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  • adawson1971@aol.com
    Three weeks ago Tuesday, I had to rush Moth to the vet because he couldn t catch his breath. A cough turned into rapid, labored breathing then into a pant.
    Message 1 of 5 , Mar 1, 2003
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      Three weeks ago Tuesday, I had to rush Moth to the vet because he couldn't
      catch his breath. A cough turned into rapid, labored breathing then into a
      pant.

      Xrays revealed that he somehow had caught pneumonia. The vet on duty (his
      regular vet was on vacation) said that his temperature had dropped indicating
      that oxygen wasn't circulating in body, and it was a good thing that I had
      gotten Moth there so quickly. Moth spent the night in intensive care in an
      oxygen cage with some sort of heating source.

      In less than 20 minutes Moth went from fine to near death. I can't help
      imagining what would have happened if I had not been working from home that
      day.

      As is his nature, Moth rallied quickly (after about 12 hours on oxygen) and
      was soon, (I'm told) purring, demanding attention, and walking around like he
      owned the place. With a bottle of antibiotics, he was able to come home the
      next evening. Within a few days, Moth was a bit slow, but nearly his old
      self.

      The following Thursday, we returned to the hospital for a follow up exam and
      xray. It showed that his lungs hadn't cleared. I noted to the vet who was
      handling his case, (my vet was still away, but all the vets there are and
      have been great. Seems Moth is rather famous, or is that infamous around the
      place. I hear the techs fight over who gets to take care of him when he's
      there. :-)) that Moth is somewhat resistant to Baytril, the antibiotic given.
      And the last time we had needed one, we had switched to Azithromycin to get
      rid of a nasty URI.

      We switched to the new antibiotic with a following week appointment for an
      ultrasound, which Moth was due for anyway. As we were "packing up' the vet
      remarked in passing that she was glad the ultrasound was only a few days
      away, as she was really interested in seeing what the specialist had to say
      about an odd shadow appearing on the xray.

      Okay, so I drop him off Tuesday morning and at about 1pm they called and said
      he's finished and that I could come pick him up any time. I go in to pick him
      up, and my regular vet who's back by this time asks if I could hang around,
      that he wanted to talk to me. They found something rather dramatic during the
      ultrasound.

      Gosh, I'm not sure why I'm dragging this out.

      What they found was a tumor growing on his heart. Some sort of growth
      anyway. Because it's located in an area where there are lots of veins and
      arteries and such, they can't test it. So they really don't know what it is.
      Moth's only 5, he noted and it's unusual for a cat so young to get cancer,
      but not impossible. I could be an enlarged lymph node (enlarged due to the
      pneumonia), but the cardiac ultrasound specialist said the shape seemed wrong
      for that. He also mentioned something else that it could be, but I don't
      remember what.

      Whatever it is it had appeared since the last ultrasound (March 13, 2002) and
      the last set of xrays (May 2002). And is probably the cause of that
      intermittant cough he has had since last spring.

      If it's nothing, Moth could be around the next 5 or 6 years and not be
      bothered by it at all. Afterall, Moth never has done as predicted or
      prognosed.

      Anyhow, the vet said that Moth's heart is the least of his problems. His
      heart was the same. No worse than what was there duing his last ultrasound
      and no sign of heart failure. But and a big but it was, with his bad heart,
      and now bad lungs, which he said the ultrasound showed no clearing up of and
      it was likely that they would never clear. And now this growth on his heart,
      Moth's prognosis is poor.

      As I said, because of the growth's location, they couldn't test nor remove
      it. Basically, other than continuing the heart meds and controling the
      pneumonia with antibiotics, there's nothing that they could do. And
      probably, he only has about 6 months.

      I don't even know why I'm writing this. I've spent the last 4 days, being
      optimistic, pessimistic, laughing over Moth's continued antics (He's still a
      bit slow, sleeping a lot, but when he wants to be, curious, active,
      mischievious, etc), and crying.

