- Hi :-)

I had a brief look at google docs. I was not too impressed withe the

userfriendliness. I still did not find out how to make a named

folder or start sharing. Oh well, im sure it does work somehow :-P

Lars, if you need it ... my google (gmail) account =

per.kristen.fredlund

I agree with doing only the 10 mins format for now. I could probably

do 1 hr every week, but 10 mins only is more safe ;-) I can do 1

insertion within 5 minutes most of the time :D

-Per

> --- In fewestmoveschallenge@yahoogroups.com, "mirek_goljan"

<goljan@...> wrote:

>

am

> Hi gu(y)s,

> I agree with all good ideas you came up with the last week. I

> willing to get a Google account and fill in a shared excel

each

> spreadsheet that Lars wants to prepare. Ten consecutive FMC solved

> in 10 minutes should not be a problem to anybody while spending 1-

> hour every week could be a bit more difficult for some. I suggest

> that one can skip one week of two and catch up later. We trust

> other anyway and we agree not to work on (or look at others

recorded.

> solutions) any FMC until the 1-hour attempt is finished and

> So, 10 weeks, two longest and two shortest out of 10 solutions

will

> not be counted (for each contestant) in the final average of 6.

For

> Per, 12 would take 3 months, so we agree on 10, OK. We count in

HTM,

> i.e. B2 is one move, R'L are two moves. We can see later if other

B'

> metric would have helped somebody. For example, counting R F R' as

> one move (HaHa :-), just kidding).

> BTW, my last challenge in 10 minutes was not lucky again.

> L2 B' R2 L F D2 F' L2 F'_ L U L B' U' B L' F2 U2 F' U' F U' F2 D'

> U' B' R B R' U B L U' R U2 L' U L U2 L' R' (42 moves, in 7min

12sec).

> 1-hour: R' D' R' D. L2 U _ L2 F2 R' D F L' B D2 B' L' F B' U2 B2

F'

> L D L' D2 B', insert D' B D F' D' B' D F at the dot (32).

<guusrs@>

> Happy and lucky cubing!

> Mirek

>

>

> --- In fewestmoveschallenge@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Unless people are opposed to getting Google accounts, we could

> just

> > put the numbers in a shared online spreadsheet.

> >

> > http://docs.google.com/

> >

> > On Dec 30, 2007, at 10:53, per_fredlund wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Gu(u)s!!

> > >

> > > I'm a bit uncertain if you mean 10 weeks with best and worst

> deleted

> > > or 12 weeks with 10 counting entries ?? Best and worst wrt

> submitted

> > > lengths or wrt placement for that week?? Honestly i wish Ryan

> Heise

> > > would host those challenges. Just having results/entries

> floating in

> > > this group is very messy!! :D

> > >

> > > - Per

> > >

> > >> --- In fewestmoveschallenge@yahoogroups.com, "guusrs"

> > > wrote:

writing

> > >>

> > >> Hi Mirek & others,

> > >>

> > >> I agree, 5 minutes is too short, it's only turning and

> down

did

> > >> and almost no time to think. So this week (Dan's FMC 181) I

> 10

U'

> > >> minutes and 1 hour. These are my results:

> > >>

> > >> Scramble: D F' L R U' L2 R' D2 B2 F2 R' L B2 L2 U2 B2 D' B2

> D L

D

> > > U2

> > >> B2 R F2

> > >>

> > >> my solution 10min: 37 moves:

> > >> Pseudo 2x2x3: B2 F R' {U' D} R U2 B' (8)

> > >> Pseudo F2L: D' R' D2 R B' D' B R' D2 R D' F D F' (22)

> > >> LL edges: F' D' R' D R F (27)

> > >> LL Corners: F L F' R F L' F' R' (34)

> > >> undo pseudoness: D F2 U2 (37)

> > >>

> > >> 1hour solution: B2 F R' {U' D} R F' U B2 U' F U B2 U B' D R2

> R' D'

R

> > >> R' B R2 B' D' R' D R' D' R F2 U2 (32)

> > >> explanation:

> > >> pseudo 2x2x3: B2 F R' {U' D} R U2 . B' (8)

> > >> pseudo F2L + LL edges: D R2 D R' D' R' B R2 B' D' R' D R' D'

> (23)

and

> > >> undo pseudoness: F2 U2 (25)

> > >> at dot (after move 7) insert: F' U B2 U' F U B2 U'

> > >>

> > >> Shall we start a 10 week competition starting from FMC 182?

> > >> The rules I propose are: Best & worst two attemps doare

> cancelled ,

> > >> for the other 6 attemps the avarage is calculated. FMC-10min

> > >> FMC-1hour counted are seperately? Any suggestions on this?

is

> > >>

> > >> Happy Cubing;)

> > >>

> > >> Gus

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> --- In fewestmoveschallenge@yahoogroups.com, "mirek_goljan"

> > >> <goljan@> wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>> Hi,

> > >>> after starting with some 5-min practicing I knew 5 minutes

> too

of

> > >>> short for me when I have to write moves down. The best 2 out

> > >>> about 30 trials were below 30 and the worst were close to 50

L

> > > moves

> > >>> and over time.

> > >>> The FMC 180 I finished as one of the worst and over time as

> well.

> > >>> Then I tried it second time: D' U2 R2 F B R L U' B' L2 B' U2

> B

B

> > > L

> > >>> F' L2 F L' F' L F L(23) + 11 moves for the edge 3-cycle.

> > >>> In 1-hour span I did not find anything better than inserting

> this

> > > 3-

> > >>> cycle: D' U2 R2 F B R L U' B' L2 B' U2 L (U B F' L2 B' F U)

> L

> > > F'

> > >>> L2 F L' F' L F L (30).

> > >>> I would prefer to expand the 5-minutes to 10-minutes if you

> > > agree.

> > >>> Still just one trial, no moves taking back, time does not

> include

> > >>> scrambling but includes writing the solution down.

> > >>>

> > >>> Happy holiday!

> > >>> Mirek

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yahoo! Groups Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> - Hi :-)

My wording was a bit unclear. One does not really reply to the

automatic email being sent, one responds to a link sent. Still there

may be problems with the user not getting the email. I know this from

bitter experience :-( Also, is there not a security concern that such

a cookie is set without the users consent? I suggest making it

voluntary to set such a cookie. Getting away with passwords is s good

thing, it's only a matter of how to best do it ;-)

Have fun!!

-Per

> --- In fewestmoveschallenge@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Heise"

<forum@...> wrote:

>

you

> per wrote:

>

> > HI :-)

> >

> > get away with passwords how?? Everytime you submit you just give

> > your email address, then get a reply you have to reply to??

>

> Not quite, the scheme I have in mind is a bit more subtle than that.

> To login (or in words that are perhaps more enlightening, to

> "authenticate" yourself) you just type in your email address (no

> password). You will then be sent an email containing a secret URL.

> Click on it, and you're logged in. The next, and most essential part

> of the recipe is that a persistent cookie is then set which allows

> to remain logged in for months on end without having to

into

> re-authenticate, much in the same way that you may remain logged

> youtube.com without having to re-authenticate. This makes the actual

> authentication step a negligible since it only happens once, ever

> (practically), but the advantage is that if you ever do logout, then

> you don't need to remember that pesky password to log in again.

>

> --

> Ryan Heise http://www.ryanheise.com/

>