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  • brookeott
    I have been a member here for several months but have not posted before. We have assumed for two years that our aby has feline herpes. He has major
    Message 1 of 9 , Jun 29, 2013
      I have been a member here for several months but have not posted before. We have assumed for two years that our aby has feline herpes. He has major congestion, snotty sneezes and drippy eyes. Recently someone here mentioned a prc panel so I requested one from my vet. (BTW, it cost $104 which I thought was very reasonable given the fees we've incurred over the years.)

      We got the results yesterday. To everyone's surprise the herpes panel came back negative, as did all other tests except for one. He has tested positive for mycoplasma felis. Without this test being done we'd still be giving l-lysine (which has never worked) and famcyclovir.

      So we'll be starting doxycycline soon. The vet also suggested that he may have polyps and we may be referred to a specialist to check that out as well.

      So a huge thank you to whomever recommended this test. To finally have a definitive diagnosis has been worth its weight in gold!

      Susan
    • Diane
      That s great news! It cost me $203, what lab do they use? We just took a swab from Kali on Friday, but they called yesterday to say they also need 2 dry swabs,
      Message 2 of 9 , Jun 30, 2013
        That's great news! It cost me $203, what lab do they use?

        We just took a swab from Kali on Friday, but they called yesterday to
        say they also need 2 dry swabs, so I have to drop her off tomorrow
        for that.

        Kali is currently on Doxy and some nose drops. Her left nostril is
        still plugged and she's still losing weight, but her attitude has
        improved and she sounds much better AND her sneezing has greatly
        diminished.

        I think the PCR test I'm doing checks for 5 things. If this doesn't
        work, I think my olny other option is an MRI.

        Diane

        At 6:54 PM +0000 6/29/13, brookeott wrote:
        >I have been a member here for several months but have not posted
        >before. We have assumed for two years that our aby has feline
        >herpes. He has major congestion, snotty sneezes and drippy eyes.
        >Recently someone here mentioned a prc panel so I requested one from
        >my vet. (BTW, it cost $104 which I thought was very reasonable
        >given the fees we've incurred over the years.)
        >
        >We got the results yesterday. To everyone's surprise the herpes
        >panel came back negative, as did all other tests except for one. He
        >has tested positive for mycoplasma felis. Without this test being
        >done we'd still be giving l-lysine (which has never worked) and
        >famcyclovir.
        >
        >So we'll be starting doxycycline soon. The vet also suggested that
        >he may have polyps and we may be referred to a specialist to check
        >that out as well.
        >
        >So a huge thank you to whomever recommended this test. To finally
        >have a definitive diagnosis has been worth its weight in gold!
        >
        >Susan
        >
      • tiascia
        I m so glad you did the PRC panel and yes, I was equally shocked to find out my cat did NOT have herpes. We tested positive for calicivirus and mycoplasma
        Message 3 of 9 , Jun 30, 2013
          I'm so glad you did the PRC panel and yes, I was equally shocked to find out my cat did NOT have herpes. We tested positive for calicivirus and mycoplasma felis.

          Doxycycline was heaven sent for us, we did 42 days. It took about 2 weeks into Doxy that we started noticing improvement. But from then on it was great.

          Our vet mentioned polyps as well, but everything cleared with doxy and we believe now that polyps are not part of this game.

          Two weeks after Doxycycline round was over, we started seeing Ike getting snotty again. We started Wei Chi booster (an herbal immune booster from Chi Institute) 2x day and Grapefruit Seed Extract every other day. Ike also gets wheat grass powder once every day or other day, and digestive enzymes with each meal. Probiotics also - usually once a day or every other day.
          I know that sounds like a LOT, but it really isn't overwhelming.

          And most importantly, he has got better again - less congestion, no snoring, and much easier breathing!!!

          I give him digestive enzymes because this cat stopped digesting all fats due to being on large doses of L-Lysine for over a year. I know that because we had live blood study done for him. That was a shock to see, by the way. An obligate carnivore who wasn't digesting his meat!
          Wheatgrass powder gives Ike a big boost of energy. Chemically it allows for better oxygen absorption and hence he gets charged as he should be :)
          Probiotics are replenishing his gut with necessary good bacteria after long periods of antibiotics.
          Grapefruit seed extract is a natural antibiotic so to speak, with an advantage of keeping good bacteria intact. My hope is to keep respiratory viruses at bay with a dose of it here and there.
          And Wei Chi booster (last thing we added) seems to make everything else work better. It truly seems to clear him up and it makes him quite a normal functioning cat while we can sleep soundly without being awakened by his snoring!

