184Re: [feyerabend-project] Re: Living Metaphor of Organizations (was RE: Grand challenge:Language evolution (Re: Autonomic email client?)
- Dec 3, 2001Joseph Bergin wrote:
>I totally agree with Joe. Especially when I read one of the proposed
> We realize of course that not knowing how to do something constrains what
> we can build. But we should also take the attitude that what should be
> built (what is ethical, desirable, human potential enhancing...) should
> also constrain how we build it.
characteristics of autonomic systems (at
"5. A virtual world is no less dangerous than the physical one, so an
autonomic computing system must be an expert in self-protection. It must
detect, identify and protect itself against various types of attacks to
maintain overall system security and integrity."
This makes me feel uneasy. Does "self-protection" include protection
against humans trying to manipulate/control/influence the system?
Where's the difference between an attempt at manipulation and an attack?
I am not thinking about extreme Terminator/Schwarzenegger (or HAL/Space
Oddissey, depending on what generation you belong to ;) scenarios here,
but, at least, there's a philosophical question involved: How much
"self-protection" do we have to achieve in order to really call a system
"self-protecting"? Is there a logical paradox involved - can we only
achieve true "self-protection", if this includes protection against
ourselves? Is this amoral?
Perhaps there's no logical paradox, but merely a contradiction in our
goal, trying to produce "independent" systems that, on the other hand,
should still do what we want. This contradiction might unconsciously
keep us from solving the inherent problems.
Of course, when talking about "self-protection", we naturally think of
"protection against bad things", while "ensuring good things". But this
is thinking in black and white, and I assume that things are much more
> Here I think we are fortunate that the social constraints also make it morePascal
> rather than less buildable. We do know how to build systems that learn from
> human feedback much better than completely autonomous _intelligent_ agents.
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