      I'm at a complete loss of what to do now. I want both a second opinion and to
      visit a holistic vet, but the costs aside (which I can't really afford right
      now), any time I try to get Moth into his carrier to go out, he freaks out. I
      mean severely freaks. He has never liked being transported, but it usually
      took only a few minutes to either convince or trick him into his carrier. But
      for the ultrasound visit, I had to get him from under the bed. (You have to
      understand that Moth is usually fearless. He never runs from anyone or
      anything) These past few attempts have taken literally 20 minutes at least
      to get him into the carrier. And that's 20 minutes of my just holding him to
      calm him down.

      It seems like I've fought so hard these past 3 years to keep him healthy and
      with me, only to now face this. He's going to die on me anyway.

      Annette
      ~~~~~~~~~~~
      Mr. P.K. Moth: Male DMH (suspected Maine Coon), diagnosed 8/2000 at approx. 2
      years old with Tricuspid Valve Dysplasia (TVD), with secondary right heart
      failure: Grade 4 murmur, galloping rhythmn, severe thickening. Currently
      asymptomatic for heart failure. 1 mg Enalapril 2x/day. Vet approved
      supplements: 75 mg CoQ10, 250 mg Taurine, 500mg Lysine, each 1x/day.


      [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    • Steph <sschoff@earthlink.net>
      Annette, I have never heard of this happening so I don t even know what to say except that I am sorry to hear about your Moth. I can t even imagine how you
      Message 2 of 5 , Mar 1, 2003
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        Annette, I have never heard of this happening so I don't even know
        what to say except that I am sorry to hear about your Moth. I can't
        even imagine how you must feel. I feel so sad for you because I
        know the way you talk about him how much you love him. He sounds
        like such a cool cat...the kind of cat your friends probably want to
        sneak home when you're not looking! He is just gorgeous!

        I think I would definitely get another opinion and contact a
        holistic vet which you can do via phone. It can't hurt.

        I never have trouble getting Gus in the carrier but Louise is
        another story. One way I get her to go in is to put her harness on
        like we're going outside and then I just carry her into the car.
        This is provided you can put a harness on Moth. I know that might
        be 1/2 the battle because he'll be stressed on the whole trip.

        I just want to say also, that Gus' cardiologist said that sometimes
        you can't always look at the numbers or put a 'sentence' on an
        animal. Some animals are strong-willed and it sounds like your Moth
        sure is. You just never know. I was hysterical last summer
        thinking Gus' time was limited when the vet saw a big clot in his
        heart but things are going ok. I know w/ hcm things can change so
        quickly, but...I do the best I can for Gus and then some and know
        that some portion of this terrible disease is out of my hands
        unfortunately. I will say some prayers for your sweetie tonight.
        Please let us know how things go.

