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Sad and tired Saphie

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  • missmeow63
    Hi, just wondering if anybody can shed some light on Saphie, she seems a bit down, she s recently lost a bit of weight which we put down to the increase of
    Message 1 of 8 , Mar 22, 2014
      Hi, just wondering if anybody can shed some light on Saphie, she seems a bit down, she's recently lost a bit of weight which we put  down to the increase of furosemide, she's currently taking 10mg morning 5mg afternoon and 10mg evening , could this have anything to do with making her loose weight and be tired? She also takes vetmedin , Fortekor and Plavix and aspirin.
      My vet did suggest adding spiro as well but specialist thought it may be too weak and did suggest another diuretic but can't remember the name but began with T.  Was wondering if we added another diuretic and dropped the  furosemide it would help her ?
      Thanks for your help
      Mandy & Saphie       
    • Laurie Stead
      Sounds like you have the fluid under control?  I don t think adding an additional diuretic would help with the symptoms you mention.  Was recent blood work
      Message 2 of 8 , Mar 22, 2014
        Sounds like you have the fluid under control?  I don't think adding an additional diuretic would help with the symptoms you mention.  Was recent blood work done?  There are other things that can cause lethargy and weight loss.  Does she have an appetite but continues to lose weight or is she just not interested in food? 

        Laurie


        On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:22 AM, "missmeow63@..." <missmeow63@...> wrote:
         
        Hi, just wondering if anybody can shed some light on Saphie, she seems a bit down, she's recently lost a bit of weight which we put  down to the increase of furosemide, she's currently taking 10mg morning 5mg afternoon and 10mg evening , could this have anything to do with making her loose weight and be tired? She also takes vetmedin , Fortekor and Plavix and aspirin.
        My vet did suggest adding spiro as well but specialist thought it may be too weak and did suggest another diuretic but can't remember the name but began with T.  Was wondering if we added another diuretic and dropped the  furosemide it would help her ?
        Thanks for your help
        Mandy & Saphie       


      • marianna.mayer
        My thoughts as well, Laurie. I had the same questions after reading Mandy s post. And, though adding additional fluids to a heart cat s daily intake can be a
        Message 3 of 8 , Mar 22, 2014
          My thoughts as well, Laurie. I had the same questions after reading Mandy's post.
           
          And, though adding additional fluids to a 'heart' cat's daily intake can be a mistake without your cardio specialist's strict guidance...dehydration can be a factor for lethargy, lack of appetite [if this is also true for Saphie], and weight loss.
          Marianna
          -----Original Message-----
          From: Laurie Stead <kittykatwhiskas@...>
          To: feline-heart <>
          Sent: Sat, Mar 22, 2014 11:58 am
          Subject: Re: [FH] Sad and tired Saphie

           
          Sounds like you have the fluid under control?  I don't think adding an additional diuretic would help with the symptoms you mention.  Was recent blood work done?  There are other things that can cause lethargy and weight loss.  Does she have an appetite but continues to lose weight or is she just not interested in food? 

          Laurie


          On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:22 AM, "missmeow63@..." <> wrote:
           
          Hi, just wondering if anybody can shed some light on Saphie, she seems a bit down, she's recently lost a bit of weight which we put  down to the increase of furosemide, she's currently taking 10mg morning 5mg afternoon and 10mg evening , could this have anything to do with making her loose weight and be tired? She also takes vetmedin , Fortekor and Plavix and aspirin.
          My vet did suggest adding spiro as well but specialist thought it may be too weak and did suggest another diuretic but can't remember the name but began with T.  Was wondering if we added another diuretic and dropped the  furosemide it would help her ?
          Thanks for your help
          Mandy & Saphie       


        • marianna.mayer
          Meant to also ask...how are her kidney levels? How recently has Saphie had kidney enzyme testing? Marianna ... From: mmayer11 To:
          Message 4 of 8 , Mar 22, 2014
            Meant to also ask...how are her kidney levels? How recently has Saphie had kidney enzyme testing?
            Marianna
            -----Original Message-----
            From: mmayer11 <mmayer11@...>
            To: kittykatwhiskas <kittykatwhiskas@...>; feline-heart <feline-heart@yahoogroups.com>; missmeow63 <missmeow63@...>
            Sent: Sat, Mar 22, 2014 12:39 pm
            Subject: Re: [FH] Sad and tired Saphie

             
            My thoughts as well, Laurie. I had the same questions after reading Mandy's post.
             
