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  • nancycatania@comcast.net
    I always use epo on her, nothing has ever worked to finally get her better, she does well on the claritin and epo and lysine but these past few months her
    Message 1 of 29 , May 1 6:07 AM
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      I always use epo on her, nothing has ever worked to 'finally' get her better, she does well on the claritin and epo and lysine but these past few months her eyes aren't open so bright and clear and she has had the brown discharge. So we're finishing up the Fam, she's on the doxy for another week and a half, the neopolybac and this morning I'll talk to the specialist about the Idox because I don't understand how that can hurt, since she didn't test to see if it is a bacterial or viral problem. Never tried the echinacea. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks, Anyes.

      Nancy

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Anyes" <anyes@...>
      To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 12:35:49 AM
      Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections






      I am sorry it's not really working for her at this time. Have you tried
      echinacea or/and evening primrose oil? Echinacea worked great with my 2
      babies when they were chronically sick. It takes 2 weeks to start
      working however, but the results were noticeable. I gave 125mg/day,
      costco paste in a gelcap. It boosts the immune system to do its
      thing. I know you are familiar with epo so no need to repeat...

      Anyes and the snotty girls

      On 4/30/2012 4:38 PM, nancycatania@... wrote:
      > She is mediocre, she never really gets very frisky but she's been sleeping most of the day since this has gotten her down. She had been sneezing out mucous and that's why the vet had given her the zith, but she gave her 20 days of every other day and I don't think that helped her at all. Now the specialist gave her the doxy, every day, twice/day for 14 days. But she doesn't seem to think I need anything antiviral. So I don't get that. Then again, the Fam didn't work for her, maybe that's why?
      >
      > Nancy



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    • nancycatania@comcast.net
      Anyes, I just heard from the specialist and she said that she isn t sure if it is bacterial or viral so that s why she said to continue the fam until it s
      Message 2 of 29 , May 1 6:37 AM
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        Anyes, I just heard from the specialist and she said that she isn't sure if it is bacterial or viral so that's why she said to continue the fam until it's finished and she added the doxy. She said not to use the Idox because it burns them and since I was using it before an it wasn't helping...but I wasn't using it the whole time and I think I should still use it. Then she suggested a rhinoscopy to see what's going on if she is always sneezing ($3,000). I do have some Echinacea in powder form, would you think I should add that to her regimen of the lysine, epo, Doxy for another week and she also gets an immune booster? If so, 125 mg is smaller than 1/8 tsp, like half of that, right?

        Nancy

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Anyes" <anyes@...>
        To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 12:35:49 AM
        Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections






        I am sorry it's not really working for her at this time. Have you tried
        echinacea or/and evening primrose oil? Echinacea worked great with my 2
        babies when they were chronically sick. It takes 2 weeks to start
        working however, but the results were noticeable. I gave 125mg/day,
        costco paste in a gelcap. It boosts the immune system to do its
        thing. I know you are familiar with epo so no need to repeat...

        Anyes and the snotty girls

        On 4/30/2012 4:38 PM, nancycatania@... wrote:
        > She is mediocre, she never really gets very frisky but she's been sleeping most of the day since this has gotten her down. She had been sneezing out mucous and that's why the vet had given her the zith, but she gave her 20 days of every other day and I don't think that helped her at all. Now the specialist gave her the doxy, every day, twice/day for 14 days. But she doesn't seem to think I need anything antiviral. So I don't get that. Then again, the Fam didn't work for her, maybe that's why?
        >
        > Nancy



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      • nancycatania@comcast.net
        She wasn t sure because an Internist would be the specialist there. She just said maybe I can make an appt with him and see if it warrants it. On the Ech,
        Message 3 of 29 , May 1 6:54 AM
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          She wasn't sure because an Internist would be the specialist there. She just said maybe I can make an appt with him and see if it warrants it.
          On the Ech, isn't 1/8 tsp 250 mg, like with lysine? so if all powders are measured the same, wouldn't the dosage for 125 be HALF of the 1/8 tsp?

          Nancy

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Anyes" <anyes@...>
          To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:51:13 AM
          Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections






          yes, I think the powder would be 1/8 teaspoon. I used the paste from
          costco Tru Nature so it was premeasured in a gelcap.

          Wow, that rhinoscopy is expensive. Would that change the treatment?

