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Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server

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  • usuhamlet_2001
    Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could anyone offer suggestions? I tried
    Message 1 of 12 , Dec 5, 2007
      Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and
      eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could anyone
      offer suggestions?

      I tried running setup.exe in compatability mode and it just returned
      the message that the program could not recognize the server (Something
      along those lines. As usual I forgot to write down the exact message.)

      Any help or suggestions would be welcome.

      Thank you.

      Robert Holloway
    • Russell Hltn
      I assume you re talking about FamilySearch (DOS). The program itself doesn t run on the server, it just needs file storage that s mapped as a drive. I don t
      Message 2 of 12 , Dec 5, 2007
        I assume you're talking about FamilySearch (DOS). The program itself
        doesn't run on the server, it just needs file storage that's mapped as
        a drive.

        I don't think there's a program to load the CDs on the server. You
        just copy them up there. Check the www.fhctech.org site for details.

        As for the client side, because it's just a DOS program, you can copy
        the files from a working system to a new system, fix up the short cuts
        and be good to go. The older FS disks won't run on XP, but SLC has a
        newer install CD that will. You should give them a call if you need
        it.


        On Dec 5, 2007 12:39 PM, usuhamlet_2001 <usuhamlet_2001@...> wrote:
        > Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and
        > eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could anyone
        > offer suggestions?
        >
        > I tried running setup.exe in compatability mode and it just returned
        > the message that the program could not recognize the server (Something
        > along those lines. As usual I forgot to write down the exact message.)
        >
        > Any help or suggestions would be welcome.
        >
        > Thank you.
        >
        > Robert Holloway
        >
        >
        >
        > Home Page: http://fhctech.org/
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      • Rick Klemetson
        Russell, Which version doesn t run on XP? Which version do they send out to you that does work? Rick _____ From: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
        Message 3 of 12 , Dec 5, 2007

          Russell,

          Which version doesn’t run on XP?

          Which version do they send out to you that does work?

          Rick

           


          From: fhctech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Russell Hltn
          Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:56 PM
          To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [fhctech] Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server

           

          I assume you're talking about FamilySearch (DOS). The program itself
          doesn't run on the server, it just needs file storage that's mapped as
          a drive.

          I don't think there's a program to load the CDs on the server. You
          just copy them up there. Check the www.fhctech. org site for details.

          As for the client side, because it's just a DOS program, you can copy
          the files from a working system to a new system, fix up the short cuts
          and be good to go. The older FS disks won't run on XP, but SLC has a
          newer install CD that will. You should give them a call if you need
          it.

          On Dec 5, 2007 12:39 PM, usuhamlet_2001 <usuhamlet_2001@ yahoo.com> wrote:

          > Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and
          > eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could anyone
          > offer suggestions?
          >
          > I tried running setup.exe in compatability mode and it just returned
          > the message that the program could not recognize the server (Something
          > along those lines. As usual I forgot to write down the exact message.)
          >
          > Any help or suggestions would be welcome.
          >
          > Thank you.
          >
          > Robert Holloway
          >
          >
          >
          > Home Page: http://fhctech. org/
          > Community email addresses:
          > Post message: fhctech@yahoogroups .com
          > Subscribe: fhctech-subscribe@ yahoogroups. com
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          > List owner: Rick@Klemetson. com
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          >
          >
          >

        • Dan
          Robert, the programs shouldn t really be installed on the server. They may be stored on the server for installation on workstations, but it doesn t make sense
          Message 4 of 12 , Dec 5, 2007
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            Robert, the programs shouldn't really be installed on the server. They may be stored on the server for installation on workstations, but it doesn't make sense to actually install and run the programs on the server itself. Windows 2003 Server does not make a good workstation, it is intended to be a pure server only. You will run into many compatability problems trying to install ordinary programs that are intended for Win XP onto your Win2003 server. You can serve files and applications off of the win 2003 server just fine, but trying to RUN XP applications on the server will give you a lot of headaches, and you will frequently need to buy (at HIGH prices) special versions of the programs that will run on win2003. For instance, running Acronis to keep backup images of your workstations is a good idea. The XP version of Acronis is something like $60, but if you want the Win2003 version, it's over $500... and if you try to install the XP version on your 2003 server, it will error out and refuse to install, and advise you to buy the Win 2003 version.
             