        Paws crossed,
        Steph, Gus & Louise
        --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, adawson1971@a... wrote:
        > Three weeks ago Tuesday, I had to rush Moth to the vet because he
        couldn't
        > catch his breath. A cough turned into rapid, labored breathing
        then into a
        > pant.
        >
        > Xrays revealed that he somehow had caught pneumonia. The vet on
        duty (his
        > regular vet was on vacation) said that his temperature had dropped
        indicating
        > that oxygen wasn't circulating in body, and it was a good thing
        that I had
        > gotten Moth there so quickly. Moth spent the night in intensive
        care in an
        > oxygen cage with some sort of heating source.
        >
        > In less than 20 minutes Moth went from fine to near death. I
        can't help
        > imagining what would have happened if I had not been working from
        home that
        > day.
        >
        > As is his nature, Moth rallied quickly (after about 12 hours on
        oxygen) and
        > was soon, (I'm told) purring, demanding attention, and walking
        around like he
        > owned the place. With a bottle of antibiotics, he was able to come
        home the
        > next evening. Within a few days, Moth was a bit slow, but nearly
        his old
        > self.
        >
        > The following Thursday, we returned to the hospital for a follow
        up exam and
        > xray. It showed that his lungs hadn't cleared. I noted to the vet
        who was
        > handling his case, (my vet was still away, but all the vets there
        are and
        > have been great. Seems Moth is rather famous, or is that infamous
        around the
        > place. I hear the techs fight over who gets to take care of him
        when he's
        > there. :-)) that Moth is somewhat resistant to Baytril, the
        antibiotic given.
        > And the last time we had needed one, we had switched to
        Azithromycin to get
        > rid of a nasty URI.
        >
        > We switched to the new antibiotic with a following week
        appointment for an
        > ultrasound, which Moth was due for anyway. As we were "packing
        up' the vet
        > remarked in passing that she was glad the ultrasound was only a
        few days
        > away, as she was really interested in seeing what the specialist
        had to say
        > about an odd shadow appearing on the xray.
        >
        > Okay, so I drop him off Tuesday morning and at about 1pm they
        called and said
        > he's finished and that I could come pick him up any time. I go in
        to pick him
        > up, and my regular vet who's back by this time asks if I could
        hang around,
        > that he wanted to talk to me. They found something rather dramatic
        during the
        > ultrasound.
        >
        > Gosh, I'm not sure why I'm dragging this out.
        >
        > What they found was a tumor growing on his heart. Some sort of
        growth
        > anyway. Because it's located in an area where there are lots of
        veins and
        > arteries and such, they can't test it. So they really don't know
        what it is.
        > Moth's only 5, he noted and it's unusual for a cat so young to get
        cancer,
        > but not impossible. I could be an enlarged lymph node (enlarged
        due to the
        > pneumonia), but the cardiac ultrasound specialist said the shape
        seemed wrong
        > for that. He also mentioned something else that it could be, but I
        don't
        > remember what.
        >
        > Whatever it is it had appeared since the last ultrasound (March
        13, 2002) and
        > the last set of xrays (May 2002). And is probably the cause of
        that
        > intermittant cough he has had since last spring.
        >
        > If it's nothing, Moth could be around the next 5 or 6 years and
        not be
        > bothered by it at all. Afterall, Moth never has done as predicted
        or
        > prognosed.
        >
        > Anyhow, the vet said that Moth's heart is the least of his
        problems. His
        > heart was the same. No worse than what was there duing his last
        ultrasound
        > and no sign of heart failure. But and a big but it was, with his
        bad heart,
        > and now bad lungs, which he said the ultrasound showed no clearing
        up of and
        > it was likely that they would never clear. And now this growth on
        his heart,
        > Moth's prognosis is poor.
        >
        > As I said, because of the growth's location, they couldn't test
        nor remove
        > it. Basically, other than continuing the heart meds and controling
        the
        > pneumonia with antibiotics, there's nothing that they could do.
        And
        > probably, he only has about 6 months.
        >
        > I don't even know why I'm writing this. I've spent the last 4
        days, being
        > optimistic, pessimistic, laughing over Moth's continued antics
        (He's still a
        > bit slow, sleeping a lot, but when he wants to be, curious,
        active,
        > mischievious, etc), and crying.
        >
        > I'm at a complete loss of what to do now. I want both a second
        opinion and to
        > visit a holistic vet, but the costs aside (which I can't really
        afford right
        > now), any time I try to get Moth into his carrier to go out, he
        freaks out. I
        > mean severely freaks. He has never liked being transported, but it
        usually
        > took only a few minutes to either convince or trick him into his
        carrier. But
        > for the ultrasound visit, I had to get him from under the bed.
        (You have to
        > understand that Moth is usually fearless. He never runs from
        anyone or
        > anything) These past few attempts have taken literally 20
        minutes at least
        > to get him into the carrier. And that's 20 minutes of my just
        holding him to
        > calm him down.
        >
        > It seems like I've fought so hard these past 3 years to keep him
        healthy and
        > with me, only to now face this. He's going to die on me anyway.
        >
        > Annette
        > ~~~~~~~~~~~
        > Mr. P.K. Moth: Male DMH (suspected Maine Coon), diagnosed 8/2000
        at approx. 2
        > years old with Tricuspid Valve Dysplasia (TVD), with secondary
        right heart
        > failure: Grade 4 murmur, galloping rhythmn, severe thickening.
        Currently
        > asymptomatic for heart failure. 1 mg Enalapril 2x/day. Vet
        approved
        > supplements: 75 mg CoQ10, 250 mg Taurine, 500mg Lysine, each
        1x/day.
        >
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      • Mike & Linda Irrgang
        You just need to keep loving him and he ll tell you what he wants.....just keep holding him and loving and look into your heart for his message.....it s not
        Message 3 of 5 , Mar 2, 2003
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          You just need to keep loving him and he'll tell you what he wants.....just
          keep holding him and loving and look into your heart for his
          message.....it's not easy....you have always been a good cat mommy to
          him.....try to stay strong and hold on to your wonderful moments
          together....we are all going to the bridge someday.....maybe it's his time
          and maybe it isn't....just keep looking into your heart.

