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How can we ever take Lumi to the vet again?

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  • Lisa
    Some/many of you out there are dealing with kitties who fight fluid in their lungs. Our Lumi is one of these. Two weeks ago, he had an appointment to get his
    Message 1 of 7 , Jan 29, 2013
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      Some/many of you out there are dealing with kitties who fight fluid in their lungs. Our Lumi is one of these.

      Two weeks ago, he had an appointment to get his blood drawn and was in breathing distress by the time we got home. We returned and he ended up spending the night, hospitalized, on oxygen and with shots of Lasix.

      Before that episode, he hadn't been on Lasix yet -- but now has been for the past two weeks. I've been monitoring his breathing which (except for yesterday's good day: 22/min) has been hovering around 27/min.

      Lumi had a follow-up appointment today to see how he's doing on his new meds. Because of his less-than-ideal breathing rate, we suspected there was still some fluid. And there was.

      My husband just called to say they're holding him on oxygen again today -- and more shots of Lasix -- probably for around 6 hours.

      He's been thriving at home, so it's clear the stress of the car/vet is triggering these episodes. I did put some flower essences on his ears before he left... but that step almost seems laughable now.

      How can we ever take Lumi to the vet again? Ugh.
    • Dana McCormick
      Hi Lisa,   My Fuzz travels poorly so he gets a Buprenex dose before we leave home. His prior vet visits triggered respiration rates of 100 and he didn t
      Message 2 of 7 , Jan 29, 2013
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        Hi Lisa,
         
        My Fuzz travels poorly so he gets a Buprenex dose before we leave home. His prior vet visits triggered respiration rates of 100 and he didn't normalize until late evening. A friend suggested the Buprenex and he has had 2 visits with it and he was perfectly fine.
         
        Dana

        --- On Tue, 1/29/13, Lisa <liesca@...> wrote:


        From: Lisa <liesca@...>
        Subject: [FH] How can we ever take Lumi to the vet again?
        To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 2:42 PM



         



        Some/many of you out there are dealing with kitties who fight fluid in their lungs. Our Lumi is one of these.

        Two weeks ago, he had an appointment to get his blood drawn and was in breathing distress by the time we got home. We returned and he ended up spending the night, hospitalized, on oxygen and with shots of Lasix.

        Before that episode, he hadn't been on Lasix yet -- but now has been for the past two weeks. I've been monitoring his breathing which (except for yesterday's good day: 22/min) has been hovering around 27/min.

        Lumi had a follow-up appointment today to see how he's doing on his new meds. Because of his less-than-ideal breathing rate, we suspected there was still some fluid. And there was.

        My husband just called to say they're holding him on oxygen again today -- and more shots of Lasix -- probably for around 6 hours.

        He's been thriving at home, so it's clear the stress of the car/vet is triggering these episodes. I did put some flower essences on his ears before he left... but that step almost seems laughable now.

        How can we ever take Lumi to the vet again? Ugh.








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      • Westgold
        This is a big problem for lots of us. Tigger actually died on the table the last time I took him in for shots, back in 2006. His precious little heart
        Message 3 of 7 , Jan 29, 2013
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          This is a big problem for lots of us. Tigger actually died on the table the last time I took him in for shots, back in 2006. His precious little heart stopped beating for 20 seconds, but fortunately started up on its own before they even had a chance to start working on him. But he had a near-death experience whech scared me to death!! I promised him I would never take him out again, unless it was a true emergency. Fortunately he has been perfectly stable so far, but I know that things can turn on a dime.

          Lumi's situation is different, because he actually needs serious vet care and treatment at times. If I were you, I would have a serious talk with the cardiologist, not just the vet. Tell him the situation, and ask if there is any way you could just keep him at home and treat him yourself. If he wasn't stressed from the trip, he MIGHT not need the oxygen, and just a shot of lasix might be enough if he's in distress, etc. I am not a vet and cannot tell you what to do. A good talk with the cardiologist -- about both the GOOD points and the DANGEROUS points about treating him at home --- will help you make an informed decision. We'll pray for him!

          take care -- Michelle & Tigger Too in Toronto






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          From: Lisa
          To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:42 PM
          Subject: [FH] How can we ever take Lumi to the vet again?



          Some/many of you out there are dealing with kitties who fight fluid in their lungs. Our Lumi is one of these.

          Two weeks ago, he had an appointment to get his blood drawn and was in breathing distress by the time we got home. We returned and he ended up spending the night, hospitalized, on oxygen and with shots of Lasix.

          Before that episode, he hadn't been on Lasix yet -- but now has been for the past two weeks. I've been monitoring his breathing which (except for yesterday's good day: 22/min) has been hovering around 27/min.

          Lumi had a follow-up appointment today to see how he's doing on his new meds. Because of his less-than-ideal breathing rate, we suspected there was still some fluid. And there was.

          My husband just called to say they're holding him on oxygen again today -- and more shots of Lasix -- probably for around 6 hours.

          He's been thriving at home, so it's clear the stress of the car/vet is triggering these episodes. I did put some flower essences on his ears before he left... but that step almost seems laughable now.

          How can we ever take Lumi to the vet again? Ugh.





