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  • elise eisfelder
    Does it sort of sound like a grunting noise, pretty soft? Max started that last week. The cardiologist said it isn t a cardio issue and the radiologist said
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      Does it sort of sound like a grunting noise, pretty soft? Max started that last week. The cardiologist said it isn't a cardio issue and the radiologist said the lungs are fine. The cardiologist said perhaps congestion or pain. If you figure out who to ask about it let us know.

      Elise
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      Digest #6108

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      Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

      "Westgold" westgold12

      Hi -- you can get many kinds of Omega3 from the place I use, puritan.com -- the prices are the best and they ship immediately. The softgels are very big, but you can just puncture them and squeeze the contents into the food. They do have pure salmon oil too. I have been using this place for all my supplements for 40 years now.

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      Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:40 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

      pray4animals


      Hello

      I see an old post that you used Neprinol on your cat? Did you notice any side effects like not eating or anemia from the neprinol? How did your baby do?

      I was given neprinol afd by an integrative vet for a kidney cyst and I am worried about side effects because there is little data about use on cats.

      Thank you
      Eric

      Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

      "Carol" carolroars

      hi Eric,

      I'm a little confused as to why the vet gave you the Neprinol for a kidney cyst. Neprinol is a combination of anti-fibrinolytic enzymes and anti-inflamatory enzymes. Here is the link to the manufacturer's ingredient explanations.
      http://www.neprinol.com/neprinol-ingredients-2-2/#aam_switcher_wrapper

      The Serrapeptase, Nattokinase are the anti-fibrinolytic enzymes. Nattokinase is commonly used to prevent and dissolve blood clots. The Lipase is a digestive enzyme that breaks down fats. Protease breaks down proteins. Amla is Indian Gooseberry, typically used as an antioxidant, is very high in Vitamin C. http://www.herbalprovider.com/amla.html

      Papain and Bromelain are the enzymes from papaya (papain) and pineapple (bromelain), and when taken on an empty stomach act as anti-inflamatories. When taken with food, they act as digestive enzymes. Rutin is a bioflavonoid that is used in reducing fluid build-up in cats with chylothorax. It also has anti-clotting properties. CoQ10 is an anti-oxidant that is often used to improve heart function. Magnesium supports blood viscosity.

      >>
      Proprietary blend neprinol AFD 500 mg, systemic and lipolytic enzyme blend (serrapeptase, nattokinase, lipase) neprinol protease blend (protease derived from serratia B. subtilis and A oryzae) neprinol enzyme and cofactor blend (amla, papain, bromelain, rutin, coenzyme Q10, magnesium) 15,000 FU.

      >>

      This supplement has a lot of ingredients in it, some of which might be duplicated in other supplements, so I'd make sure that you don't also give separately any Nattokinase or Vitamin C, since this supplement has quite a lot of those in it. This also has magnesium, which can cause diarrhea. I'd be very interested to know why the vet prescribed this for a kidney cyst.

      Carol

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      Sent: Mon, Apr 28, 2014 7:40 pm
      Subject: [FH] Someone on here used neprinol.... need to know some things please

      Hello

      I see an old post that you used Neprinol on your cat? Did you notice any side effects like not eating or anemia from the neprinol? How did your baby do?

      I was given neprinol afd by an integrative vet for a kidney cyst and I am worried about side effects because there is little data about use on cats.

      Thank you
      Eric

      Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

      "JOSIE NEWMAN"

      hi

      I've noticed that Chloie has breathing which sounds like somebody who has bronchitis or else is an ex-smoker. this is heard only when I put my ear up close to her head and throat. I have noticed it off and on but more on recently. I mentioned it to her cardiologist but she always says she knows nothing about upper respiratory noises. (not sure who does know if she doesn't! ). This worries me a lot and I am wondering if anybody else has noticed this kind of breathing noise with their heart kitties? Chloie has RCH and is in CHF, so these sounds may be specific to her disease. I don't know.

      thanks
      Josie and little Chloie


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    • JOSIE NEWMAN
      I will. you would hope with all the time and love and money we spend, the experts should know.........it seems to be a liability issue that they never want
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        I will. you would hope with all the time and love and money we spend, the "experts" should know.........it seems to be a liability issue that they never want to comment on something which isn't exactly within their jurisdiction as a specialist.
         

