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  • Gary Templeman
    Actually, the Church is also sending out Windows XP Pro images, which, while only certified to work on certain models, will actually install just fine on most
    Message 1 of 10 , Dec 8, 2006
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      Actually, the Church is also sending out Windows XP Pro images, which, while
      only certified to work on certain models, will actually install just fine on
      most any newer computer. XP Pro will allow up to 10 client connections and
      if your computer has the horsepower, may be a better option than W2K.

      Gary Templeman

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      From: "si02x" <akjtr@...>
      To: <fhctech@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:28 PM
      Subject: [fhctech] Now I need more advice


      > In looking around the network here, someone installed windows server
      > 2003 on the server and I believe we do not own a license and I'm not
      > willing to ask for a $1000 for a 3 workstation network. Is it a
      > reasonable solution to get another box to use as a print server and
      > storage and just run something like a peer to peer?
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    • eauga2000
      ... As a matter of symantics, there is a difference between a Windows Server and a Windows File Server . A Windows Server typically runs Windows server
      Message 2 of 10 , Dec 8, 2006
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        --- In fhctech@yahoogroups.com, "si02x" <akjtr@...> wrote:
        >
        > In looking around the network here, someone installed windows server
        > 2003 on the server and I believe we do not own a license and I'm not
        > willing to ask for a $1000 for a 3 workstation network. Is it a
        > reasonable solution to get another box to use as a print server and
        > storage and just run something like a peer to peer?
        >

        As a matter of symantics, there is a difference between a "Windows
        Server" and a "Windows File Server". A "Windows Server" typically
        runs Windows server 2003 software which is expensive and an overkill
        for any FHC to use unless they have a lot of client machines or the
        support person is a glutton for punishment.

        For small FHC installation, 1 to 10 clients, all that is needed is a
        system with a large drive and windows 2k or XP. There on, install the
        IGI for Temple Ready and the PRF.

        A Windows File Server is nothing more than a system which has it's
        harddrive shared amongst the clients on the LAN. So when discussing
        your requirements for the IGI and PRF repository, specify which kind
        of server your want, A Windows Server or a Windows File Server.
        Ed...
      • Bill Henderson
        I am sure someone already mentioned it, but we are not allowed to run bootleg software on our FHC computers. I was able to purchase Win2000 server on Ebay for
        Message 3 of 10 , Dec 12, 2006
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          I am sure someone already mentioned it, but we are not allowed to run bootleg software on our FHC computers.  I was able to purchase Win2000 server on Ebay for $150.  It isa still quite satisfactory and since it is last years model, good discounts can be found.  Can you install the Church's copy of Win2000 Professional (workstation OS) and use it as a data store and print server?  The simple answer is Yes.  Setup a peer-peer workgroup and have your research computers access the quasi-server for the services that you like.  Just remember, Win2000 professional limits network connections to a maximum of 10, including printservers and anything that contains a network connection (e.g. PIX firewall).
           
          Bill H.

          si02x <akjtr@...> wrote:
          In looking around the network here, someone installed windows server
          2003 on the server and I believe we do not own a license and I'm not
          willing to ask for a $1000 for a 3 workstation network. Is it a
          reasonable solution to get another box to use as a print server and
          storage and just run something like a peer to peer?



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        • Bill Henderson
          I think if you check, the computers with WinXP installed will have a WinXP authorized sticker attached to the PC s case. If the Church is sending them that
          Message 4 of 10 , Dec 12, 2006
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            I think if you check, the computers with WinXP installed will have a WinXP authorized sticker attached to the PC's case.  If the Church is sending them that way, you can be comfident they are licensed.
             
            Bill H.

            Gary Templeman <gtempleman1@...> wrote:
            Actually, the Church is also sending out Windows XP Pro images, which, while
            only certified to work on certain models, will actually install just fine on
            most any newer computer. XP Pro will allow up to 10 client connections and
            if your computer has the horsepower, may be a better option than W2K.