            If you want the computer to function as both a workstation and a server, such as in a small network of 2-9 computers, you should run Windows XP on the computer. It will function as a file server and a workstation at the same time just fine, and it's much simpler to maintain.
             
            If your network is large enough to truly justify a server (10 or more computers), then you really have no business trying to run applications on your server and trying to make it do double duty as a workstation and a server.
             
            Perhaps if you could explain a little more about what your network consists of, and what you are trying to accomplish by running your server as a workstation, we could offer better advice. Our FHC runs a Win 2003 server with a network that floats between 12 and 20 computers, and even at that, I personally think running a win 2003 server for this small of a network, particularly considering the light load that a FHC puts on the server, is total overkill. I inherited this network, and so I maintain it like it is, but I think that running a win 2003 server in this application is like using a sledge hammer to drive a tack. Maybe you inherited something similar, and are trying to deal with it as best you can.
             
            If your network is small (less than 10 computers) I would seriously consider stripping the win2003 off the machine and installing XP Pro... Salt Lake has a disk they will send you to do that, and they will pay for the licensing... contact Mike Provard at HQ support to get a copy of the XP install disk... this is NOT the same as the Image disks you see mentioned here.... it is a true XP install disk. Contact Mike for details if you decide to go this route.
             
            Dan Vester
            Technology Specialist
            Prescott Az FHC
             
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: fhctech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of usuhamlet_2001
            Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:40 PM
            To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [fhctech] Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server

            Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and
            eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could anyone
            offer suggestions?

            I tried running setup.exe in compatability mode and it just returned
            the message that the program could not recognize the server (Something
            along those lines. As usual I forgot to write down the exact message.)

            Any help or suggestions would be welcome.

            Thank you.

            Robert Holloway



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          • Russell Hltn
            I don t recall the version. The program itself hasn t changed, it s the configuration/installation program that won t run in WinXP. If you try to run it and
            Message 5 of 12 , Dec 5, 2007
              I don't recall the version. The program itself hasn't changed, it's
              the configuration/installation program that won't run in WinXP. If
              you try to run it and it dies, it's the bad one. ;) The problem is it
              queries the OS to see what version it is and then dies when it doesn't
              understand WinXP version. Then fix was probably nothing more then a
              few lines of code to understand XP.

              The install program will run on Win2000, so you can install it on a
              Win2000 box and just copy the C:\PAS folder to the WinXP box and it
              will run.


              On Dec 5, 2007 5:46 PM, Rick Klemetson <Rick@...> wrote:
              > Russell,
              >
              > Which version doesn't run on XP?
              >
              > Which version do they send out to you that does work?
              >
              > Rick
            • Gary Templeman
              The FamilySearch version itself is unchanged. The XP installation disk just has a revised script that allows it to run on XP (and AFAIK works with earlier
              Message 6 of 12 , Dec 5, 2007
                The FamilySearch version itself is unchanged. The XP installation disk just
                has a revised script that allows it to run on XP (and AFAIK works with
                earlier Windows OS's too), plus it facilitates the configuration of network
                setup.

                Gary Templeman



                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "Rick Klemetson" <Rick@...>
                To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:46 PM
                Subject: RE: [fhctech] Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server