          On 5/1/2012 8:37 AM, nancycatania@... wrote:
          > Anyes, I just heard from the specialist and she said that she isn't sure if it is bacterial or viral so that's why she said to continue the fam until it's finished and she added the doxy. She said not to use the Idox because it burns them and since I was using it before an it wasn't helping...but I wasn't using it the whole time and I think I should still use it. Then she suggested a rhinoscopy to see what's going on if she is always sneezing ($3,000). I do have some Echinacea in powder form, would you think I should add that to her regimen of the lysine, epo, Doxy for another week and she also gets an immune booster? If so, 125 mg is smaller than 1/8 tsp, like half of that, right?
          >
          > Nancy
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          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: "Anyes"< anyes@... >
          > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 12:35:49 AM
          > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
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          > I am sorry it's not really working for her at this time. Have you tried
          > echinacea or/and evening primrose oil? Echinacea worked great with my 2
          > babies when they were chronically sick. It takes 2 weeks to start
          > working however, but the results were noticeable. I gave 125mg/day,
          > costco paste in a gelcap. It boosts the immune system to do its
          > thing. I know you are familiar with epo so no need to repeat...
          >
          > Anyes and the snotty girls
          >
          > On 4/30/2012 4:38 PM, nancycatania@... wrote:
          >> She is mediocre, she never really gets very frisky but she's been sleeping most of the day since this has gotten her down. She had been sneezing out mucous and that's why the vet had given her the zith, but she gave her 20 days of every other day and I don't think that helped her at all. Now the specialist gave her the doxy, every day, twice/day for 14 days. But she doesn't seem to think I need anything antiviral. So I don't get that. Then again, the Fam didn't work for her, maybe that's why?
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          >> Nancy
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          > http://www.thensome.com/herpes.htm
          > Yahoo! Groups Links
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        • Anyes
          yes, I think the powder would be 1/8 teaspoon. I used the paste from costco Tru Nature so it was premeasured in a gelcap. Wow, that rhinoscopy is expensive.
          Message 4 of 29 , May 1 7:51 AM
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            yes, I think the powder would be 1/8 teaspoon. I used the paste from
            costco Tru Nature so it was premeasured in a gelcap.

            Wow, that rhinoscopy is expensive. Would that change the treatment?

            On 5/1/2012 8:37 AM, nancycatania@... wrote:
            > Anyes, I just heard from the specialist and she said that she isn't sure if it is bacterial or viral so that's why she said to continue the fam until it's finished and she added the doxy. She said not to use the Idox because it burns them and since I was using it before an it wasn't helping...but I wasn't using it the whole time and I think I should still use it. Then she suggested a rhinoscopy to see what's going on if she is always sneezing ($3,000). I do have some Echinacea in powder form, would you think I should add that to her regimen of the lysine, epo, Doxy for another week and she also gets an immune booster? If so, 125 mg is smaller than 1/8 tsp, like half of that, right?
            >
            > Nancy
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: "Anyes"<anyes@...>
            > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 12:35:49 AM
            > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
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            > I am sorry it's not really working for her at this time. Have you tried
            > echinacea or/and evening primrose oil? Echinacea worked great with my 2
            > babies when they were chronically sick. It takes 2 weeks to start
            > working however, but the results were noticeable. I gave 125mg/day,
            > costco paste in a gelcap. It boosts the immune system to do its
            > thing. I know you are familiar with epo so no need to repeat...
            >
            > Anyes and the snotty girls
            >
            > On 4/30/2012 4:38 PM, nancycatania@... wrote:
            >> She is mediocre, she never really gets very frisky but she's been sleeping most of the day since this has gotten her down. She had been sneezing out mucous and that's why the vet had given her the zith, but she gave her 20 days of every other day and I don't think that helped her at all. Now the specialist gave her the doxy, every day, twice/day for 14 days. But she doesn't seem to think I need anything antiviral. So I don't get that. Then again, the Fam didn't work for her, maybe that's why?
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            >> Nancy
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            > http://www.thensome.com/herpes.htm
            > Yahoo! Groups Links
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          • AMY
            Nancy, the vet ordered a compounded form of the Famvir w/a chicken flavor. It took a few days and it was kind of expensive. $70 for a two week supply. There
            Message 5 of 29 , May 1 8:23 AM
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              Nancy, the vet ordered a compounded form of the Famvir w/a chicken flavor. It took a few days and it was kind of expensive. $70 for a two week supply. There isn't much in the bottle so I was skeptical but it seems to be doing okay. He didn't order eye drops or ointment at the time but we have plenty on hand in case we need them. His eye seems to be on a day to day basis. One day it is open and clear and the next day cloudy and goopy and clear again the following day. I'm hoping the Famvir course makes it a bit more stable.

              I am sorry about Skye. This virus is very difficult to get a handle on, you think you have it clear and it pops up with a different symptom. I am so grateful for everyone in this group for support. Keep me posted on Summer and what the treatment is, poor baby.