         

        To: notify-dg-feline-heart@yahoogroups.com; feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
        From: eeisfelder@...
        Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:49:13 -0700
        Subject: Re: [FH] Digest Number 6108

         
        Does it sort of sound like a grunting noise, pretty soft? Max started that last week. The cardiologist said it isn't a cardio issue and the radiologist said the lungs are fine. The cardiologist said perhaps congestion or pain. If you figure out who to ask about it let us know.

        Elise
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        Digest #6108

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        Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

        "Westgold" westgold12

        Hi -- you can get many kinds of Omega3 from the place I use, puritan.com -- the prices are the best and they ship immediately. The softgels are very big, but you can just puncture them and squeeze the contents into the food. They do have pure salmon oil too. I have been using this place for all my supplements for 40 years now.

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        Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:40 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

        pray4animals


        Hello

        I see an old post that you used Neprinol on your cat? Did you notice any side effects like not eating or anemia from the neprinol? How did your baby do?

        I was given neprinol afd by an integrative vet for a kidney cyst and I am worried about side effects because there is little data about use on cats.

        Thank you
        Eric

        Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

        "Carol" carolroars

        hi Eric,

        I'm a little confused as to why the vet gave you the Neprinol for a kidney cyst. Neprinol is a combination of anti-fibrinolytic enzymes and anti-inflamatory enzymes. Here is the link to the manufacturer's ingredient explanations.
        http://www.neprinol.com/neprinol-ingredients-2-2/#aam_switcher_wrapper

        The Serrapeptase, Nattokinase are the anti-fibrinolytic enzymes. Nattokinase is commonly used to prevent and dissolve blood clots. The Lipase is a digestive enzyme that breaks down fats. Protease breaks down proteins. Amla is Indian Gooseberry, typically used as an antioxidant, is very high in Vitamin C. http://www.herbalprovider.com/amla.html

        Papain and Bromelain are the enzymes from papaya (papain) and pineapple (bromelain), and when taken on an empty stomach act as anti-inflamatories. When taken with food, they act as digestive enzymes. Rutin is a bioflavonoid that is used in reducing fluid build-up in cats with chylothorax. It also has anti-clotting properties. CoQ10 is an anti-oxidant that is often used to improve heart function. Magnesium supports blood viscosity.

        >>
        Proprietary blend neprinol AFD 500 mg, systemic and lipolytic enzyme blend (serrapeptase, nattokinase, lipase) neprinol protease blend (protease derived from serratia B. subtilis and A oryzae) neprinol enzyme and cofactor blend (amla, papain, bromelain, rutin, coenzyme Q10, magnesium) 15,000 FU.

        >>

        This supplement has a lot of ingredients in it, some of which might be duplicated in other supplements, so I'd make sure that you don't also give separately any Nattokinase or Vitamin C, since this supplement has quite a lot of those in it. This also has magnesium, which can cause diarrhea. I'd be very interested to know why the vet prescribed this for a kidney cyst.

        Carol

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        From: pray4animals <pray4animals@...>
        To: feline-heart <feline-heart@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Mon, Apr 28, 2014 7:40 pm
        Subject: [FH] Someone on here used neprinol.... need to know some things please

        Hello

        I see an old post that you used Neprinol on your cat? Did you notice any side effects like not eating or anemia from the neprinol? How did your baby do?

        I was given neprinol afd by an integrative vet for a kidney cyst and I am worried about side effects because there is little data about use on cats.

        Thank you
        Eric

        Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

        "JOSIE NEWMAN"

        hi

        I've noticed that Chloie has breathing which sounds like somebody who has bronchitis or else is an ex-smoker. this is heard only when I put my ear up close to her head and throat. I have noticed it off and on but more on recently. I mentioned it to her cardiologist but she always says she knows nothing about upper respiratory noises. (not sure who does know if she doesn't! ). This worries me a lot and I am wondering if anybody else has noticed this kind of breathing noise with their heart kitties? Chloie has RCH and is in CHF, so these sounds may be specific to her disease. I don't know.

        thanks
        Josie and little Chloie


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      • JOSIE NEWMAN
        not grunting, more like a bit raspy as if something is caught in the throat. that s why I say it sounds like someone with bronchitis or an ex-smoker. i.e. a
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           not grunting, more like a bit raspy as if something is caught in the throat. that's why I say it sounds like someone with bronchitis or an ex-smoker. i.e. a little wheezy or whistly when I put my ear up close to her head.
           