                > Russell,
                >
                > Which version doesn't run on XP?
                >
                > Which version do they send out to you that does work?
                >
                > Rick
                >
                >
                >
                > _____
                >
                > From: fhctech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                > Of
                > Russell Hltn
                > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:56 PM
                > To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: Re: [fhctech] Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server
                >
                >
                >
                > I assume you're talking about FamilySearch (DOS). The program itself
                > doesn't run on the server, it just needs file storage that's mapped as
                > a drive.
                >
                > I don't think there's a program to load the CDs on the server. You
                > just copy them up there. Check the www.fhctech.org site for details.
                >
                > As for the client side, because it's just a DOS program, you can copy
                > the files from a working system to a new system, fix up the short cuts
                > and be good to go. The older FS disks won't run on XP, but SLC has a
                > newer install CD that will. You should give them a call if you need
                > it.
                >
                > On Dec 5, 2007 12:39 PM, usuhamlet_2001 <usuhamlet_2001@
                > <mailto:usuhamlet_2001%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com> wrote:
                >> Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and
                >> eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could anyone
                >> offer suggestions?
                >>
                >> I tried running setup.exe in compatability mode and it just returned
                >> the message that the program could not recognize the server (Something
                >> along those lines. As usual I forgot to write down the exact message.)
                >>
                >> Any help or suggestions would be welcome.
                >>
                >> Thank you.
                >>
                >> Robert Holloway
                >>
                >>
                >>
                >> Home Page: http://fhctech. <http://fhctech.org/> org/
                >> Community email addresses:
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              • usuhamlet_2001
                I don t need Server 2003 to run as a workstation. I did inherit the setup and I am trying to get things up and running on the network. There are more than 10
                Message 7 of 12 , Dec 6, 2007
                  I don't need Server 2003 to run as a workstation. I did inherit the
                  setup and I am trying to get things up and running on the network.
                  There are more than 10 computers (around 20) on the network.

                  I guess my biggest question is how to store the programs on the server
                  so that the workstations can install them and access the information
                  without needing to worry about passing around CDs.

                  Do I just copy the install CD to the server and then access the
                  setup.exe file on the workstations? Would I then copy all of the
                  database information onto the server and somehow setup the
                  workstations to access the server for information rather than CDs?

                  Thank you very much for your response and help. I am very new at this
                  kind of setup.

                  Robert Holloway

                  --- In fhctech@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" <dvester@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Robert, the programs shouldn't really be installed on the server.
                  They may
                  > be stored on the server for installation on workstations, but it doesn't
                  > make sense to actually install and run the programs on the server
                  itself.
                  > Windows 2003 Server does not make a good workstation, it is intended
                  to be a
                  > pure server only. You will run into many compatability problems
                  trying to
                  > install ordinary programs that are intended for Win XP onto your Win2003
                  > server. You can serve files and applications off of the win 2003
                  server just
                  > fine, but trying to RUN XP applications on the server will give you
                  a lot of
                  > headaches, and you will frequently need to buy (at HIGH prices) special
                  > versions of the programs that will run on win2003. For instance, running
                  > Acronis to keep backup images of your workstations is a good idea.
                  The XP
                  > version of Acronis is something like $60, but if you want the Win2003
                  > version, it's over $500... and if you try to install the XP version
                  on your
                  > 2003 server, it will error out and refuse to install, and advise you
                  to buy
                  > the Win 2003 version.
                  >
                  > If you want the computer to function as both a workstation and a server,
                  > such as in a small network of 2-9 computers, you should run Windows
                  XP on
                  > the computer. It will function as a file server and a workstation at the
                  > same time just fine, and it's much simpler to maintain.
                  >
                  > If your network is large enough to truly justify a server (10 or more
                  > computers), then you really have no business trying to run
                  applications on
                  > your server and trying to make it do double duty as a workstation and a
                  > server.
                  >
                  > Perhaps if you could explain a little more about what your network
                  consists
                  > of, and what you are trying to accomplish by running your server as a
                  > workstation, we could offer better advice. Our FHC runs a Win 2003
                  server
                  > with a network that floats between 12 and 20 computers, and even at
                  that, I
                  > personally think running a win 2003 server for this small of a network,
                  > particularly considering the light load that a FHC puts on the
                  server, is
                  > total overkill. I inherited this network, and so I maintain it like
                  it is,
                  > but I think that running a win 2003 server in this application is
                  like using
                  > a sledge hammer to drive a tack. Maybe you inherited something
                  similar, and
                  > are trying to deal with it as best you can.
                  >
                  > If your network is small (less than 10 computers) I would seriously
                  consider
                  > stripping the win2003 off the machine and installing XP Pro... Salt
                  Lake has
                  > a disk they will send you to do that, and they will pay for the
                  licensing...
                  > contact Mike Provard at HQ support to get a copy of the XP install
                  disk...
                  > this is NOT the same as the Image disks you see mentioned here....
                  it is a
                  > true XP install disk. Contact Mike for details if you decide to go this
                  > route.
                  >
                  > Dan Vester
                  > Technology Specialist
                  > Prescott Az FHC
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: fhctech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups.com] On
                  Behalf Of
                  > usuhamlet_2001
                  > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:40 PM
                  > To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: [fhctech] Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and
                  > eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could anyone
                  > offer suggestions?
                  >
                  > I tried running setup.exe in compatability mode and it just returned
                  > the message that the program could not recognize the server (Something
                  > along those lines. As usual I forgot to write down the exact message.)
                  >
                  > Any help or suggestions would be welcome.
                  >
                  > Thank you.
                  >
                  > Robert Holloway
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
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                  >
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                • Russell Hltn
                  ... I wouldn t. If you want install files, then I d install one computer, then copy the PAS directory and icons to the server to copy back down on the other
                  Message 8 of 12 , Dec 6, 2007
                    On Dec 6, 2007 9:44 AM, usuhamlet_2001 <usuhamlet_2001@...> wrote:
                    > Do I just copy the install CD to the server and then access the
                    > setup.exe file on the workstations?

