Re: [feyerabend-project] XP: Utopian Sub-culture wannabe
>My anthropologist wife assures me that XP is NOT a culture. What is it,I agree, 100%. But it could have a short future as somebody's cash cow,
>then. I'd say it's a "sub-culture wannabe."
>Correct - it won't be a true culture (sub or otherwise) without some sort of
>reflective self-identification as such.
>The real point of my assertion is that whatever future XP has it will be as a
>culture (religion?), not as a method.
while it's still in the fad stage.
>Now there's a marketing idea worthy of Microsoft or Apple.
>the enculturation process should be much simpler than you describe - but
>still not simple, and still requiring something like the residential
>community that you invoke.
>It would certainly start in a much simpler fashion - perhaps black golf
>shirts with an XP logo. ;)
>Yes, both of these are infected with other agendas. XP is to serve as a
>It's not clear that anyone is ready to step forward and create such a
>Probably not, although Ken Auer is trying in a very small way - but his
>efforts are subsumed in his Christian cultural identity and is not really the
>The MFA in software described by Richard Gabriel also has many of the
>elements - but notably absent the residential community.
means to something else - it's a fatal taint.
>Yes, it's right down the road, and solar powered. That should count for
>though the two of us reside in San Miquel, which might be a start.
>Yep, maybe we should buy the monastery just outside of Pecos and start
>That's about right. But no celibacy, okay?
>I would never imagine that one of these subcultures can completely replace
>the dominant culture and its major "management-driven" (actually,
>management-dragged) subcultures. And that's okay. We might, like so many
>other subcultures, be satisfied with a nice chunk in which people could live
>and make better things to sell to the dominant culture, as so many utopian
>sub-cultures have done.
>I agree. From my perspective something between the scale of the Amish and
>Hutterite communities and the Mormons would be a pretty good goal.
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>Attached is the PDF version.I liked it Dave -- I don't have comments yet -- I need to read it again, but it
has got me thinking.... (and wondering what all your statues look like).