          Linda and the boys

          -----Original Message-----
          From: adawson1971@... [mailto:adawson1971@...]
          Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 6:29 PM
          To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [FH] Complications For Mr. Moth (Rather Long)

          Three weeks ago Tuesday, I had to rush Moth to the vet because he couldn't
          catch his breath. A cough turned into rapid, labored breathing then into a
          pant.

          Xrays revealed that he somehow had caught pneumonia. The vet on duty (his
          regular vet was on vacation) said that his temperature had dropped
          indicating
          that oxygen wasn't circulating in body, and it was a good thing that I had
          gotten Moth there so quickly. Moth spent the night in intensive care in an
          oxygen cage with some sort of heating source.

          In less than 20 minutes Moth went from fine to near death. I can't help
          imagining what would have happened if I had not been working from home that
          day.

          As is his nature, Moth rallied quickly (after about 12 hours on oxygen) and
          was soon, (I'm told) purring, demanding attention, and walking around like
          he
          owned the place. With a bottle of antibiotics, he was able to come home the
          next evening. Within a few days, Moth was a bit slow, but nearly his old
          self.

          The following Thursday, we returned to the hospital for a follow up exam and
          xray. It showed that his lungs hadn't cleared. I noted to the vet who was
          handling his case, (my vet was still away, but all the vets there are and
          have been great. Seems Moth is rather famous, or is that infamous around the
          place. I hear the techs fight over who gets to take care of him when he's
          there. :-)) that Moth is somewhat resistant to Baytril, the antibiotic
          given.
          And the last time we had needed one, we had switched to Azithromycin to get
          rid of a nasty URI.

          We switched to the new antibiotic with a following week appointment for an
          ultrasound, which Moth was due for anyway. As we were "packing up' the vet
          remarked in passing that she was glad the ultrasound was only a few days
          away, as she was really interested in seeing what the specialist had to say
          about an odd shadow appearing on the xray.

          Okay, so I drop him off Tuesday morning and at about 1pm they called and
          said
          he's finished and that I could come pick him up any time. I go in to pick
          him
          up, and my regular vet who's back by this time asks if I could hang around,
          that he wanted to talk to me. They found something rather dramatic during
          the
          ultrasound.

          Gosh, I'm not sure why I'm dragging this out.

          What they found was a tumor growing on his heart. Some sort of growth
          anyway. Because it's located in an area where there are lots of veins and
          arteries and such, they can't test it. So they really don't know what it is.
          Moth's only 5, he noted and it's unusual for a cat so young to get cancer,
          but not impossible. I could be an enlarged lymph node (enlarged due to the
          pneumonia), but the cardiac ultrasound specialist said the shape seemed
          wrong
          for that. He also mentioned something else that it could be, but I don't
          remember what.

          Whatever it is it had appeared since the last ultrasound (March 13, 2002)
          and
          the last set of xrays (May 2002). And is probably the cause of that
          intermittant cough he has had since last spring.

          If it's nothing, Moth could be around the next 5 or 6 years and not be
          bothered by it at all. Afterall, Moth never has done as predicted or
          prognosed.

          Anyhow, the vet said that Moth's heart is the least of his problems. His
          heart was the same. No worse than what was there duing his last ultrasound
          and no sign of heart failure. But and a big but it was, with his bad heart,
          and now bad lungs, which he said the ultrasound showed no clearing up of and
          it was likely that they would never clear. And now this growth on his heart,
          Moth's prognosis is poor.

          As I said, because of the growth's location, they couldn't test nor remove
          it. Basically, other than continuing the heart meds and controling the
          pneumonia with antibiotics, there's nothing that they could do. And
          probably, he only has about 6 months.