          I know - this is more information than anyone asked for but I just wanted to share it since it really feels like it is working for us. We struggled for 2 years now and tried SO many things that did't work...

          BTW, I know of a calicivirus cat who had polyps removed, and lives a happy life ever since with a very few flareups.

          Best of luck with Doxycycline to you!!!

          Tjasa

          --- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com, "brookeott" <sott@...> wrote:
          >
          > I have been a member here for several months but have not posted before. We have assumed for two years that our aby has feline herpes. He has major congestion, snotty sneezes and drippy eyes. Recently someone here mentioned a prc panel so I requested one from my vet. (BTW, it cost $104 which I thought was very reasonable given the fees we've incurred over the years.)
          >
          > We got the results yesterday. To everyone's surprise the herpes panel came back negative, as did all other tests except for one. He has tested positive for mycoplasma felis. Without this test being done we'd still be giving l-lysine (which has never worked) and famcyclovir.
          >
          > So we'll be starting doxycycline soon. The vet also suggested that he may have polyps and we may be referred to a specialist to check that out as well.
          >
          > So a huge thank you to whomever recommended this test. To finally have a definitive diagnosis has been worth its weight in gold!
          >
          > Susan
          >
        • Careyann Hornak
          Is this mycoplasma felis contagious to other cats since most of us have more than one? Carey Sent from my iPad
          Message 4 of 9 , Jun 30, 2013
            Is this mycoplasma felis contagious to other cats since most of us have more than one?
            Carey

            Sent from my iPad

            On Jun 30, 2013, at 12:02 PM, "tiascia" <tjasatorres@...> wrote:

            > mycoplasma felis
          • Diane
            Tjasa, was this for Ike? I remember the 42 days. How s he doing now? Kali has never been snotty really. Sometimes she goobers but not what I d consider snot,
            Message 5 of 9 , Jun 30, 2013
              Tjasa, was this for Ike? I remember the 42 days. How's he doing now?

              Kali has never been snotty really. Sometimes she goobers but not what
              I'd consider snot, just a clear spatter when she sneeze or gets an
              itchy nose and tries to clear it.

              I found the video I took of her when her left nostril first blocked,
              two weeks ago Friday. HUGE difference! You can barely hear her
              breathe now, but that left side is still blocked.

              The vet said there are a couple of things that the PCR panel tests
              for that Doxy does not kill.

