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Re: feline herpes Suggestions for eating

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  • jen.simonson
    For what it s worth, I ve also noticed that the more water I can get my West to drink (especially while on antibiotics/antivirals), the better he responds. I
    Message 1 of 9 , Apr 12, 2013
      For what it's worth, I've also noticed that the more water I can get my West to drink (especially while on antibiotics/antivirals), the better he responds. I often split his wet food into two bowls: most of it in one, then a tiny bit in the other, and fill that second one with a cup of water. He'll drink it all to get to the food... He's a little glutton. :)

      --- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com, <cgwoods@...> wrote:
      > Hi Tink,
      > ProPlan isn't very good food, and not cheaper than some better ones, either!
      > Some brands to look at are Natural Balance and Wellness, and I know there
      > are others. Rather than concentrate on brand names, just learn to read the
      > labels. Remembering that ingredients are listed in the order of volume they
      > are found in the food, here are a few good rules of thumb:
      > 1. NO corn, soy, or wheat in any form whether it's gluten, ground,
      > middlings, or anything else. Just none of that. A little rice, oats, and
      > barley are okay, but they need to be listed farther down the list of
      > ingredients.
      > 2. Two of the first three ingredients need to be a specifically-named meat,
      > and in canned food the first ingredient should NOT be water or other liquid!
      > Meats should preferably NOT be "meal", as in "chicken meal." This is found
      > largely in dry foods.
      > 3. Meats need to be specifically named. That is, it should be "chicken"
      > or "turkey," NOT "poultry." Or "salmon", "cod", "shrimp", and NOT "fish."
      > That way you know what your cat is eating. And there should not be a large
      > amount of "meat by-products." You don't even want to ask what that is,
      > because it could be darn near anything and not a very good source of
      > protein. Feathers, by the way, are included in "poultry by-products" as
      > they are considered a source of protein. Just sayin'.
      > The key here is to serve quality sources of protein since cats really need
      > that to survive. So once you know what to look for in a list of
      > ingredients, it opens a whole bunch of brands for you. Looking at Pro
      > Plan's Chicken & Rice dry cat food, here are the ingredients. Checking them
      > against the rules above, you can see some issues. The first ingredient is
      > fine, but the next four are not. Egg product might be okay, but "animal fat"
      > is NOT okay. Which animal, you might want to know. And after that, there is
      > MORE corn, MORE wheat, "fish" meal (what fish?) and then the nutritional
      > supplements. So mostly this food is corn, wheat, unnamed meats meal and
      > by-products. Not very good food.
      > Chicken, brewers rice, corn gluten meal, poultry by-product meal, wheat
      > gluten, egg product, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of
      > Vitamin E), whole grain corn, wheat flour, fish meal, potassium chloride,
      > brewers dried yeast, phosphoric acid, animal digest, calcium carbonate,
      > salt, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, choline
      > chloride, taurine, Vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate,
      > ascorbic acid (source of Vitamin C), manganese sulfate, niacin, Vitamin A
      > supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate,
      > riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride,
      > folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium
      > bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite.
      > Pro Plan chicken canned food (classic) is this:
      > Water sufficient for processing, chicken, liver, meat by-products, poultry
      > giblets, natural and artificial flavors, guar gum, potassium chloride,
      > tricalcium, phosphate, salt, taurine, Vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate,
      > thiamine mononitrate(Vitamin B-1), ferrous sulfate, maganese sulfate,
      > Vitamin A supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride(Vitamin B-6), copper sulfate
      > niacin, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement(Vitamin B-2), cobalt
      > carbonate, Vitamin D-3 supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, meandion sodium
      > bisulfite complex(Source of Vitamin K activity), folic acid, potassium
      > iodine, biotin
      > So, water is the first ingredient (expensive water!), and the third
      > ingredient is "meat" by-products. At least there isn't any grain. But you
      > can do better for the same price, you know? Check, for example, Wellness
      > chicken canned food:
      > Chicken, Chicken Liver, Turkey, Chicken Broth, Carrots, Natural Chicken
      > Flavor, Sweet Potatoes, Squash, Zucchini, Cranberries, Blueberries, Guar
      > Gum, Dicalcium Phosphate, Carrageenan, Ground Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride,
      > Calcium Carbonate, Taurine, Iron Proteinate (a source of Chelated Iron),
      > Beta-Carotene, Zinc Proteinate (a source of Chelated Zinc), Vitamin E
      > Supplement, Choline Chloride, Cobalt Proteinate (a source of Chelated
      > Cobalt), Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Proteinate (a source of Chelated
      > Copper), Folic Acid, Manganese Proteinate (a source of Chelated Manganese),
      > Niacin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin D-3 Supplement,
      > Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement,
      > Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Biotin.
      > Unless you don't want any veggies in the food (and some don't like that),
      > you're getting pretty good stuff and my cats do like it. The first three
      > ingredients are named meats! No grains at all! And the price is comparable
      > if you buy the larger 12.5-oz cans of Wellness instead of the 3-oz cans of
      > Pro Plan. So, shop around, read the labels, and you'll be able to buy lots
      > of new things to try on our kitties. Sometimes they know what they want and
      > a lot of times it isn't "mystery meat" and corn!
      > Caralee
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Tink
      > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 12:01 AM
      > To: cgwoods@...
      > Subject: Re: feline herpes Suggestions for eating
      > Ty for your suggestions, when my guy was little my vet had me put him on Pro
      > Plan cause he was underweight, he ate that for a while and then he stopped.
      > I tried Friskies, always offering a variety of flavored and consistencies,
      > he ate those well for a long time then stopped. Then he liked the Fancy
      > feast gravy lovers but after a while stopped them too. Now the vet had me go
      > back to the Pro plan and he started doing well and now not. I've often put
      > food on my finger and in his mouth when he doesn't eat to try to intice him
      > to eat by tasting it, and all it does is piss him off and he goes
      > away.sometimes when he doesn't eat he will come look at the food smell it
      > and walk away, other times he will just look at it from a far and walk away.
      > Also sometimes when I put food down that he doesn't eat, every time I go
      > back in the kitchen (where I keep his food) he comes running behind me
      > rubbing on me and meowing. I feel so helpless, I love my baby ssssssooooo
      > much, I feel like a bad parent but my finances are really limited. I can't
      > imagine how people do it who have more than one cat with Herpes
      > Sent from my iPhone
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