          I don't even know why I'm writing this. I've spent the last 4 days, being
          optimistic, pessimistic, laughing over Moth's continued antics (He's still
          a
          bit slow, sleeping a lot, but when he wants to be, curious, active,
          mischievious, etc), and crying.

          I'm at a complete loss of what to do now. I want both a second opinion and
          to
          visit a holistic vet, but the costs aside (which I can't really afford right
          now), any time I try to get Moth into his carrier to go out, he freaks out.
          I
          mean severely freaks. He has never liked being transported, but it usually
          took only a few minutes to either convince or trick him into his carrier.
          But
          for the ultrasound visit, I had to get him from under the bed. (You have to
          understand that Moth is usually fearless. He never runs from anyone or
          anything) These past few attempts have taken literally 20 minutes at least
          to get him into the carrier. And that's 20 minutes of my just holding him
          to
          calm him down.

          It seems like I've fought so hard these past 3 years to keep him healthy
          and
          with me, only to now face this. He's going to die on me anyway.

          Annette
          ~~~~~~~~~~~
          Mr. P.K. Moth: Male DMH (suspected Maine Coon), diagnosed 8/2000 at approx.
          2
          years old with Tricuspid Valve Dysplasia (TVD), with secondary right heart
          failure: Grade 4 murmur, galloping rhythmn, severe thickening. Currently
          asymptomatic for heart failure. 1 mg Enalapril 2x/day. Vet approved
          supplements: 75 mg CoQ10, 250 mg Taurine, 500mg Lysine, each 1x/day.


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        • Kristen <tina111677@aol.com>
          Hello Annette, I know that you posted this a few days ago but I just read it and was wondering how your kitty was doing now. I hope that he is doing better
          Message 4 of 5 , Mar 3, 2003
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            Hello Annette,

            I know that you posted this a few days ago but I just read it and was
            wondering how your kitty was doing now. I hope that he is doing
            better and you were able to speak to another vet about his condition.

            In the words you wrote you sounded very upset and frustrated and I
            can imagine how you must feel. But remember it was worth the fight
            because even if, God forbid, Moth does not pull through this, you
            still had those three years with him which I am sure you are grateful
            for. Please don't lose hope which I am sure you won't. I hope that
            he is doing better and I will say a prayer for him.

