Re: feline herpes Suggestions for eating
- For what it's worth, I've also noticed that the more water I can get my West to drink (especially while on antibiotics/antivirals), the better he responds. I often split his wet food into two bowls: most of it in one, then a tiny bit in the other, and fill that second one with a cup of water. He'll drink it all to get to the food... He's a little glutton. :)
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, <cgwoods@...> wrote:
> Hi Tink,
> ProPlan isn't very good food, and not cheaper than some better ones, either!
> Some brands to look at are Natural Balance and Wellness, and I know there
> are others. Rather than concentrate on brand names, just learn to read the
> labels. Remembering that ingredients are listed in the order of volume they
> are found in the food, here are a few good rules of thumb:
> 1. NO corn, soy, or wheat in any form whether it's gluten, ground,
> middlings, or anything else. Just none of that. A little rice, oats, and
> barley are okay, but they need to be listed farther down the list of
> 2. Two of the first three ingredients need to be a specifically-named meat,
> and in canned food the first ingredient should NOT be water or other liquid!
> Meats should preferably NOT be "meal", as in "chicken meal." This is found
> largely in dry foods.
> 3. Meats need to be specifically named. That is, it should be "chicken"
> or "turkey," NOT "poultry." Or "salmon", "cod", "shrimp", and NOT "fish."
> That way you know what your cat is eating. And there should not be a large
> amount of "meat by-products." You don't even want to ask what that is,
> because it could be darn near anything and not a very good source of
> protein. Feathers, by the way, are included in "poultry by-products" as
> they are considered a source of protein. Just sayin'.
> The key here is to serve quality sources of protein since cats really need
> that to survive. So once you know what to look for in a list of
> ingredients, it opens a whole bunch of brands for you. Looking at Pro
> Plan's Chicken & Rice dry cat food, here are the ingredients. Checking them
> against the rules above, you can see some issues. The first ingredient is
> fine, but the next four are not. Egg product might be okay, but "animal fat"
> is NOT okay. Which animal, you might want to know. And after that, there is
> MORE corn, MORE wheat, "fish" meal (what fish?) and then the nutritional
> supplements. So mostly this food is corn, wheat, unnamed meats meal and
> by-products. Not very good food.
> Chicken, brewers rice, corn gluten meal, poultry by-product meal, wheat
> gluten, egg product, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of
> Vitamin E), whole grain corn, wheat flour, fish meal, potassium chloride,
> brewers dried yeast, phosphoric acid, animal digest, calcium carbonate,
> salt, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, choline
> chloride, taurine, Vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate,
> ascorbic acid (source of Vitamin C), manganese sulfate, niacin, Vitamin A
> supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate,
> riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride,
> folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium
> bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite.
> Pro Plan chicken canned food (classic) is this:
> Water sufficient for processing, chicken, liver, meat by-products, poultry
> giblets, natural and artificial flavors, guar gum, potassium chloride,
> tricalcium, phosphate, salt, taurine, Vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate,
> thiamine mononitrate(Vitamin B-1), ferrous sulfate, maganese sulfate,
> Vitamin A supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride(Vitamin B-6), copper sulfate
> niacin, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement(Vitamin B-2), cobalt
> carbonate, Vitamin D-3 supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, meandion sodium
> bisulfite complex(Source of Vitamin K activity), folic acid, potassium
> iodine, biotin
> So, water is the first ingredient (expensive water!), and the third
> ingredient is "meat" by-products. At least there isn't any grain. But you
> can do better for the same price, you know? Check, for example, Wellness
> chicken canned food:
> Chicken, Chicken Liver, Turkey, Chicken Broth, Carrots, Natural Chicken
> Flavor, Sweet Potatoes, Squash, Zucchini, Cranberries, Blueberries, Guar
> Gum, Dicalcium Phosphate, Carrageenan, Ground Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride,
> Calcium Carbonate, Taurine, Iron Proteinate (a source of Chelated Iron),
> Beta-Carotene, Zinc Proteinate (a source of Chelated Zinc), Vitamin E
> Supplement, Choline Chloride, Cobalt Proteinate (a source of Chelated
> Cobalt), Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Proteinate (a source of Chelated
> Copper), Folic Acid, Manganese Proteinate (a source of Chelated Manganese),
> Niacin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin D-3 Supplement,
> Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement,
> Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Biotin.
> Unless you don't want any veggies in the food (and some don't like that),
> you're getting pretty good stuff and my cats do like it. The first three
> ingredients are named meats! No grains at all! And the price is comparable
> if you buy the larger 12.5-oz cans of Wellness instead of the 3-oz cans of
> Pro Plan. So, shop around, read the labels, and you'll be able to buy lots
> of new things to try on our kitties. Sometimes they know what they want and
> a lot of times it isn't "mystery meat" and corn!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tink
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 12:01 AM
> To: cgwoods@...
> Subject: Re: feline herpes Suggestions for eating
> Ty for your suggestions, when my guy was little my vet had me put him on Pro
> Plan cause he was underweight, he ate that for a while and then he stopped.
> I tried Friskies, always offering a variety of flavored and consistencies,
> he ate those well for a long time then stopped. Then he liked the Fancy
> feast gravy lovers but after a while stopped them too. Now the vet had me go
> back to the Pro plan and he started doing well and now not. I've often put
> food on my finger and in his mouth when he doesn't eat to try to intice him
> to eat by tasting it, and all it does is piss him off and he goes
> away.sometimes when he doesn't eat he will come look at the food smell it
> and walk away, other times he will just look at it from a far and walk away.
> Also sometimes when I put food down that he doesn't eat, every time I go
> back in the kitchen (where I keep his food) he comes running behind me
> rubbing on me and meowing. I feel so helpless, I love my baby ssssssooooo
> much, I feel like a bad parent but my finances are really limited. I can't
> imagine how people do it who have more than one cat with Herpes
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