Select Full-screen by clicking the circle next to it.
            Click the Misc tab.
            Remove the check mark next to Allow Screen Saver.
            In the Idle sensitivity box, move the slider bar all the way to the
            left.
            In the Windows shortcut keys area, remove the check mark next to
            Alt+Enter.



            Click Apply, and then click OK.
            Open My Computer, and then double-click the C: drive.
            Double-click the PAS folder.
            Double-click the Pasetup.txt file.
            Find the line DRIVED=CD-ROM (Caddy/Cartridge).
            Note: The line could read differently, depending on the letter of the
            CD-ROM drive and the type, such as DRIVEE=CD-ROM (Drawer/Tray).
            Change the last part to read CD-ROM (Generic).
            Note: This line is case sensitive.
            Click File, click Save, and close the window.
            Double-click the Pas.ini file.
            Find the line D=CD-ROM (Caddy/Cartridge).
            Note: The line could read differently, depending on the letter of the
            CD-ROM drive and the type, such as DRIVEE=CD-ROM (Drawer/Tray).
            Change the last part to read CD-ROM (Generic).
            Note: This line is case sensitive.
            Click File, click Save, and close the window.
            Drag the MS-DOS Prompt icon that was created in step 9 into the
            Recycle Bin, and empty the Recycle Bin.
            Note: As you run the program, you may get a pop-up window every time
            you insert a CD that asks what you want to do with it. This is a
            function of Windows XP. Please refer to the Windows help files for
            information on how to correct this.


            Regards
            Dave Cottrell
            FHC Director, Poole England Stake.





          • gtempleman1@comcast.net
            Lynn Shaw recently posted that the current Church policy is to have FHCs phase out of Windows 2000. Gary Templeman ... From: landlord_dave
            Message 5 of 10 , Feb 10, 2009
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              Lynn Shaw recently posted that the current Church policy is to have FHCs phase out of Windows 2000.

               

              Gary Templeman

               


              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "landlord_dave" <davejcottrell@...>
              To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:28:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
              Subject: [fhctech] Re: DOS FanilySearch on a Network  with a Windows XP Operating System


              The current policy is to have family history centers install Windows
              2000 SP4 on computers that will run FamilySearch 2.27 for DOS.

            • Russell Hltn
              Also, I think you can install FamilySearch(DOS) via the LANDesk. However, I m not sure how you d go about configuring it after that.
              Message 6 of 10 , Feb 10, 2009
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                Also, I think you can install FamilySearch(DOS) via the LANDesk.
                However, I'm not sure how you'd go about configuring it after that.
              • Fred Miesterfeld
                Thanks for all your sugestions. I ll give it a try again. Fred Miesterfeld ... From: Fred Miesterfeld To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10,
                Message 7 of 10 , Feb 12, 2009
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                  Thanks for all your sugestions. I'll give it a try again.
                   
                  Fred Miesterfeld
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                  Subject: [fhctech] DOS FanilySearch on a Network with a Windows XP Operating System

                  Has anyone installed the old with DOS FanilySearch on a Network with a Windows XP Operating System? If so, could you please tell me the procedure you used?

                  Fred Miesterfeld



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                • lazybee78
                  Hi group, Using the instructions below I was able to install FamilySearch 2.27 on an Windows XP machine, (Just the Scottish Church records) I have those
                  Message 8 of 10 , Jan 10, 2010
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                    Hi group,

                    Using the instructions below I was able to install FamilySearch 2.27 on an Windows XP machine, (Just the Scottish Church records) I have those records in a shared folder on a second hard drive on this system and need to figure out what how to tell the program to look for those records on that drive instead of the CD-Rom.

                    Thanks in advance for the help

                    Lisa Baker
                    Computer Specialist
                    Hemet California Stake FHC


                    > FamilySearch 2.27 (DOS) install instructions for Windows XP:
                    >
                    > Log in as an administrator.
                    > Put the FamilySearch 2.27 Installation CD in your CD drive.
                    > The program will start installing automatically. At some point during
                    > this process, you will receive this message: "Cannot determine
                    > operating system." Click OK to cancel the installation.
                    > Create a new shortcut on the desktop by right-clicking on a blank area
                    > of the desktop. Then select New, and then Shortcut.
                    > Click the Browse button.
                    > Click the plus sign (+) next to My Computer, and then find and
                    > highlight the C:\Windows\system32\command.com file.
                    > Click OK. Click Next.
                    > For the name of the shortcut, enter MS-DOS Prompt. Then click Next.
                    > Click Finish. This will create an MS-DOS icon on your desktop called
                    > MS-DOS Prompt.
                    > Right-click this MS-DOS Prompt icon, and then click Properties.
                    > Click the Memory tab.
                    > Under the Expanded (EMS) memory area, select 4096.