            Kristen and Tommy

            --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, adawson1971@a... wrote:
            > Three weeks ago Tuesday, I had to rush Moth to the vet because he
            couldn't
            > catch his breath. A cough turned into rapid, labored breathing
            then into a
            > pant.
            >
            > Xrays revealed that he somehow had caught pneumonia. The vet on
            duty (his
            > regular vet was on vacation) said that his temperature had dropped
            indicating
            > that oxygen wasn't circulating in body, and it was a good thing
            that I had
            > gotten Moth there so quickly. Moth spent the night in intensive
            care in an
            > oxygen cage with some sort of heating source.
            >
            > In less than 20 minutes Moth went from fine to near death. I can't
            help
            > imagining what would have happened if I had not been working from
            home that
            > day.
            >
            > As is his nature, Moth rallied quickly (after about 12 hours on
            oxygen) and
            > was soon, (I'm told) purring, demanding attention, and walking
            around like he
            > owned the place. With a bottle of antibiotics, he was able to come
            home the
            > next evening. Within a few days, Moth was a bit slow, but nearly
            his old
            > self.
            >
            > The following Thursday, we returned to the hospital for a follow up
            exam and
            > xray. It showed that his lungs hadn't cleared. I noted to the vet
            who was
            > handling his case, (my vet was still away, but all the vets there
            are and
            > have been great. Seems Moth is rather famous, or is that infamous
            around the
            > place. I hear the techs fight over who gets to take care of him
            when he's
            > there. :-)) that Moth is somewhat resistant to Baytril, the
            antibiotic given.
            > And the last time we had needed one, we had switched to
            Azithromycin to get
            > rid of a nasty URI.
            >
            > We switched to the new antibiotic with a following week appointment
            for an
            > ultrasound, which Moth was due for anyway. As we were "packing up'
            the vet
            > remarked in passing that she was glad the ultrasound was only a few
            days
            > away, as she was really interested in seeing what the specialist
            had to say
            > about an odd shadow appearing on the xray.
            >
            > Okay, so I drop him off Tuesday morning and at about 1pm they
            called and said
            > he's finished and that I could come pick him up any time. I go in
            to pick him
            > up, and my regular vet who's back by this time asks if I could hang
            around,
            > that he wanted to talk to me. They found something rather dramatic
            during the
            > ultrasound.
            >
            > Gosh, I'm not sure why I'm dragging this out.
            >
            > What they found was a tumor growing on his heart. Some sort of
            growth
            > anyway. Because it's located in an area where there are lots of
            veins and
            > arteries and such, they can't test it. So they really don't know
            what it is.
            > Moth's only 5, he noted and it's unusual for a cat so young to get
            cancer,
            > but not impossible. I could be an enlarged lymph node (enlarged due
            to the
            > pneumonia), but the cardiac ultrasound specialist said the shape
            seemed wrong
            > for that. He also mentioned something else that it could be, but I
            don't
            > remember what.
            >
            > Whatever it is it had appeared since the last ultrasound (March 13,
            2002) and
            > the last set of xrays (May 2002). And is probably the cause of
            that
            > intermittant cough he has had since last spring.
            >
            > If it's nothing, Moth could be around the next 5 or 6 years and not
            be
            > bothered by it at all. Afterall, Moth never has done as predicted
            or
            > prognosed.
            >
            > Anyhow, the vet said that Moth's heart is the least of his
            problems. His
            > heart was the same. No worse than what was there duing his last
            ultrasound
            > and no sign of heart failure. But and a big but it was, with his
            bad heart,
            > and now bad lungs, which he said the ultrasound showed no clearing
            up of and
            > it was likely that they would never clear. And now this growth on
            his heart,
            > Moth's prognosis is poor.
            >
            > As I said, because of the growth's location, they couldn't test nor
            remove
            > it. Basically, other than continuing the heart meds and controling
            the
            > pneumonia with antibiotics, there's nothing that they could do.
            And
            > probably, he only has about 6 months.
            >
            > I don't even know why I'm writing this. I've spent the last 4
            days, being
            > optimistic, pessimistic, laughing over Moth's continued antics
            (He's still a
            > bit slow, sleeping a lot, but when he wants to be, curious, active,
            > mischievious, etc), and crying.
            >
            > I'm at a complete loss of what to do now. I want both a second
            opinion and to
            > visit a holistic vet, but the costs aside (which I can't really
            afford right
            > now), any time I try to get Moth into his carrier to go out, he
            freaks out. I
            > mean severely freaks. He has never liked being transported, but it
            usually
            > took only a few minutes to either convince or trick him into his
            carrier. But
            > for the ultrasound visit, I had to get him from under the bed. (You
            have to
            > understand that Moth is usually fearless. He never runs from anyone
            or
            > anything) These past few attempts have taken literally 20 minutes
            at least
            > to get him into the carrier. And that's 20 minutes of my just
            holding him to
            > calm him down.
            >
            > It seems like I've fought so hard these past 3 years to keep him
            healthy and
            > with me, only to now face this. He's going to die on me anyway.
            >
            > Annette
            > ~~~~~~~~~~~
            > Mr. P.K. Moth: Male DMH (suspected Maine Coon), diagnosed 8/2000 at
            approx. 2
            > years old with Tricuspid Valve Dysplasia (TVD), with secondary
            right heart
            > failure: Grade 4 murmur, galloping rhythmn, severe thickening.
            Currently
            > asymptomatic for heart failure. 1 mg Enalapril 2x/day. Vet approved
            > supplements: 75 mg CoQ10, 250 mg Taurine, 500mg Lysine, each 1x/day.
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          • Sally J.Smith <sallymerlin@yahoo.com>
            Dear Annette (aka Mom O Moth) I send you warm and compassion-filled hugs. You and Mr.Moth have been thru so much already and your situation sounds really
            Message 5 of 5 , Mar 3, 2003
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              Dear Annette (aka Mom O Moth)

              I send you warm and compassion-filled hugs.

              You and Mr.Moth have been thru so much already and your situation
              sounds really difficult....my heart goes out to you both! I know how
              special he is...my Muffin was just like that too....everyone wanted to
              see him, he just had that special kind of charm!