                    I wouldn't. If you want install files, then I'd install one computer,
                    then copy the PAS directory and icons to the server to copy back down
                    on the other workstations. Again, this is a DOS program - no
                    registry, not files in the Windows directory, just plain dumb old DOS.
                    Keep in the CD around to run the configuration program if needed at a
                    later date. You'll need it so rarely, it's not a issue to keep it on
                    the CD.

                    > Would I then copy all of the
                    > database information onto the server and somehow setup the
                    > workstations to access the server for information rather than CDs?

                    Yes.

                    Details at http://www.fhctech.org/fhc/applications/fs.htm
                  • Gary Templeman
                    I would add however that for some of other programs, such as the Freedman s Bank records and such, having the entire CD including the setup program on the
                    Message 9 of 12 , Dec 6, 2007
                      I would add however that for some of other programs, such as the Freedman's
                      Bank records and such, having the entire CD including the setup program on
                      the server makes for easy workstation installations. Map the drive and run
                      the installation across the network and all of the INI or registry settings
                      for accessing the data on the server and not the CD get created
                      automatically.

                      Gary Templeman

                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: "Russell Hltn" <RussellHltn@...>
                      To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
                      Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:36 PM
                      Subject: Re: [fhctech] Re: Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server


                      > On Dec 6, 2007 9:44 AM, usuhamlet_2001 <usuhamlet_2001@...> wrote:
                      >> Do I just copy the install CD to the server and then access the
                      >> setup.exe file on the workstations?
                      >
                      > I wouldn't. If you want install files, then I'd install one computer,
                      > then copy the PAS directory and icons to the server to copy back down
                      > on the other workstations. Again, this is a DOS program - no
                      > registry, not files in the Windows directory, just plain dumb old DOS.
                      > Keep in the CD around to run the configuration program if needed at a
                      > later date. You'll need it so rarely, it's not a issue to keep it on
                      > the CD.
                      >
                      >> Would I then copy all of the
                      >> database information onto the server and somehow setup the
                      >> workstations to access the server for information rather than CDs?
                      >
                      > Yes.
                      >
                      > Details at http://www.fhctech.org/fhc/applications/fs.htm
                      >
                      >
                      > Home Page: http://fhctech.org/
                      > Community email addresses:
                      > Post message: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                      > Subscribe: fhctech-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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                      > List owner: Rick@...
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                      >
                    • Rick Klemetson
                      Robert, Where are you located? There may be another center close enough to provide some assistance. You may also be able to receive a USB hard drive that
                      Message 10 of 12 , Dec 7, 2007

                        Robert,

                        Where are you located? There may be another center close enough to provide some assistance.