              Diane

              At 5:02 PM +0000 6/30/13, tiascia wrote:
              >I'm so glad you did the PRC panel and yes, I was equally shocked to
              >find out my cat did NOT have herpes. We tested positive for
              >calicivirus and mycoplasma felis.
              >
              >Doxycycline was heaven sent for us, we did 42 days. It took about 2
              >weeks into Doxy that we started noticing improvement. But from then
              >on it was great.
              >
              >Our vet mentioned polyps as well, but everything cleared with doxy
              >and we believe now that polyps are not part of this game.
              >
              >Two weeks after Doxycycline round was over, we started seeing Ike
              >getting snotty again. We started Wei Chi booster (an herbal immune
              >booster from Chi Institute) 2x day and Grapefruit Seed Extract every
              >other day. Ike also gets wheat grass powder once every day or other
              >day, and digestive enzymes with each meal. Probiotics also - usually
              >once a day or every other day.
              >I know that sounds like a LOT, but it really isn't overwhelming.
              >
              >And most importantly, he has got better again - less congestion, no
              >snoring, and much easier breathing!!!
              >
              >I give him digestive enzymes because this cat stopped digesting all
              >fats due to being on large doses of L-Lysine for over a year. I know
              >that because we had live blood study done for him. That was a shock
              >to see, by the way. An obligate carnivore who wasn't digesting his
              >meat!
              >Wheatgrass powder gives Ike a big boost of energy. Chemically it
              >allows for better oxygen absorption and hence he gets charged as he
              >should be :)
              >Probiotics are replenishing his gut with necessary good bacteria
              >after long periods of antibiotics.
              >Grapefruit seed extract is a natural antibiotic so to speak, with an
              >advantage of keeping good bacteria intact. My hope is to keep
              >respiratory viruses at bay with a dose of it here and there.
              >And Wei Chi booster (last thing we added) seems to make everything
              >else work better. It truly seems to clear him up and it makes him
              >quite a normal functioning cat while we can sleep soundly without
              >being awakened by his snoring!
              >
              >I know - this is more information than anyone asked for but I just
              >wanted to share it since it really feels like it is working for us.
              >We struggled for 2 years now and tried SO many things that did't
              >work...
              >
              >BTW, I know of a calicivirus cat who had polyps removed, and lives a
              >happy life ever since with a very few flareups.
              >
              >Best of luck with Doxycycline to you!!!
              >
              >Tjasa
              >
              >--- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com, "brookeott" <sott@...> wrote:
              >>
              >> I have been a member here for several months but have not posted
              >>before. We have assumed for two years that our aby has feline
              >>herpes. He has major congestion, snotty sneezes and drippy eyes.
              >>Recently someone here mentioned a prc panel so I requested one from
              >>my vet. (BTW, it cost $104 which I thought was very reasonable
              >>given the fees we've incurred over the years.)
              >>
              >> We got the results yesterday. To everyone's surprise the herpes
              >>panel came back negative, as did all other tests except for one.
              >>He has tested positive for mycoplasma felis. Without this test
              >>being done we'd still be giving l-lysine (which has never worked)
              >>and famcyclovir.
              >>
              >> So we'll be starting doxycycline soon. The vet also suggested
              >>that he may have polyps and we may be referred to a specialist to
              >>check that out as well.
              >>
              >> So a huge thank you to whomever recommended this test. To finally
              >>have a definitive diagnosis has been worth its weight in gold!
              >>
              > > Susan
              > >
            • Diane
              ps - so sorry - did Ike have any eating issues? Kali is losing weight and since I always feed 3 of them out of one dish, I have no idea what she ate. I am now
              Message 6 of 9 , Jun 30, 2013
                ps - so sorry - did Ike have any eating issues? Kali is losing weight
                and since I always feed 3 of them out of one dish, I have no idea
                what she ate. I am now feeding her upstairs (and Houdini died so that
                messed up what I knew about how much food they eat). Even so, she can
                easily eat the food downstairs, the only thing I know is that Missy
                will not come upstairs to eat Kali's food.

                I don't know if she's down on the food because she's stuffy or if
                something else is going on. I had weighed her last week and she
                seemed up, but she's lost more again.

                Diane
              • tiascia
                Diane, Yes, Ike did have eating/weight issues. He used to eat a lot, perhaps Lysine was giving him extra appetite. When we started Doxy his appetite dropped
                Message 7 of 9 , Jul 1, 2013
                  Diane,
                  Yes, Ike did have eating/weight issues. He used to eat a lot, perhaps Lysine was giving him extra appetite. When we started Doxy his appetite dropped significantly within the first week. Actually I complained to the vet, I was worried. But second week of Doxy he started eating normally. Not too much, not too little. And guess what, he's always been on a very skinny side, but while on Doxy he started gaining normal weight!
                  Once off Doxy he's back to somewhat skinny, but not as skinny as he was.

                  And Diane, you may want to talk to your vet about possible polyps on that left side... University of FL vet asked me if Ike ever tries to "clear" his nose or ears by shaking etc. She said that would be an indication for polyps or some other structural obstruction possibly.

                  Carey, I looked up if mycoplasma is contagious. One vet says it could be if the carrier cat is shedding the virus, but it is not very common because the cats not infected would have to have some other respiratory difficulties for mycoplasma to take hold in their system... I personally think it is contagious, especially with new cat introductions as they are usually stressed to be in new environment and then the new virus/bacteria invasion on top makes for a perfect sickness. All our cats got a little present from Ike in the past, but got over it and have not got it again, thank god! Very few cats become carriers of these respiratory viruses.