                    > Click the Screen tab.
                    > Select Full-screen by clicking the circle next to it.
                    > Click Apply.
                    > Next, click the Program tab.
                    > In the Cmd line: box, type D:\install.exe (or replace the D with the correct letter for your CD drive).
                    > Click Apply, and then click OK.
                    > With the FamilySearch 2.27 CD in the CD drive, double-click the MS-DOS
                    > Prompt icon.
                    > Install the FamilySearch program according to the instructions on the
                    > screen.
                    > Create a shortcut for the FamilySearch DOS program by right-clicking
                    > on a blank area of the desktop. Then select New, and then Shortcut.
                    > Click the Browse button.
                    > Click the plus sign (+) next to My Computer, and then find and
                    > highlight the C:\PAS\PAS.exe file.
                    > Click OK. Then click Next.
                    > For the name of the shortcut, enter FamilySearch. Then click Next.
                    > Click Finish. This will create an MS-DOS icon on your desktop called
                    > FamilySearch.
                    > Right-click the FamilySearch icon, and click Properties.
                    > Click the Program tab.
                    > In the lower-right corner, click the Change Icon… button.
                    > Click the Browse… button.
                    > Find and select the C:\PAS\Fs.ico file.
                    > Click Open.
                    > To save the icon setting, click OK.
                    > Click the Memory tab.
                    > In the Expanded (EMS) memory area, select 10240.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Click the Screen tab.
                    > Select Full-screen by clicking the circle next to it.
                    > Click the Misc tab.
                    > Remove the check mark next to Allow Screen Saver.
                    > In the Idle sensitivity box, move the slider bar all the way to the
                    > left.
                    > In the Windows shortcut keys area, remove the check mark next to
                    > Alt+Enter.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Click Apply, and then click OK.
                    > Open My Computer, and then double-click the C: drive.
                    > Double-click the PAS folder.
                    > Double-click the Pasetup.txt file.
                    > Find the line DRIVED=CD-ROM (Caddy/Cartridge).
                    > Note: The line could read differently, depending on the letter of the
                    > CD-ROM drive and the type, such as DRIVEE=CD-ROM (Drawer/Tray).
                    > Change the last part to read CD-ROM (Generic).
                    > Note: This line is case sensitive.
                    > Click File, click Save, and close the window.
                    > Double-click the Pas.ini file.
                    > Find the line D=CD-ROM (Caddy/Cartridge).
                    > Note: The line could read differently, depending on the letter of the
                    > CD-ROM drive and the type, such as DRIVEE=CD-ROM (Drawer/Tray).
                    > Change the last part to read CD-ROM (Generic).
                    > Note: This line is case sensitive.
                    > Click File, click Save, and close the window.
                    > Drag the MS-DOS Prompt icon that was created in step 9 into the
                    > Recycle Bin, and empty the Recycle Bin.
                    > Note: As you run the program, you may get a pop-up window every time
                    > you insert a CD that asks what you want to do with it. This is a
                    > function of Windows XP. Please refer to the Windows help files for
                    > information on how to correct this.
                    >
                    >
                    > Regards
                    > Dave Cottrell
                    > FHC Director, Poole England Stake.
                    >
                  • Perry E Shumway
                    You have to map the drive/folder in which the Scottish records are stored and then run FamilySearch DOS setup and assign the mapped drive letter as a network
                    Message 9 of 10 , Jan 11, 2010
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                      You have to map the drive/folder in which the Scottish records are stored and then run FamilySearch DOS setup and assign the mapped drive letter as a network drive. This is the basic procedure and I remember it. It has been some time since I last did it.


                      From: lazybee78 <BakerFamily78@...>
                      To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 6:24:13 PM
                      Subject: [fhctech] Re: DOS FanilySearch on a Network with a Windows XP Operating System

                       



                      Hi group,

                      Using the instructions below I was able to install FamilySearch 2.27 on an Windows XP machine, (Just the Scottish Church records) I have those records in a shared folder on a second hard drive on this system and need to figure out what how to tell the program to look for those records on that drive instead of the CD-Rom.