          To: notify-dg-feline-heart@yahoogroups.com; feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
          From: eeisfelder@...
          Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:49:13 -0700
          Subject: Re: [FH] Digest Number 6108

           
          Does it sort of sound like a grunting noise, pretty soft? Max started that last week. The cardiologist said it isn't a cardio issue and the radiologist said the lungs are fine. The cardiologist said perhaps congestion or pain. If you figure out who to ask about it let us know.

          Elise
          On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:59 AM, "feline-heart@yahoogroups.com" <feline-heart@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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          Digest #6108

          Messages

          Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

          "Westgold" westgold12

          Hi -- you can get many kinds of Omega3 from the place I use, puritan.com -- the prices are the best and they ship immediately. The softgels are very big, but you can just puncture them and squeeze the contents into the food. They do have pure salmon oil too. I have been using this place for all my supplements for 40 years now.

          ---
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          Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:40 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

          pray4animals


          Hello

          I see an old post that you used Neprinol on your cat? Did you notice any side effects like not eating or anemia from the neprinol? How did your baby do?

          I was given neprinol afd by an integrative vet for a kidney cyst and I am worried about side effects because there is little data about use on cats.

          Thank you
          Eric

          Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

          "Carol" carolroars

          hi Eric,

          I'm a little confused as to why the vet gave you the Neprinol for a kidney cyst. Neprinol is a combination of anti-fibrinolytic enzymes and anti-inflamatory enzymes. Here is the link to the manufacturer's ingredient explanations.
          http://www.neprinol.com/neprinol-ingredients-2-2/#aam_switcher_wrapper

          The Serrapeptase, Nattokinase are the anti-fibrinolytic enzymes. Nattokinase is commonly used to prevent and dissolve blood clots. The Lipase is a digestive enzyme that breaks down fats. Protease breaks down proteins. Amla is Indian Gooseberry, typically used as an antioxidant, is very high in Vitamin C. http://www.herbalprovider.com/amla.html

          Papain and Bromelain are the enzymes from papaya (papain) and pineapple (bromelain), and when taken on an empty stomach act as anti-inflamatories. When taken with food, they act as digestive enzymes. Rutin is a bioflavonoid that is used in reducing fluid build-up in cats with chylothorax. It also has anti-clotting properties. CoQ10 is an anti-oxidant that is often used to improve heart function. Magnesium supports blood viscosity.

          >>
          Proprietary blend neprinol AFD 500 mg, systemic and lipolytic enzyme blend (serrapeptase, nattokinase, lipase) neprinol protease blend (protease derived from serratia B. subtilis and A oryzae) neprinol enzyme and cofactor blend (amla, papain, bromelain, rutin, coenzyme Q10, magnesium) 15,000 FU.

          >>

          This supplement has a lot of ingredients in it, some of which might be duplicated in other supplements, so I'd make sure that you don't also give separately any Nattokinase or Vitamin C, since this supplement has quite a lot of those in it. This also has magnesium, which can cause diarrhea. I'd be very interested to know why the vet prescribed this for a kidney cyst.

          Carol

          ----Original Message-----
          From: pray4animals <pray4animals@...>
          To: feline-heart <feline-heart@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Mon, Apr 28, 2014 7:40 pm
          Subject: [FH] Someone on here used neprinol.... need to know some things please

          Hello

          I see an old post that you used Neprinol on your cat? Did you notice any side effects like not eating or anemia from the neprinol? How did your baby do?

          I was given neprinol afd by an integrative vet for a kidney cyst and I am worried about side effects because there is little data about use on cats.

          Thank you
          Eric

          Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

          "JOSIE NEWMAN"

          hi

          I've noticed that Chloie has breathing which sounds like somebody who has bronchitis or else is an ex-smoker. this is heard only when I put my ear up close to her head and throat. I have noticed it off and on but more on recently. I mentioned it to her cardiologist but she always says she knows nothing about upper respiratory noises. (not sure who does know if she doesn't! ). This worries me a lot and I am wondering if anybody else has noticed this kind of breathing noise with their heart kitties? Chloie has RCH and is in CHF, so these sounds may be specific to her disease. I don't know.

          thanks
          Josie and little Chloie


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