                        You may also be able to receive a USB hard drive that already has all the CD’s copied to it, so it will save you many hours copying each CD in the correct location.

                        Rick Klemetson

                         


                        From: fhctech@yahoogroups.com [mailto: fhctech@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of usuhamlet_2001
                        Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 12:44 PM
                        To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: [fhctech] Re: Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server

                         

                        I don't need Server 2003 to run as a workstation. I did inherit the
                        setup and I am trying to get things up and running on the network.
                        There are more than 10 computers (around 20) on the network.

                        I guess my biggest question is how to store the programs on the server
                        so that the workstations can install them and access the information
                        without needing to worry about passing around CDs.

                        Do I just copy the install CD to the server and then access the
                        setup.exe file on the workstations? Would I then copy all of the
                        database information onto the server and somehow setup the
                        workstations to access the server for information rather than CDs?

                        Thank you very much for your response and help. I am very new at this
                        kind of setup.

                        Robert Holloway

                        --- In fhctech@yahoogroups .com, "Dan" <dvester@... > wrote:

                        >
                        > Robert, the programs shouldn't really be installed on the server.
                        They may
                        > be stored on the server for installation on workstations, but it doesn't
                        > make sense to actually install and run the programs on the server
                        itself.
                        > Windows 2003 Server does not make a good workstation, it is intended
                        to be a
                        > pure server only. You will run into many compatability problems
                        trying to
                        > install ordinary programs that are intended for Win XP onto your Win2003
                        > server. You can serve files and applications off of the win 2003
                        server just
                        > fine, but trying to RUN XP applications on the server will give you
                        a lot of
                        > headaches, and you will frequently need to buy (at HIGH prices) special
                        > versions of the programs that will run on win2003. For instance, running
                        > Acronis to keep backup images of your workstations is a good idea.
                        The XP
                        > version of Acronis is something like $60, but if you want the Win2003
                        > version, it's over $500... and if you try to install the XP version
                        on your
                        > 2003 server, it will error out and refuse to install, and advise you
                        to buy
                        > the Win 2003 version.
                        >
                        > If you want the computer to function as both a workstation and a server,
                        > such as in a small network of 2-9 computers, you should run Windows
                        XP on
                        > the computer. It will function as a file server and a workstation at the
                        > same time just fine, and it's much simpler to maintain.
                        >
                        > If your network is large enough to truly justify a server (10 or more
                        > computers), then you really have no business trying to run
                        applications on
                        > your server and trying to make it do double duty as a workstation and a
                        > server.
                        >
                        > Perhaps if you could explain a little more about what your network
                        consists
                        > of, and what you are trying to accomplish by running your server as a
                        > workstation, we could offer better advice. Our FHC runs a Win 2003
                        server
                        > with a network that floats between 12 and 20 computers, and even at
                        that, I
                        > personally think running a win 2003 server for this small of a network,
                        > particularly considering the light load that a FHC puts on the
                        server, is
                        > total overkill. I inherited this network, and so I maintain it like
                        it is,
                        > but I think that running a win 2003 server in this application is
                        like using
                        > a sledge hammer to drive a tack. Maybe you inherited something
                        similar, and
                        > are trying to deal with it as best you can.
                        >
                        > If your network is small (less than 10 computers) I would seriously
                        consider
                        > stripping the win2003 off the machine and installing XP Pro... Salt
                        Lake has
                        > a disk they will send you to do that, and they will pay for the
                        licensing...
                        > contact Mike Provard at HQ support to get a copy of the XP install
                        disk...
                        > this is NOT the same as the Image disks you see mentioned here....
                        it is a
                        > true XP install disk. Contact Mike for details if you decide to go this
                        > route.
                        >
                        > Dan Vester
                        > Technology Specialist
                        > Prescott
                        w:st="on">Az FHC
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > -----Original Message-----
                        > From: fhctech@yahoogroups .com
                        [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups .com] On
                        Behalf Of
                        > usuhamlet_2001
                        > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:40 PM
                        > To: fhctech@yahoogroups .com
                        > Subject: [fhctech] Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and
                        > eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could anyone
                        > offer suggestions?
                        >
                        > I tried running setup.exe in compatability mode and it just returned
                        > the message that the program could not recognize the server (Something
                        > along those lines. As usual I forgot to write down the exact message.)
                        >
                        > Any help or suggestions would be welcome.
                        >
                        > Thank you.
                        >
                        > Robert Holloway
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > __________ NOD32 2705 (20071205) Information __________
                        >
                        > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
                        > http://www.eset. com
                        >