                  Tjasa

                  --- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com, Diane <dianed143@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > ps - so sorry - did Ike have any eating issues? Kali is losing weight
                  > and since I always feed 3 of them out of one dish, I have no idea
                  > what she ate. I am now feeding her upstairs (and Houdini died so that
                  > messed up what I knew about how much food they eat). Even so, she can
                  > easily eat the food downstairs, the only thing I know is that Missy
                  > will not come upstairs to eat Kali's food.
                  >
                  > I don't know if she's down on the food because she's stuffy or if
                  > something else is going on. I had weighed her last week and she
                  > seemed up, but she's lost more again.
                  >
                  > Diane
                  >
                • Diane
                  I never even considered the Doxy causing her weight loss. She had definitely lost weight prior to going on it anyway. I felt after the first week she had
                  Message 8 of 9 , Jul 2, 2013
                    I never even considered the Doxy causing her weight loss. She had
                    definitely lost weight prior to going on it anyway. I felt after the
                    first week she had gained and contributed it to being able to smell
                    better, but she's gone down again.

                    Kali has always been thin, but it's a lean thin, pretty much 9.5lbs
                    her adult life. Now she's took skinny, I can feel her bones. The vet
                    really doesn't want her to lose more weight. She's in the low 8's

                    We have discussed polyps but it's the MRI that will detect that. Then
                    the specialist told me she rarely sees polyps in cats over 3 years
                    old. My regular vet had never heard of that - 3 vets in my practice
                    discussed them with me.

                    She does shake her head but it seems more when her nose is runny and
                    I liken it to the feeling of wet snot tickling her.

                    Diane

                    At 2:51 AM +0000 7/2/13, tiascia wrote:
                    >Diane,
                    >Yes, Ike did have eating/weight issues. He used to eat a lot,
                    >perhaps Lysine was giving him extra appetite. When we started Doxy
                    >his appetite dropped significantly within the first week. Actually I
                    >complained to the vet, I was worried. But second week of Doxy he
                    >started eating normally. Not too much, not too little. And guess
                    >what, he's always been on a very skinny side, but while on Doxy he
                    >started gaining normal weight!
                    >Once off Doxy he's back to somewhat skinny, but not as skinny as he was.
                    >
                    >And Diane, you may want to talk to your vet about possible polyps on
                    >that left side... University of FL vet asked me if Ike ever tries to
                    >"clear" his nose or ears by shaking etc. She said that would be an
                    >indication for polyps or some other structural obstruction possibly.
                    >
                    >Carey, I looked up if mycoplasma is contagious. One vet says it
                    >could be if the carrier cat is shedding the virus, but it is not
                    >very common because the cats not infected would have to have some
                    >other respiratory difficulties for mycoplasma to take hold in their
                    >system... I personally think it is contagious, especially with new
                    >cat introductions as they are usually stressed to be in new
                    >environment and then the new virus/bacteria invasion on top makes
                    >for a perfect sickness. All our cats got a little present from Ike
                    >in the past, but got over it and have not got it again, thank god!
                    >Very few cats become carriers of these respiratory viruses.
                    >
                    >Tjasa
                    >
                    >--- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com, Diane <dianed143@...> wrote:
                    >>
                    >> ps - so sorry - did Ike have any eating issues? Kali is losing weight
                    >> and since I always feed 3 of them out of one dish, I have no idea
                    >> what she ate. I am now feeding her upstairs (and Houdini died so that
                    >> messed up what I knew about how much food they eat). Even so, she can
                    >> easily eat the food downstairs, the only thing I know is that Missy
                    >> will not come upstairs to eat Kali's food.
                    >>
                    >> I don't know if she's down on the food because she's stuffy or if
                    >> something else is going on. I had weighed her last week and she
                    > > seemed up, but she's lost more again.
                    > >
                  • Careyann Hornak
                    Thank you Tjasa Carey Sent from my iPad
                    Message 9 of 9 , Jul 2, 2013
                      Thank you Tjasa
                      Carey

                      Sent from my iPad

                      On Jul 1, 2013, at 9:51 PM, "tiascia" <tjasatorres@...> wrote:

                      > Tjasa
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