Re: [feline-heart] CRF plus CHF - help!
why do you *have* to give fluids? Does Honey get dehydrated without them? I
know you are a big advocate of fluids generally, but Dr Kathy believes most
cats don't need them until Crea is over 3.5, and from what you say, Honey's
Crea is normal. Even if Honey does need *some* fluids, it is obvious that
the amounts you are giving are far too high for her heart to cope with.
I don't know if you saw Dr Kathy's post last week that said very few cats
need more than 100ml a day. In fact, my Thomas does need 200ml a day, but
his creatinine is over 7, and he doesn't have heart problems. You yourself
say Honey has mild CRF so I doubt very much that Honey needs as much as you
are giving. As Agnes said, you are treating a heart patient who also happens
to have CRF, not the other way round, so I think you need to re-consider
your approach. Do you know what the heart medication is that you are using?
Here is Jim's site re congestive heart failure - warning signs to look out
HTH, good luck
> i got a new thing to struggle with, my honey who is hyperthyroid/heartmurmur/MILD crf, is having a bout of (i think) severe
> congestive heart failure. this is new territory for me and veryfrightening. i dont know what the objectives of treatment are, or
> what...give some fluids, but i HAVE to drain them out with diuretics
> i know this is a tightrope walk, with the crf and the heart. i HAVE to
> because upon xray thursday, her lungs were FULL of fluid.of some type of steriod (probaby dexamethasone) because he
> the vet gave her a shot of a diuretic, and a shot (wish i knew how much)
> thought he heard a wheezing... we came home with lasix 12.5 mg (give 1/2once a day, but that is not seeming to be enough), some
> heart pills (give 1/6 per day) and she has been on baytril and antirobebecause of her teeth which cannot be worked on.
>and also this morning. but not this evening! listless,
> friday she seemed quite a lot better, peed a lot and acted much hungrier,
> doesnt want to eat, very weak. gave her the lasix and heart pill at midday, and by evening empowered myself to give her another 1/2
> tablet of lasix because her breathing seemed a little too labored again.also dr said i would have to continue the fluids (as well i
> last night i did give her 100 ml's of ringers because she NEEDED IT and
> know) because of her kidneys. but tonight even tho she feels a littlesticky, i am going to skip them. normally i would give her
> 200 to 250 a day, maybe skip a day here and there. and her numbers for crfhave been "perfect" - the numbers of someone without crf.
>is too much and just what the emphasis should be and what
> i hate being stuck on the weekend like this. i want to know how much lasix
> type of equilibrium to look for, for her. and what about her tapazole...is it better for heart/kidneys (when there is chf) for the
> t4 to be on the low side of normal, or high side of normal?anyone has, who has battled with this. thanks.
> this is killing me. i sure would appreciate any experiences or advice
> Teresa Strano - Please see my 4 "Twice Abandoned" kitties athttp://imom.org/pin/strano_kitties.htm