              --- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com, nancycatania@... wrote:
              >
              > Thank you, Mary.
              > Nancy
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: "Mary" <maryharden40@...>
              > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:11:11 PM
              > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
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              > Poor little Skye, I hope her eye gets better soon.
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              > --- On Mon, 4/30/12, nancycatania@... < nancycatania@... > wrote:
              >
              > From: nancycatania@... < nancycatania@... >
              > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
              > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 8:55 PM
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              > Amy, I wasn't aware it comes in a liquid, that's good to know. My Skye can't shake the eye ulcer and sequestrum she has now, I brought her to a specialist and for some reason she told me the Famcyclovir wouldn't work this time and just put her on neopolybac. Did your doctor also put Bailey on an eye drop?
              > Nancy
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: "AMY" < amontry@... >
              > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:13:48 PM
              > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
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              > Nancy, Bailey has been on liquid Famvir for three days now and he looks fantastic. My fiance gave his the "best he's ever looked" report today and he is actually starting to get a bit of energy in him. He still has a little puffiness around his eye socket area but his eyeball is the clearest I've seen it.
              >
              > Thank you and everyone for your advice on this medication!
              >
              > --- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com , nancycatania@ wrote:
              > >
              > > You'll definitely get a good response from the Famcyclovir, Amy. Good luck and let us know how it goes. You should see results in a couple of days. Not to say that it won't happen again with some sort of eye problem, but the Famcyclovir is same to use and readily available and works every time. Hope that makes you feel better :)
              > > Nancy
              > >
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > > From: "AMY" <amontry@>
              > > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
              > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:28:39 AM
              > > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
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              > > Nancy, I called our vet this morning and he wasn't familiar with Famvir but he is going to research it today and write a prescription for Bailey. I can't help but have a bubble of hope for my chubby boy. :) I've been working with him for nine solid months and the hope that he could be symptom free, even for a month, makes me and I'm sure him, happy.
              > >
              > > Thank you and Lisa for your advice!
              > >
              > > --- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com , nancycatania@ wrote:
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > Hi Amy,
              > > >
              > > > Please don't think of putting your cat down for an eye problem. My Summer has had on/off eye ulcers from herpes for 7 years and I would never think that a reason to put her down. Once they have herpes, it's always with them though it doesn't always manifest itself outwardly. Some times will be worse than others. Famcyclovir is an oral medication that your vet can prescribe to a local pharmacy. I get mine at CVS. I hope you decide to treat Bailey and not put him down. 10 days of Famcyclovir will probably solve the problem.
              > > >
              > > > Nancy
              > > >
              > > > ----- Original Message -----
              > > > From: "AMY" <amontry@>
              > > > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
              > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:36:27 AM
              > > > Subject: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
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              > > > Good morning, I've been struggling with my rescued cat, Bailey, since last September. I didn't know that he was herpes positive (we did a panel to confirm it in February) when we adopted him and two days after we rescued him he had a flare up of an URI and conjunctivitis that took months to get under control.
              > > >
              > > > At the beginning of the year, his one eye flared up with severe conjunctivitis and we took him to another vet for a second opinion. Since February, we've been giving him anti-viral eye drops, the first three weeks was five times a day. We've been cutting him back and continuing lysine treatment.
              > > >
              > > > He never healed 100% in the one eye, there was still a bit of swelling so we didn't feel comfortable stopping his eye medicine. He's on his second bottle of it. Yesterday he woke up and both eyes were swollen and goopy. We started back on the five times a day treatment but I am very disheartened.
              > > >
              > > > I am questioning whether it is normal to have the virus be constantly active. The vet said it may be chronic and that if we keep him at 90% well, it may be the best we can get. I don't know why he had both eye flair up, nothing has changed and he lives a very stress free life style. (I admit, I baby him!) :) He has healthy food, clean water, lots of love, lysine treatments, and exercise, yet we can't get a handle on his health.
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              > > > I am wondering how he really feels on the inside. He's been fighting this since last September chronically and we pretty much thought we'd lose him at one point. My tough question for the group is, am I being fair to keep him at 90% well as a goal? Is it more humane to put him down if he is never going to be healthy? I hate to think it but I hate to be selfish as well. My thinking on it is that every day that he is alive and loved is one more day than he would be at the shelter. I'm sorry to be so down but I am very disappointed in his flair up out of nowhere.
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              > > > Thanks for your advice in advance.
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            • nancycatania@comcast.net
              I will, Amy, thanks for the info. I think I pay about $57 (it keeps changing) for two courses of ten days each with the pills. I hope Bailey continues on the
              Message 6 of 29 , May 1 8:29 AM
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                I will, Amy, thanks for the info. I think I pay about $57 (it keeps changing) for two courses of ten days each with the pills.
                I hope Bailey continues on the upswing.
                Nancy

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "AMY" <amontry@...>
                To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:23:46 AM
                Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections







                Nancy, the vet ordered a compounded form of the Famvir w/a chicken flavor. It took a few days and it was kind of expensive. $70 for a two week supply. There isn't much in the bottle so I was skeptical but it seems to be doing okay. He didn't order eye drops or ointment at the time but we have plenty on hand in case we need them. His eye seems to be on a day to day basis. One day it is open and clear and the next day cloudy and goopy and clear again the following day. I'm hoping the Famvir course makes it a bit more stable.