                      • Bill Henderson
                        Yes, just copy the CDs into a volume on the server (maybe call it Setups), make that volume sharable and map the workstations to that share. Russell and a
                        Message 11 of 12 , Dec 7, 2007
                          Yes, just copy the CDs into a volume on the server (maybe call it Setups), make that volume sharable and map the workstations to that share.  Russell and a couple others have good advice but one fellow didn't understand that you already have a 2003 server and don't need the "master" workstation that pretends to be a server.  Among the many things a server can do is by a File server as well as an Application server.  What you want to do with most of the applications is install them on the workstations (probably already done) and use the server to provide file services (be the data store for the network). 
                           
                          Now SETUPS is just the location where the raw programs are stored where the workstations can get to them to setup their own applications.  You should have another file server volume (name it Vol1, or whatever you like) and store all the data CDs on that.  About 350 gigabytes should be enough for Vol1 these are also shared to let the workstations connect to them, then map the workstations to the various data stores in Vol1.  Some of the software on the workstations can only recognize a drive letter, while others can recognize the server's share and path names.  My FHC just has the workstations look for drive letters and let the server setup the volume and path name as a share name (igi, prf, etc) which the workstations will see as an individual drive and can then map to them as drive letters.
                           
                          Hope this helps,
                          Bill H.  Santa Clara FHC

                          usuhamlet_2001 <usuhamlet_2001@...> wrote:
                          I don't need Server 2003 to run as a workstation. I did inherit the
                          setup and I am trying to get things up and running on the network.
                          There are more than 10 computers (around 20) on the network.

                          I guess my biggest question is how to store the programs on the server
                          so that the workstations can install them and access the information
                          without needing to worry about passing around CDs.

                          Do I just copy the install CD to the server and then access the
                          setup.exe file on the workstations? Would I then copy all of the
                          database information onto the server and somehow setup the
                          workstations to access the server for information rather than CDs?

                          Thank you very much for your response and help. I am very new at this
                          kind of setup.