              I do have a few ideas about easing the stress of travel...it takes
              some time but you can usually de-sensitize them to the carrying
              kennel.

              Firstly just leave it around the house...make it be just another
              piece of furniture. Make sure there is a nice soft cloth in there. The
              polar fleece stuff is great because it washes easily but is very warm
              and cozy...catnip helps too!
              Leave occassional treats or toys in there. And if you see him
              express interest in the box praise and PET him right away...stroking
              will reassure him and help "ground" his association of
              box = approval from Mom.

              When he is comfortable with having the box around and when you
              sense it may be safe to "challenge" him a little, try enticing him
              into the box and closing the door. Play with him thru the sides of the
              crate and constantly praise him. Rescue remedy is good at this point.
              Have him stay in only as long as he seems able to accept it and let
              him out right away when he seems to be getting edgy. LOTS of praise
              and cuddles and treats when he comes out, even if it's only been 10
              seconds...absolutely do not push him beyond his comfort zone.

              Give him a day or two to "adjust" and try it again. Gradually he
              should be able to stay in there for a few minutes without the big
              panic. Pick up the crate...carry him around...but always make a BIG
              deal out of it when he is doing well with it and try not to make him
              do any more than he can handle...he needs to gradually re-program his
              reaction to the space and experience of being in the crate.

              Finally, once he's ok with being in the crate at home, try the
              same gradual set of steps going first just out to the car, then
              sitting in the car, then starting the car etc. All at rates that HE
              can accept and deal with. Once he's good at this, try driving around
              the block, then a few longer rides etc. The key is to build slowly and
              have it be a pleasurable and joy-filled event for BOTH of you.

              I'm sure that Mr Moth, the sensitive New Age kinda guy that he
              is, was picking up on YOUR panic over having to use the crate again
              and this would certainly be adding to his bad reaction.

              As for how to deal with his mysterious growth...I have no
              experience with this, but I'm sure that you will get whatever it is
              that you need to meet this challenge. Perhaps some cutting edge micro
              surgery like they use for babies still in the womb might be available.
              Or you may decide that you want to take a low impact approach and just
              enjoy a very high quality of life with whatever days you have left
              together...

              One thing I do know...Moth loves you no matter what you choose
              and you and he will never be parted even if he must make his way
              across the bridge...those are not just words...they are a very real
              Truth. Mr Moth will always be a part of you and you will do what is
              best for him, no matter what you decide. Both my Mom and my Dad have
              had bouts with pneumonia and it can be caused by some pretty tough
              bugs...you may be right around the corner from finding the right
              antibiotic for him. Could it possibly be a mold pathogen? That is what
              got my Mom...apparently mold forms are more rare and they did not
              think to look/test for it when she was sick...perhaps Mr Moth will be
              able to clear his lungs on his own...it just may take some more time.

              Also, you may want to ask your vet about having O2 at home...it
              might be just the thing to assist his body in regenerating his immune
              system since it's been under such stress.

              When you do go to the alternative vet, be sure to ask about
              accupuncture and also some injections of homeopathic CoQ10...it helped
              Muffin a good bit when he was poorly. My vet added B12 to the
              shot...the shot was apparently a bit of a sting, but he was much
              improved even after just 12 hours, so it was always worth it.

              And finally, be sure you are taking good care of yourself
              too....I know that Red Chestnut Bach flower remedy is very good for us
              caregivers when things are going not in our favour...and chunks of
              rose quartz are very healing...for both of you!

              Hugs to you both and please keep us posted.

              Sally and Angel Muffin



              > Annette
              > ~~~~~~~~~~~
              > Mr. P.K. Moth: Male DMH (suspected Maine Coon), diagnosed 8/2000 at
              approx. 2
              > years old with Tricuspid Valve Dysplasia (TVD), with secondary right
              heart
              > failure: Grade 4 murmur, galloping rhythmn, severe thickening.
              Currently
              > asymptomatic for heart failure. 1 mg Enalapril 2x/day. Vet approved
              > supplements: 75 mg CoQ10, 250 mg Taurine, 500mg Lysine, each 1x/day.
              >
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