            And, though adding additional fluids to a 'heart' cat's daily intake can be a mistake without your cardio specialist's strict guidance...dehydration can be a factor for lethargy, lack of appetite [if this is also true for Saphie], and weight loss.
            Marianna
            -----Original Message-----
            From: Laurie Stead <kittykatwhiskas@...>
            To: feline-heart <>
            Sent: Sat, Mar 22, 2014 11:58 am
            Subject: Re: [FH] Sad and tired Saphie

             
            Sounds like you have the fluid under control?  I don't think adding an additional diuretic would help with the symptoms you mention.  Was recent blood work done?  There are other things that can cause lethargy and weight loss.  Does she have an appetite but continues to lose weight or is she just not interested in food? 

            Laurie


            On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:22 AM, "missmeow63@..." <> wrote:
             
            Hi, just wondering if anybody can shed some light on Saphie, she seems a bit down, she's recently lost a bit of weight which we put  down to the increase of furosemide, she's currently taking 10mg morning 5mg afternoon and 10mg evening , could this have anything to do with making her loose weight and be tired? She also takes vetmedin , Fortekor and Plavix and aspirin.
            My vet did suggest adding spiro as well but specialist thought it may be too weak and did suggest another diuretic but can't remember the name but began with T.  Was wondering if we added another diuretic and dropped the  furosemide it would help her ?
            Thanks for your help
            Mandy & Saphie       


          • Elfinmyst
            Hi Mandy My first thought is potassium. Has she had this tested? A high dose of diuretic will need potassium supplement. In the UK that is kaminox which is a
            Message 5 of 8 , Mar 22, 2014
              Hi Mandy

              My first thought is potassium. Has she had this tested? A high dose of diuretic will need potassium supplement. In the UK that is kaminox which is a beefy liquid and easy to give. 
              What dose of all meds is she on?  And if this started after vetmedin, maybe that needs reducing too? Can you post all her med doses please.

              Lyn
            • missmeow63
              Hi, thank you for help with Saphie, sorry it s taken so long to reply, I couldn t figure out how to reply to group, think some of you may have emails from me
              Message 6 of 8 , Mar 22, 2014
                Hi, thank you for help with Saphie, sorry it's taken so long to reply, I couldn't figure out how to reply to group, think some of you may have emails from me instead!  Saphie's bloods was done about a month ago before we increased her Furosmide and they was all ok , after having emailed Lyn yesterday I will be getting her bloods done again tomorrow , our vets are open today but Saphies vet won't be on and I like to stay with the same one. But will be speaking with them to see if they can give me a potassium supplement, as she's on a very high dose of Furosemide. 
                Have to say Saphie does seem a bit brighter today and running round the house, but will still get her bloods down a.s.a.p
                Thank you 

                Mandy & Saphie 
              • missmeow63
                Just a quick update on Saphie, think the weekends tiredness may if been down to a furball, got up yesterday morning to find Saphie had brought up a huge
                Message 7 of 8 , Mar 24, 2014
                  Just a quick update on Saphie, think the weekends tiredness may if been down to a furball, got up yesterday morning to find Saphie had brought up a huge furball and was running around very happy and playing , I still took her to vets just to play safe and got her bloods checked and happy to say all her bloods was fine and no change from last months bloods. Just need to keep on top of furball so she don't go through this again, thank you all for your support.

                  Mandy & Saphie
                • Elfinmyst
                  Hi Mandy Another crisis averted, don t they scare us! Not everything is due to heart disease I learned, but you can t take that chance. Always best to be sure,
                  Message 8 of 8 , Mar 25, 2014
                    Hi Mandy

                    Another crisis averted, don't they scare us! Not everything is due to heart disease I learned, but you can't take that chance.
                    Always best to be sure, was her potassium ok?

                    Also this one was for group, they keep coming to me only:) For the kittie with RCM 

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: keycmv <keycmv@...>
                    To: elfinmyst <elfinmyst@...>
                    Sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:32
                    Subject: Re: RCM and Kidney failure

                    20+ year old Gump (and us) has been dealing with kidney issues for 7 years and heart issues for a 3+ years.  He has HCM, CRF, hypo-thyroid, and some funky neurological thing going (or strokes, don't really know).  

                    It's a delicate balance, but can be handled.  Due to moderate to severe HCM, the vet has nixed subQs for him, so dehydration will require a drip.  We just put lots of water in his food to help prevent it.

                    Carol
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