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Re: [FH] Lahri's ECHO DILEMMA . . . Please help if can.

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  • Westgold
    Hi -- this is the problem that can come up if you are unable to see a real cardiologist. Regular vets who have taken a class in echos are not trained or
    Message 1 of 4 , Dec 30, 2012
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      Hi -- this is the problem that can come up if you are unable to see a real cardiologist. Regular vets who have "taken a class" in echos are not trained or equipped to take a perfect echo, and their equipment is often old and outdated. Even if a cardiologist reads the echo, it may not be clear because of the old equipment or it just being taken by an unskilled person.

      If Lahri's heart is being compromised by the thyroid medicine, then you need to see an endocrinologist about that.

      Your own vet is trying to cover her ass by not talking to you about this --- she does not know the answers, and doesn't want to get into any trouble by trying to talk about something she doesn't know about. This is why we have to use the specialists whenever there are serious problems. Where do you live? Some specialists do consults over the phone or web, etc if you really can't get to one.

      I suggest you post the numbers and your questions on a yahoogroup list called vettalk, there are some vets on there -- but probably not until after the new year. very few people online this week.

      take care -- Michelle & Tigger Too in Toronto

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    • mary beth fitzpatrick
      Thanks, Michelle ! You bring up some interesting points that help me think more clearly about facts and possibilities. More info I can share: i) The
      Message 2 of 4 , Dec 30, 2012
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        Thanks, Michelle !

        You bring up some interesting points that help me think more clearly about facts and possibilities.

        More info I can share:
        i) The cardiologist who read the echo is a Diplomate.
        ii) The practice told me the tech who took the echo is specially trained to do so and only comes to the practice twice a week to do so, and the equipment is new in the last couple years.
        iii) The highly acclaimed diagnosing cardiologist, 5 hours away, prescribed the Methimazole herself, mentioning nothing about needing an endocrinologist, though there is one (maybe two) in her practice.
        iv) Sorry what I wrote did not make this clear. The E-vet was upfront from the start, saying she did not have the expertise to fully understand what the Diplomate was saying, expect for the point about "toxic cardiomopathy" vs. HCM
        v) I'm in Eureka, CA . . . about 60 miles from the Oregon border and 300 from San Francisco.
        vi) I cannot afford to go to Lahri's cardiologist, especially since I've just paid $250 for this echo. I AM going to call her practice tomorrow and try to get help. ALL I want to know is if intervention is necessary at this point and if so, what I need to do about it.

        HUGE THANKS for the vettalk idea! I'll try it.

        mb and lahri
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        From: Westgold
        To: mary beth fitzpatrick ; feline-heart
        Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:59 PM
        Subject: Re: [FH] Lahri's ECHO DILEMMA . . . Please help if can.



        Hi -- this is the problem that can come up if you are unable to see a real cardiologist. Regular vets who have "taken a class" in echos are not trained or equipped to take a perfect echo, and their equipment is often old and outdated. Even if a cardiologist reads the echo, it may not be clear because of the old equipment or it just being taken by an unskilled person.

        If Lahri's heart is being compromised by the thyroid medicine, then you need to see an endocrinologist about that.

        Your own vet is trying to cover her ass by not talking to you about this --- she does not know the answers, and doesn't want to get into any trouble by trying to talk about something she doesn't know about. This is why we have to use the specialists whenever there are serious problems. Where do you live? Some specialists do consults over the phone or web, etc if you really can't get to one.

        I suggest you post the numbers and your questions on a yahoogroup list called vettalk, there are some vets on there -- but probably not until after the new year. very few people online this week.

        take care -- Michelle & Tigger Too in Toronto

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      • elfinmyst@aol.com
        Hi Marybeth Cardiomyopathy can be secondary to hyperthyroidism. This is what I assume the diagnosis the cardiologist is making? If the thyroid is treated, then
        Message 3 of 4 , Dec 30, 2012
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          Hi Marybeth

          Cardiomyopathy can be secondary to hyperthyroidism. This is what I assume
          the diagnosis the cardiologist is making? If the thyroid is treated, then
          the CM resolves and gets better. Hyperthyroid is too much production from the
          thyroid gland and needs treatment. It is diagnosed by a blood test. There
          are several treatment options, tablets, radiation therapy and surgery to
          remove excess gland.

          Lyn

          _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)

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