                          Robert Holloway

                          --- In fhctech@yahoogroups .com, "Dan" <dvester@... > wrote:
                          >
                          > Robert, the programs shouldn't really be installed on the server.
                          They may
                          > be stored on the server for installation on workstations, but it doesn't
                          > make sense to actually install and run the programs on the server
                          itself.
                          > Windows 2003 Server does not make a good workstation, it is intended
                          to be a
                          > pure server only. You will run into many compatability problems
                          trying to
                          > install ordinary programs that are intended for Win XP onto your Win2003
                          > server. You can serve files and applications off of the win 2003
                          server just
                          > fine, but trying to RUN XP applications on the server will give you
                          a lot of
                          > headaches, and you will frequently need to buy (at HIGH prices) special
                          > versions of the programs that will run on win2003. For instance, running
                          > Acronis to keep backup images of your workstations is a good idea.
                          The XP
                          > version of Acronis is something like $60, but if you want the Win2003
                          > version, it's over $500... and if you try to install the XP version
                          on your
                          > 2003 server, it will error out and refuse to install, and advise you
                          to buy
                          > the Win 2003 version.
                          >
                          > If you want the computer to function as both a workstation and a server,
                          > such as in a small network of 2-9 computers, you should run Windows
                          XP on
                          > the computer. It will function as a file server and a workstation at the
                          > same time just fine, and it's much simpler to maintain.
                          >
                          > If your network is large enough to truly justify a server (10 or more
                          > computers), then you really have no business trying to run
                          applications on
                          > your server and trying to make it do double duty as a workstation and a
                          > server.
                          >
                          > Perhaps if you could explain a little more about what your network
                          consists
                          > of, and what you are trying to accomplish by running your server as a
                          > workstation, we could offer better advice. Our FHC runs a Win 2003
                          server
                          > with a network that floats between 12 and 20 computers, and even at
                          that, I
                          > personally think running a win 2003 server for this small of a network,
                          > particularly considering the light load that a FHC puts on the
                          server, is
                          > total overkill. I inherited this network, and so I maintain it like
                          it is,
                          > but I think that running a win 2003 server in this application is
                          like using
                          > a sledge hammer to drive a tack. Maybe you inherited something
                          similar, and
                          > are trying to deal with it as best you can.
                          >
                          > If your network is small (less than 10 computers) I would seriously
                          consider
                          > stripping the win2003 off the machine and installing XP Pro... Salt
                          Lake has
                          > a disk they will send you to do that, and they will pay for the
                          licensing...
                          > contact Mike Provard at HQ support to get a copy of the XP install
                          disk...
                          > this is NOT the same as the Image disks you see mentioned here....
                          it is a
                          > true XP install disk. Contact Mike for details if you decide to go this
                          > route.
                          >
                          > Dan Vester
                          > Technology Specialist
                          > Prescott Az FHC
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > -----Original Message-----
                          > From: fhctech@yahoogroups .com [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups .com] On
                          Behalf Of
                          > usuhamlet_2001
                          > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:40 PM
                          > To: fhctech@yahoogroups .com
                          > Subject: [fhctech] Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and
                          > eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could anyone
                          > offer suggestions?
                          >
                          > I tried running setup.exe in compatability mode and it just returned
                          > the message that the program could not recognize the server (Something
                          > along those lines. As usual I forgot to write down the exact message.)
                          >
                          > Any help or suggestions would be welcome.
                          >
                          > Thank you.
                          >
                          > Robert Holloway
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
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                          I am located in Logan, UT and I have couple of people that work at another FHC here in Logan and apparently have this setup and running currently. I will
                          Message 12 of 12 , Dec 11, 2007
                            I am located in Logan, UT and I have couple of people that work at
                            another FHC here in Logan and apparently have this setup and running
                            currently. I will contact them and see if I can get over and view
                            there server/workstation setup. Thank you for your help. I will
                            definitely keep all the advice in mind.

                            Thank you again.

