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Fw: Romeeoh's Biopsy Results

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  • Mirsades
    I sent this to the pancreatitis group last night but because he has a heart issue, wanted to get opinions from the group also. One of the members from the
    Message 1 of 4 , Dec 20, 2013
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      I sent this to the pancreatitis group last night but because he has a heart issue, wanted to get opinions from the group also. One of the members from the other group also mentioned sending this to you all for suggestions, especially about the budesonide (steroid) since he has heart issues.
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      I finally got a call back from the vet yesterday (Thursday). She said she wanted the lab to run some additional tests on the biopsies, had them cut into thinner slices, and then she wanted a 2nd read on them. They didn’t show any cancer, whew!! They did show IBD and they didn’t say how bad but she said she would considerate it moderate, whatever that means. She wants to start him on Budesonide sustained release, 1mg capsule. It would have to be compounded and she told me the name of the pharmacy. I called the pharmacy to get a cost and was told it would be about $42.00 for 30 day supply and $5.00 to ship it.
       
      I’m nervous using a steroid on him because of his heart and I read that it sometimes can cause Cushing’s disease, which I don’t know anything about. I also read that it can’t be stopped suddenly or could cause death!!! The vet said to think and sleep on it tonight and let her know tomorrow. I just don’t know what to do. He doesn’t seem to have it that bad if he sometimes just regurgitates 5 minutes after his first meal and is fine the rest of the day with his meals??? I hate to give him so many different things. She wants me to continue the pepcid twice a day and I give him atenolol twice a day for his heart. He would probably have to be on the Budesonide the rest of his life. He’s only 3 years old (Jan.) so he would be on these drugs a long time and more things are bound to go wrong (liver, kidneys, heart, etc.)??
       
      He doesn’t have any of the other signs of IBD (diarrhea, weight loss, no appetite) just the regurgitating first thing in the morning. He will even start to re-eat it if I don’t get to it quick enough and I can feed him 10 minutes later with no problem. In fact, he acts like he hasn’t eaten all day. He’s always had a good appetite so I am really confused with all this. Any suggestions???
       
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    • Elfinmyst
      Hi Mirsades I am sorry Romeeoh has IBD as well. Personally I had a similar situation, my HCM cat had inflammation and was very ill. We gave her steroids
      Message 2 of 4 , Dec 20, 2013
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        Hi Mirsades

        I am sorry Romeeoh has IBD as well. Personally I had a similar situation, my HCM cat had inflammation and was very ill. We gave her steroids despite the risk as the inflammation was vey serious and life threatening. In the end she died of kidney failure three years later at the age of 16. But my cat was elderly and very ill with disease that needed steroid. If he is just vomiting in the morning, not showing signs of pain or distress, I personally wouldn't risk the steroid. It's balancing how much it is needed is the important issue. My Sauce needs steroid for non regenerative anaemia, Josh needed it for severe joint disease. I would go with your  gut feeling. Does he need it? Is his life bad without it? Is there a safer alternative?

        Lyn


      • Debbie Loffredo
        The section of what you wrote below (to me at least) is the critical point. He has no other symptoms that would make the risk of steroid offset by benefit. I
        Message 3 of 4 , Dec 20, 2013
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          The section of what you wrote below (to me at least) is the critical point.  He has no other symptoms that would make the risk of steroid offset by benefit.  I know of several people who will tell me their cats will woof down food and it will come right back up.  I have one cat who will vomit when she thinks she has been starved and wolfs down her food.  I feed canned food and basically have food out at all times.  They just get one meal finished when it is time for the next.  I rarely have any trouble any more.  For me I would have to try changing how I fed and even possibly what I fed before I resorted to steroid.   

          From: Mirsades
          Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:48 PM
          Subject: [FH] Fw: Romeeoh's Biopsy Results

          He doesn’t have any of the other signs of IBD (diarrhea, weight loss, no appetite) just the regurgitating first thing in the morning. He will even start to re-eat it if I don’t get to it quick enough and I can feed him 10 minutes later with no problem. In fact, he acts like he hasn’t eaten all day. He’s always had a good appetite so I am really confused with all this. Any suggestions???
           



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        • Emily Valentin
          Romeeoh s mom, I think that if he is not showing severe signs then I would pass on the steroid. Have you done a thorough research on what IBD entails? There
          Message 4 of 4 , Dec 20, 2013
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            Romeeoh's mom, 

            I think that if he is not showing severe signs then I would pass on the steroid. Have you done a thorough research on what IBD entails? There might be some natural tonics you can give him that won't be harmful...my Tiger take now several medications for his CHF and DCM. I give him natural tonics to protect his kidneys....also, have you tried breaking his food into smaller portions? Tiger has breakfast broken into 3 portions bc he had stomach surgery and was just not the same anymore. 
            Emily and Tiger 

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            Nationally Certified School Psychologist 

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