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  • tsmjbear
    My sweet boy was found to have hcm about 2 yrs ago he being treated with atenolol and at his last check up he passed with flying colors but the atenolol makes
    Message 1 of 8 , Jun 15, 2014
      My sweet boy was found to have hcm about 2 yrs ago he being treated with atenolol and at his last check up he passed with flying colors but the atenolol makes him sleep all the time and about a week ago he has had a mild dry cough should I worrie about chf I also started him on coq10 and his spunk is back is that ok to use with atenolol
    • Westgold
      A cough could be a sign of fluid building up in the lungs, he needs to be checked out asap. you may have to start him on some lasix or something similar, to
      Message 2 of 8 , Jun 15, 2014
        
        A cough could be a sign of fluid building up in the lungs, he needs to be checked out asap.  you may have to start him on some lasix or something similar, to keep the fluid under control.  Do you have a cardiologist? 
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        My sweet boy was found to have hcm about 2 yrs ago he being treated with atenolol and at his last check up he passed with flying colors but the atenolol makes him sleep all the time and about a week ago he has had a mild dry cough should I worrie about chf I also started him on coq10 and his spunk is back is that ok to use with atenolol




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      • Elfinmyst
        Hi Mine have been on atenolol for years and it seems to certainly slow the heart disease. They also have CoQ 10 and plenty of other drugs as needed, so apart
        Message 3 of 8 , Jun 16, 2014
          Hi

          Mine have been on atenolol for years and it seems to certainly slow the heart disease. They also have CoQ 10 and plenty of other drugs as needed, so apart from Coq10 can't be stopped suddenly, I found it a good combination. If he is ever hospitalised make sure the CoQ 10 goes in with him and insist he gets it.

          A cough can be a sign of fluid as the previous poster said. Always worth checking out ASAP or it may be an infection or allergy. Either way needs a quick check at the vet to be sure.

          Lyn

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        • tsmjbear
          I have moved and the to vets I have taken tucker to say cats with hcm don t cough and they did not do a x ray even when I ask they both brush me off and say
          Message 4 of 8 , Jun 16, 2014
            I have moved and the to vets I have taken tucker to say cats with hcm don't cough and they did not do a x ray even when I ask they both brush me off and say well his lungs sound good and he is 11 yrs old I think you all r right about the fluid build up in the lungs and in the last to days the coq10 has him up and playing a lot more I also gave him parsley last night and he was in the litter box a lot but he did not cough at all this moring It deffently got rid of some water I hate vets that just think your pet is to old to wast there time on
          • Elfinmyst
            Hi Everyday vets are like GPs, they aren t specialists and may only see a few HCM cases a year or less. The cardiologist is a specialist and works only with
            Message 5 of 8 , Jun 16, 2014
              Hi

              Everyday vets are like GPs, they aren't specialists and may only see a few HCM cases a year or less. The cardiologist is a specialist and works only with feline hearts so has more knowledge and access to data studies available. But if you don't trust your vet and they can't work with you, I would recommend trying an alternative practice, it is vital you work together. Coughing can be caused by heart failure (see feline cardiac cough search on google)  as it can be like pneumonia with fluid in the lungs. I agree its not a common symptom, but is one my cats have had in the past and cardiac cough is known in humans.

              Lyn
            • CLPlatts
              After a nasty experience with traditional medicine and prescription drugs for myself I started to look into safer alternatives. The offending HBP diuretic was
              Message 6 of 8 , Jun 17, 2014

                After a nasty experience with traditional medicine and prescription drugs for myself I started to look into safer alternatives. The offending HBP diuretic was replaced with dandelion root. I also replaced all but one of my meds with alternatives. This got me thinking about my cats and a lot of the nasty side effects patented medicines have so I did some research and found there are alternatives. Many can be given in conjunction with prescription drugs from your vet who hopefully will be open to the idea (mine has an attitude that if it works for the pet he’s all for it and works with me)

                Any way I learned that dandelion is safe for cats and one of my info sources has a nice article on this. Note they are a multi species site so this article talks about dogs and cats. The thing about almost all alternatives is that they can be purchased over the counter and can be used safely especially in an emergency until you can get to the vet.

                This is a link to the article I hope it helps Also the dosage is toward the bottom of the article

                http://petremedycharts.blogspot.com/2010/08/herbs-to-treat-heart-disease-in-dogs.html

                 

                Cherie P

                 

              • Leigh Arrathoon
                Good for you! My two Maine Coons have been taking Dandelion Root (1 capsule) for 9 years. One of them, in conjunction with B6, because he retains fluid, and
                Message 7 of 8 , Jun 17, 2014
                  Good for you! My two Maine Coons have been taking Dandelion Root (1 capsule) for 9 years. One of them, in conjunction with B6, because he retains fluid, and the other because he has a sensitive tummy.
                  Leigh


                  On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:59 AM, 'CLPlatts' clplatts@... [feline-heart] <feline-heart-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                   

                  After a nasty experience with traditional medicine and prescription drugs for myself I started to look into safer alternatives. The offending HBP diuretic was replaced with dandelion root. I also replaced all but one of my meds with alternatives. This got me thinking about my cats and a lot of the nasty side effects patented medicines have so I did some research and found there are alternatives. Many can be given in conjunction with prescription drugs from your vet who hopefully will be open to the idea (mine has an attitude that if it works for the pet he’s all for it and works with me)

                  Any way I learned that dandelion is safe for cats and one of my info sources has a nice article on this. Note they are a multi species site so this article talks about dogs and cats. The thing about almost all alternatives is that they can be purchased over the counter and can be used safely especially in an emergency until you can get to the vet.

                  This is a link to the article I hope it helps Also the dosage is toward the bottom of the article

                  http://petremedycharts.blogspot.com/2010/08/herbs-to-treat-heart-disease-in-dogs.html

                   

                  Cherie P

                   


                • tsmjbear4
                  Thank everyone so much for all the helpful advice for 11 yr old tucker I took him to the 3 new vet today good news no fluid build up on the x ray and no murmur
                  Message 8 of 8 , Jun 18, 2014
                    Thank everyone so much for all the helpful advice for 11 yr old tucker I took him to the 3 new vet today good news no fluid build up on the x ray and no murmur was heard he has a slight irregular heart beat but that is to be expected for a heart that is 3 times to big I think any way the vet said his cough could be from the atenolol so he wants me to stop the atenolol and give him vetmedin I have a bad feeling about vetmedin it has just been approved for cat but all the info I found is that it only for chf and valve problems and lots of info that says not to give to dogs or cats with hcm because it will do damage do you think I should try it
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