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        • Laurie Stead
          I do understand this dilemma.  Boo gets extremely stressed and agitated.  Last cardiologist visit I gave her a sedative before even leaving the house.  Well
          Message 4 of 7 , Jan 29, 2013
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            I do understand this dilemma.  Boo gets extremely stressed and agitated.  Last cardiologist visit I gave her a sedative before even leaving the house.  Well she had a terrible reaction and when we got home I promised never to take her there again unless an emergency.  The cardiologist agrees that unless she is presenting clinical signs of distress, we will not bring her in for routine visits.

            Like Michelle's reply, I think you should have a conversation with the cardiologist.  I would also be sure to maintain Lumi on lasix so it is used as a preventative drug, rather than just to fix a problem.  Each time Lumi experiences heart failure it is painful and stressing.  The best would be to get Lumi stabilized by taking the drug daily.  This personally worked for Boo, but I would of course discuss it with the cardiologist.

            Laurie and Boo


            --- On Tue, 1/29/13, Lisa <liesca@...> wrote:

            From: Lisa <liesca@...>
            Subject: [FH] How can we ever take Lumi to the vet again?
            To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 2:42 PM
















             









            Some/many of you out there are dealing with kitties who fight fluid in their lungs. Our Lumi is one of these.



            Two weeks ago, he had an appointment to get his blood drawn and was in breathing distress by the time we got home. We returned and he ended up spending the night, hospitalized, on oxygen and with shots of Lasix.



            Before that episode, he hadn't been on Lasix yet -- but now has been for the past two weeks. I've been monitoring his breathing which (except for yesterday's good day: 22/min) has been hovering around 27/min.



            Lumi had a follow-up appointment today to see how he's doing on his new meds. Because of his less-than-ideal breathing rate, we suspected there was still some fluid. And there was.



            My husband just called to say they're holding him on oxygen again today -- and more shots of Lasix -- probably for around 6 hours.



            He's been thriving at home, so it's clear the stress of the car/vet is triggering these episodes. I did put some flower essences on his ears before he left... but that step almost seems laughable now.



            How can we ever take Lumi to the vet again? Ugh.

















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          • Lisa
            Thanks for your replies. Crazy stories! I m using the more general vet when I do mean cardiologist. Lumi is seeing a specialist and he is on Lasix all the
            Message 5 of 7 , Jan 29, 2013
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              Thanks for your replies. Crazy stories!

              I'm using the more general "vet" when I do mean cardiologist. Lumi is seeing a specialist and he is on Lasix all the time now (for the past two weeks). He's a large cat -- not so much fat, but just really big -- and he'd been started on a minimum dosage that's not enough for him. So now we're doubling it.

              Am waiting for the doctor's call, but he did tell my husband we'll try to do some things in the home now. Maybe blood can be drawn at home? Obviously not x-rays.

              I have some Buprenorphine from his first evening with the blood clot (that started this all) -- but I thought it was a pain killer. Will ask the doctor if we can give it before an emergency visit.

              Oh, and not that it's important but, Lumi is blind. We actually forget on a regular basis because he's so adept at getting around. But my heart just aches for him when he's at the hospital because the poor guy must be out of his mind with confusion about where/what/why.

              Can't wait for him to come home! Thanks for the good thoughts!
            • Westgold
              For basic checkups and blood draws, shots, etc there are vets who will come to your home. Ask around. That is surely less traumatic for him. ... From: Lisa
              Message 6 of 7 , Jan 29, 2013
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                For basic checkups and blood draws, shots, etc there are vets who will come to your home. Ask around. That is surely less traumatic for him.
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                From: Lisa
                To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:56 PM
                Subject: [FH] Re: How can we ever take Lumi to the vet again?



                Thanks for your replies. Crazy stories!

                I'm using the more general "vet" when I do mean cardiologist. Lumi is seeing a specialist and he is on Lasix all the time now (for the past two weeks). He's a large cat -- not so much fat, but just really big -- and he'd been started on a minimum dosage that's not enough for him. So now we're doubling it.

                Am waiting for the doctor's call, but he did tell my husband we'll try to do some things in the home now. Maybe blood can be drawn at home? Obviously not x-rays.

                I have some Buprenorphine from his first evening with the blood clot (that started this all) -- but I thought it was a pain killer. Will ask the doctor if we can give it before an emergency visit.

                Oh, and not that it's important but, Lumi is blind. We actually forget on a regular basis because he's so adept at getting around. But my heart just aches for him when he's at the hospital because the poor guy must be out of his mind with confusion about where/what/why.

                Can't wait for him to come home! Thanks for the good thoughts!





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              • Lisa
                What s so frustrating is that Lumi had been acting perfectly fine -- happy, active, friendly, his same goof-ball self -- until this visit. Just talked to the
                Message 7 of 7 , Jan 29, 2013
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                  What's so frustrating is that Lumi had been acting perfectly fine -- happy, active, friendly, his same goof-ball self -- until this visit.

                  Just talked to the doctor and he really is stumped because Lumi's breathing seemed to get worse during the course of the appointment. Good at the beginning (some fluid but no major concerns) -- then worse over the next 30 minutes.

                  As a kitten with his visits to the eye doctor, he didn't seem to hate the carrier at all. But now, in the past few months...

                  Blood clot... in the carrier.
                  In the carrier... night at the hospital.
                  In the carrier... day at the hospital.

                  Not good associations!

                  My husband thought about the similarities with people having asthma. They can be fine one minute but then stress can put them in crisis. Seems to be the same with Lumi.

                  Anyway, he's on his way home: hooray!
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