            Gary Templeman

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "si02x" <akjtr@hotmail. com>
            To: <fhctech@yahoogroups .com>
            Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:28 PM
            Subject: [fhctech] Now I need more advice

            > In looking around the network here, someone installed windows server
            > 2003 on the server and I believe we do not own a license and I'm not
            > willing to ask for a $1000 for a 3 workstation network. Is it a
            > reasonable solution to get another box to use as a print server and
            > storage and just run something like a peer to peer?
            >
            >
            >
            > Home Page: http://fhctech. org/
            > Community email addresses:
            > Post message: fhctech@yahoogroups .com
            > Subscribe: fhctech-subscribe@ yahoogroups. com
            > Unsubscribe: fhctech-unsubscribe @yahoogroups. com
            > List owner: Rick@Klemetson. com
            > Shortcut URL to Yahoo! group page:
            > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/fhctech
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            >
            >



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          • gtempleman1@comcast.net
            I didn t say computers the Church was sending out (which may have XP already installed), I was specifically talking about the image CDs or DVDs they will
            Message 5 of 10 , Dec 12, 2006
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              I didn't say "computers" the Church was sending out (which may have XP already installed), I was specifically talking about the image CDs or DVDs they will provide. The image disks CAN be used on existing computers without a sticker on them, however, the number of computers it is used on needs to be reported to support for them to count and pay for the licenses properly. The ones with the sticker are already licensed, even if they originally arrived with W2K .
               
              The other thing stated in the letter is that the image is only certified to work on specific models listed (that the Church has provided), but that it "should" work on most other newer computers.
               
              Gary
               
              -------------- Original message --------------
              From: Bill Henderson <wch3120@...>
              I think if you check, the computers with WinXP installed will have a WinXP authorized sticker attached to the PC's case.  If the Church is sending them that way, you can be comfident they are licensed.
               
              Bill H.

              Gary Templeman <gtempleman1@...> wrote:
              Actually, the Church is also sending out Windows XP Pro images, which, while
              only certified to work on certain models, will actually install just fine on
              most any newer computer. XP Pro will allow up to 10 client connections and
              if your computer has the horsepower, may be a better option than W2K.

              Gary Templeman

              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "si02x" <akjtr@hotmail. com>
              To: <fhctech@yahoogroups .com>
              Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:28 PM
              Subject: [fhctech] Now I need more advice

              > In looking around the network here, someone installed windows server
              > 2003 on the server and I believe we do not own a license and I'm not
              > willing to ask for a $1000 for a 3 workstation network. Is it a
              > reasonable solution to get another box to use as a print server and
              > storage and just run something like a peer to peer?
              >
              >
              >
              > Home Page: http://fhctech. org/
              > Community email addresses:
              > Post message: fhctech@yahoogroups .com
              > Subscribe: fhctech-subscribe@ yahoogroups. com
              > Unsubscribe: fhctech-unsubscribe @yahoogroups. com
              > List owner: Rick@Klemetson. com
              > Shortcut URL to Yahoo! group page:
              > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/fhctech
              > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >



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            • Ronald Frye
              Regarding the 1st paragraph from Bill Henderson, below, will Win XP work on a machine with the Built for Win 2000 logo? One of our donated machines has that
              Message 6 of 10 , Dec 12, 2006
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                Regarding the 1st paragraph from Bill Henderson, below, will Win XP work on a machine with the "Built for Win 2000" logo? One of our donated machines has that logo on the front of the case.
                 
                At one time we had a donated computer that had the "Built for Win XP" logo on the case, but it would not work correctly under Win 2000. The motherboard driver disk was for Win XP only, and there was NOT a Win 2000 version available from the manufacturer. We had to dump that computer; it just gave us too many problems.
                 
                Ronald W. Frye
                Danville, CA FHC Computer Specialist
                 
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:14 AM
                Subject: Re: [fhctech] Now I need more advice

                I think if you check, the computers with WinXP installed will have a WinXP authorized sticker attached to the PC's case.  If the Church is sending them that way, you can be comfident they are licensed.
                 
                Bill H.

                Gary Templeman <gtempleman1@ comcast.net> wrote:
                Actually, the Church is also sending out Windows XP Pro images, which, while
                only certified to work on certain models, will actually install just fine on
                most any newer computer. XP Pro will allow up to 10 client connections and
                if your computer has the horsepower, may be a better option than W2K.