                      Thanks in advance for the help

                      Lisa Baker
                      Computer Specialist
                      Hemet California Stake FHC

                      > FamilySearch 2.27 (DOS) install instructions for Windows XP:
                      >
                      > Log in as an administrator.
                      > Put the FamilySearch 2.27 Installation CD in your CD drive.
                      > The program will start installing automatically. At some point during
                      > this process, you will receive this message: "Cannot determine
                      > operating system." Click OK to cancel the installation.
                      > Create a new shortcut on the desktop by right-clicking on a blank area
                      > of the desktop. Then select New, and then Shortcut.
                      > Click the Browse button.
                      > Click the plus sign (+) next to My Computer, and then find and
                      > highlight the C:\Windows\system32 \command. com file.
                      > Click OK. Click Next.
                      > For the name of the shortcut, enter MS-DOS Prompt. Then click Next.
                      > Click Finish. This will create an MS-DOS icon on your desktop called
                      > MS-DOS Prompt.
                      > Right-click this MS-DOS Prompt icon, and then click Properties.
                      > Click the Memory tab.
                      > Under the Expanded (EMS) memory area, select 4096.

                      > Click the Screen tab.
                      > Select Full-screen by clicking the circle next to it.
                      > Click Apply.
                      > Next, click the Program tab.
                      > In the Cmd line: box, type D:\install.exe (or replace the D with the correct letter for your CD drive).
                      > Click Apply, and then click OK.
                      > With the FamilySearch 2.27 CD in the CD drive, double-click the MS-DOS
                      > Prompt icon.
                      > Install the FamilySearch program according to the instructions on the
                      > screen.
                      > Create a shortcut for the FamilySearch DOS program by right-clicking
                      > on a blank area of the desktop. Then select New, and then Shortcut.
                      > Click the Browse button.
                      > Click the plus sign (+) next to My Computer, and then find and
                      > highlight the C:\PAS\PAS.exe file.
                      > Click OK. Then click Next.
                      > For the name of the shortcut, enter FamilySearch. Then click Next.
                      > Click Finish. This will create an MS-DOS icon on your desktop called
                      > FamilySearch.
                      > Right-click the FamilySearch icon, and click Properties.
                      > Click the Program tab.
                      > In the lower-right corner, click the Change Icon… button.
                      > Click the Browse… button.
                      > Find and select the C:\PAS\Fs.ico file.
                      > Click Open.
                      > To save the icon setting, click OK.
                      > Click the Memory tab.
                      > In the Expanded (EMS) memory area, select 10240.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Click the Screen tab.
                      > Select Full-screen by clicking the circle next to it.
                      > Click the Misc tab.
                      > Remove the check mark next to Allow Screen Saver.
                      > In the Idle sensitivity box, move the slider bar all the way to the
                      > left.
                      > In the Windows shortcut keys area, remove the check mark next to
                      > Alt+Enter.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Click Apply, and then click OK.
                      > Open My Computer, and then double-click the C: drive.
                      > Double-click the PAS folder.
                      > Double-click the Pasetup.txt file.
                      > Find the line DRIVED=CD-ROM (Caddy/Cartridge) .
                      > Note: The line could read differently, depending on the letter of the
                      > CD-ROM drive and the type, such as DRIVEE=CD-ROM (Drawer/Tray) .
                      > Change the last part to read CD-ROM (Generic).
                      > Note: This line is case sensitive.
                      > Click File, click Save, and close the window.
                      > Double-click the Pas.ini file.
                      > Find the line D=CD-ROM (Caddy/Cartridge) .
                      > Note: The line could read differently, depending on the letter of the
                      > CD-ROM drive and the type, such as DRIVEE=CD-ROM (Drawer/Tray) .
                      > Change the last part to read CD-ROM (Generic).
                      > Note: This line is case sensitive.
                      > Click File, click Save, and close the window.
                      > Drag the MS-DOS Prompt icon that was created in step 9 into the
                      > Recycle Bin, and empty the Recycle Bin.
                      > Note: As you run the program, you may get a pop-up window every time
                      > you insert a CD that asks what you want to do with it. This is a
                      > function of Windows XP. Please refer to the Windows help files for
                      > information on how to correct this.
                      >
                      >
                      > Regards
                      > Dave Cottrell
                      > FHC Director, Poole England Stake.
                      >


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