                            Robert Holloway

                            --- In fhctech@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Klemetson" <Rick@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Robert,
                            >
                            > Where are you located? There may be another center close enough to
                            provide
                            > some assistance.
                            >
                            > You may also be able to receive a USB hard drive that already has
                            all the
                            > CD's copied to it, so it will save you many hours copying each CD in the
                            > correct location.
                            >
                            > Rick Klemetson
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > _____
                            >
                            > From: fhctech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups.com] On
                            Behalf Of
                            > usuhamlet_2001
                            > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 12:44 PM
                            > To: fhctech@yahoogroups.com
                            > Subject: [fhctech] Re: Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > I don't need Server 2003 to run as a workstation. I did inherit the
                            > setup and I am trying to get things up and running on the network.
                            > There are more than 10 computers (around 20) on the network.
                            >
                            > I guess my biggest question is how to store the programs on the server
                            > so that the workstations can install them and access the information
                            > without needing to worry about passing around CDs.
                            >
                            > Do I just copy the install CD to the server and then access the
                            > setup.exe file on the workstations? Would I then copy all of the
                            > database information onto the server and somehow setup the
                            > workstations to access the server for information rather than CDs?
                            >
                            > Thank you very much for your response and help. I am very new at this
                            > kind of setup.
                            >
                            > Robert Holloway
                            >
                            > --- In fhctech@yahoogroups <mailto:fhctech%40yahoogroups.com> .com,
                            "Dan"
                            > <dvester@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Robert, the programs shouldn't really be installed on the server.
                            > They may
                            > > be stored on the server for installation on workstations, but it
                            doesn't
                            > > make sense to actually install and run the programs on the server
                            > itself.
                            > > Windows 2003 Server does not make a good workstation, it is intended
                            > to be a
                            > > pure server only. You will run into many compatability problems
                            > trying to
                            > > install ordinary programs that are intended for Win XP onto your
                            Win2003
                            > > server. You can serve files and applications off of the win 2003
                            > server just
                            > > fine, but trying to RUN XP applications on the server will give you
                            > a lot of
                            > > headaches, and you will frequently need to buy (at HIGH prices)
                            special
                            > > versions of the programs that will run on win2003. For instance,
                            running
                            > > Acronis to keep backup images of your workstations is a good idea.
                            > The XP
                            > > version of Acronis is something like $60, but if you want the Win2003
                            > > version, it's over $500... and if you try to install the XP version
                            > on your
                            > > 2003 server, it will error out and refuse to install, and advise you
                            > to buy
                            > > the Win 2003 version.
                            > >
                            > > If you want the computer to function as both a workstation and a
                            server,
                            > > such as in a small network of 2-9 computers, you should run Windows
                            > XP on
                            > > the computer. It will function as a file server and a workstation
                            at the
                            > > same time just fine, and it's much simpler to maintain.
                            > >
                            > > If your network is large enough to truly justify a server (10 or more
                            > > computers), then you really have no business trying to run
                            > applications on
                            > > your server and trying to make it do double duty as a workstation
                            and a
                            > > server.
                            > >
                            > > Perhaps if you could explain a little more about what your network
                            > consists
                            > > of, and what you are trying to accomplish by running your server as a
                            > > workstation, we could offer better advice. Our FHC runs a Win 2003
                            > server
                            > > with a network that floats between 12 and 20 computers, and even at
                            > that, I
                            > > personally think running a win 2003 server for this small of a
                            network,
                            > > particularly considering the light load that a FHC puts on the
                            > server, is
                            > > total overkill. I inherited this network, and so I maintain it like
                            > it is,
                            > > but I think that running a win 2003 server in this application is
                            > like using
                            > > a sledge hammer to drive a tack. Maybe you inherited something
                            > similar, and
                            > > are trying to deal with it as best you can.
                            > >
                            > > If your network is small (less than 10 computers) I would seriously
                            > consider
                            > > stripping the win2003 off the machine and installing XP Pro... Salt
                            > Lake has
                            > > a disk they will send you to do that, and they will pay for the
                            > licensing...
                            > > contact Mike Provard at HQ support to get a copy of the XP install
                            > disk...
                            > > this is NOT the same as the Image disks you see mentioned here....
                            > it is a
                            > > true XP install disk. Contact Mike for details if you decide to go
                            this
                            > > route.
                            > >
                            > > Dan Vester
                            > > Technology Specialist
                            > > Prescott Az FHC
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > -----Original Message-----
                            > > From: fhctech@yahoogroups <mailto:fhctech%40yahoogroups.com> .com
                            > [mailto:fhctech@yahoogroups <mailto:fhctech%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
                            > Behalf Of
                            > > usuhamlet_2001
                            > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:40 PM
                            > > To: fhctech@yahoogroups <mailto:fhctech%40yahoogroups.com> .com
                            > > Subject: [fhctech] Installing Family Search on Windows 2003 Server
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Has anyone had experience with installing Family Search (and
                            > > eventually other programs) onto a Windows 2003 server? Or Could
                            anyone
                            > > offer suggestions?
                            > >
                            > > I tried running setup.exe in compatability mode and it just returned
                            > > the message that the program could not recognize the server
                            (Something
                            > > along those lines. As usual I forgot to write down the exact message.)
                            > >
                            > > Any help or suggestions would be welcome.
                            > >
                            > > Thank you.
                            > >
                            > > Robert Holloway
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
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