                Gary Templeman

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "si02x" <akjtr@hotmail. com>
                To: <fhctech@yahoogroups .com>
                Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:28 PM
                Subject: [fhctech] Now I need more advice

                > In looking around the network here, someone installed windows server
                > 2003 on the server and I believe we do not own a license and I'm not
                > willing to ask for a $1000 for a 3 workstation network. Is it a
                > reasonable solution to get another box to use as a print server and
                > storage and just run something like a peer to peer?
                >
                >
                >
                > Home Page: http://fhctech. org/
                > Community email addresses:
                > Post message: fhctech@yahoogroups .com
                > Subscribe: fhctech-subscribe@ yahoogroups. com
                > Unsubscribe: fhctech-unsubscribe @yahoogroups. com
                > List owner: Rick@Klemetson. com
                > Shortcut URL to Yahoo! group page:
                > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/fhctech
                > Yahoo! Groups Links
                >
                >
                >



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              • Bill Henderson
                Mechanically speaking, ae computer should not care whether it uses W2K or XP or any other operating system designed for that processor and chipset (which to
                Message 7 of 10 , Dec 14, 2006
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                  Mechanically speaking, ae computer should not care whether it uses W2K or XP or any other operating system designed for that processor and chipset (which to us, means any Microsoft or Linux X86 OS).  The motherboard driver issue you mention is most probably a software or firmware issue which sounds as though it relates to the CD that comes with clone PCs and customizes certain subsystems for specific OS's and applications.  If you check the Internet for that motherboard or chipset, I believe you will find the appropriate software/firmware needed to let your PC install the OS you want.  You may also try to install the OS without using the motherboard drivers.  They should be generic enough to allow normal installation.  Since you are in Danville, I bet it was a Fry's special clone.
                   
                  Your greater concern is licensing.  Don't upgrade until the Church authorizes you to do so.
                   
                  Bill H.

                  Ronald Frye <ronfrye@...> wrote:
                  Regarding the 1st paragraph from Bill Henderson, below, will Win XP work on a machine with the "Built for Win 2000" logo? One of our donated machines has that logo on the front of the case.
                   
                  At one time we had a donated computer that had the "Built for Win XP" logo on the case, but it would not work correctly under Win 2000. The motherboard driver disk was for Win XP only, and there was NOT a Win 2000 version available from the manufacturer. We had to dump that computer; it just gave us too many problems.
                   
                  Ronald W. Frye
                  Danville, CA FHC Computer Specialist
                   
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:14 AM
                  Subject: Re: [fhctech] Now I need more advice

                  I think if you check, the computers with WinXP installed will have a WinXP authorized sticker attached to the PC's case.  If the Church is sending them that way, you can be comfident they are licensed.
                   
                  Bill H.

                  Gary Templeman <gtempleman1@ comcast.net> wrote:
                  Actually, the Church is also sending out Windows XP Pro images, which, while
                  only certified to work on certain models, will actually install just fine on
                  most any newer computer. XP Pro will allow up to 10 client connections and
                  if your computer has the horsepower, may be a better option than W2K.

                  Gary Templeman

                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: "si02x" <akjtr@hotmail. com>
                  To: <fhctech@yahoogroups .com>
                  Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:28 PM
                  Subject: [fhctech] Now I need more advice

                  > In looking around the network here, someone installed windows server
                  > 2003 on the server and I believe we do not own a license and I'm not
                  > willing to ask for a $1000 for a 3 workstation network. Is it a
                  > reasonable solution to get another box to use as a print server and
                  > storage and just run something like a peer to peer?
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Home Page: http://fhctech. org/
                  > Community email addresses:
                  > Post message: fhctech@yahoogroups .com
                  > Subscribe: fhctech-subscribe@ yahoogroups. com
                  > Unsubscribe: fhctech-unsubscribe @yahoogroups. com
                  > List owner: Rick@Klemetson. com
                  > Shortcut URL to Yahoo! group page:
                  > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/fhctech
                  > Yahoo! Groups Links
                  >
                  >
                  >



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