                I am sorry about Skye. This virus is very difficult to get a handle on, you think you have it clear and it pops up with a different symptom. I am so grateful for everyone in this group for support. Keep me posted on Summer and what the treatment is, poor baby.

                --- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com , nancycatania@... wrote:
                >
                > Thank you, Mary.
                > Nancy
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: "Mary" <maryharden40@...>
                > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:11:11 PM
                > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
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                > Poor little Skye, I hope her eye gets better soon.
                >
                > --- On Mon, 4/30/12, nancycatania@... < nancycatania@... > wrote:
                >
                > From: nancycatania@... < nancycatania@... >
                > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
                > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
                > Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 8:55 PM
                >
                >
                >
                > Amy, I wasn't aware it comes in a liquid, that's good to know. My Skye can't shake the eye ulcer and sequestrum she has now, I brought her to a specialist and for some reason she told me the Famcyclovir wouldn't work this time and just put her on neopolybac. Did your doctor also put Bailey on an eye drop?
                > Nancy
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: "AMY" < amontry@... >
                > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:13:48 PM
                > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
                >
                > Nancy, Bailey has been on liquid Famvir for three days now and he looks fantastic. My fiance gave his the "best he's ever looked" report today and he is actually starting to get a bit of energy in him. He still has a little puffiness around his eye socket area but his eyeball is the clearest I've seen it.
                >
                > Thank you and everyone for your advice on this medication!
                >
                > --- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com , nancycatania@ wrote:
                > >
                > > You'll definitely get a good response from the Famcyclovir, Amy. Good luck and let us know how it goes. You should see results in a couple of days. Not to say that it won't happen again with some sort of eye problem, but the Famcyclovir is same to use and readily available and works every time. Hope that makes you feel better :)
                > > Nancy
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: "AMY" <amontry@>
                > > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
                > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:28:39 AM
                > > Subject: Re: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
                > >
                > >
                > >
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                > > Nancy, I called our vet this morning and he wasn't familiar with Famvir but he is going to research it today and write a prescription for Bailey. I can't help but have a bubble of hope for my chubby boy. :) I've been working with him for nine solid months and the hope that he could be symptom free, even for a month, makes me and I'm sure him, happy.
                > >
                > > Thank you and Lisa for your advice!
                > >
                > > --- In felineherpes@yahoogroups.com , nancycatania@ wrote:
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > Hi Amy,
                > > >
                > > > Please don't think of putting your cat down for an eye problem. My Summer has had on/off eye ulcers from herpes for 7 years and I would never think that a reason to put her down. Once they have herpes, it's always with them though it doesn't always manifest itself outwardly. Some times will be worse than others. Famcyclovir is an oral medication that your vet can prescribe to a local pharmacy. I get mine at CVS. I hope you decide to treat Bailey and not put him down. 10 days of Famcyclovir will probably solve the problem.
                > > >
                > > > Nancy
                > > >
                > > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > > From: "AMY" <amontry@>
                > > > To: felineherpes@yahoogroups.com
                > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:36:27 AM
                > > > Subject: [felineherpes]feline herpes Chronic eye infections
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > Good morning, I've been struggling with my rescued cat, Bailey, since last September. I didn't know that he was herpes positive (we did a panel to confirm it in February) when we adopted him and two days after we rescued him he had a flare up of an URI and conjunctivitis that took months to get under control.
                > > >
                > > > At the beginning of the year, his one eye flared up with severe conjunctivitis and we took him to another vet for a second opinion. Since February, we've been giving him anti-viral eye drops, the first three weeks was five times a day. We've been cutting him back and continuing lysine treatment.
                > > >
                > > > He never healed 100% in the one eye, there was still a bit of swelling so we didn't feel comfortable stopping his eye medicine. He's on his second bottle of it. Yesterday he woke up and both eyes were swollen and goopy. We started back on the five times a day treatment but I am very disheartened.
                > > >
                > > > I am questioning whether it is normal to have the virus be constantly active. The vet said it may be chronic and that if we keep him at 90% well, it may be the best we can get. I don't know why he had both eye flair up, nothing has changed and he lives a very stress free life style. (I admit, I baby him!) :) He has healthy food, clean water, lots of love, lysine treatments, and exercise, yet we can't get a handle on his health.
                > > >
                > > > I am wondering how he really feels on the inside. He's been fighting this since last September chronically and we pretty much thought we'd lose him at one point. My tough question for the group is, am I being fair to keep him at 90% well as a goal? Is it more humane to put him down if he is never going to be healthy? I hate to think it but I hate to be selfish as well. My thinking on it is that every day that he is alive and loved is one more day than he would be at the shelter. I'm sorry to be so down but I am very disappointed in his flair up out of nowhere.
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