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Re: I lost my cat this morning

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  • Westgold
    yes, please take her to a cardiologist asap, and then you will know. If she has HCM, he will give you the proper meds. With the right meds, most can live a
    Message 1 of 8 , Dec 10, 2012
      yes, please take her to a cardiologist asap, and then you will know. If she
      has HCM, he will give you the proper meds. With the right meds, most can
      live a normal lifespan. My Tigger was dx at age 6 months, and he celebrated
      his happy 8th birthday in Oct. If she doesn't have it, then you won't have
      to worry! You have to also tell their breeder --- I sure hope they have
      retired the parents. But they need to get all their breeding cats echoed,
      otherwise they just keep making more kittens with heartbreaking HCM. I'm
      so glad you found our list, we will help you -- give us the sister's results
      when you get them.

      take care -- Michelle & Tigger Too in Toronto
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <techigirl78@...>
      To: "Westgold" <westgold@...>
      Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 1:51 PM
      Subject: Re: I lost my cat this morning

      That is what I'm telling my stepdaughter and what I believe. Even if we
      found out exactly what it was and got him on treatments, he probably had a
      lot of damage. He had been slowly going down a little over the last year.
      I thought maybe age since he stilled ate, played, ran around, but not at the
      level of a normal bengal (still above my tuxedo though). Then, the last
      month he was acting sick and losing weight. When he passed, he had gained
      1/2 lb in less then week. So, I wasn't imagining it, he was eating a lot
      more. But, I think the damage was there. The important thing now is to
      make sure his sister gets it detected early if she has the same thing and
      for me to learn more going forward.

      --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "Westgold" <westgold@...> wrote:
      > hi ---- your kitty most probably didn't have a clot, so the blood thinners
      > wouldn't have made any difference. Total heart failure would have
      > happened
      > anyway. The only thing that can help prevent that is to be diagnosed
      > really
      > early, and put on all the proper meds. But even that doesn't always
      > help --
      > some kitties' heart disease progresses SO fast that there is absolutely
      > nothing that can be done. The fluid builds up so fast sometimes. That's
      > sadly what happened with both of our kitties.
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: <techigirl78@...>
      > To: "Westgold" <westgold@...>
      > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 12:49 PM
      > Subject: Re: [FH] I lost my cat this morning
      > Thank you for sharing your story. I can take comfort in knowing I was
      > able
      > to be with him in his last moments. Even though I was driving, I had one
      > hand on him and he knew I was there.
      > I'm still frustrated with my vet, I think part of it is normal anger/guilt
      > over death. I left message with the animal hospital who has all the
      > specialists in town (where I was sent when my tabby had cancer too).
      > However, I think I will need to go through my normal vet to get a
      > referral.
      > Part of me wishes in addition to 2nd antibiotic, I was also given blood
      > thinner since he heart murur. I keep thinking maybe that would have kept
      > him with me longer (though not sure how much). The other part thinks
      > maybe
      > no vet would do that until ultrasound or echocardiogram done by
      > cardiologist. My vet said he would send me if second course didn't work
      > to
      > a specialist. Plus, my cat while losing weight was still responsive and
      > eating a little. Just confused. I know everyone here likely understands.
      > --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "Westgold" <westgold@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi -- I am so sorry to hear about your little kitty. What you describe
      > > is
      > > sudden heart failure caused by HCM. This is what happened to one of my
      > > kitties back in 1995. She was lethargic and wouldn't eat for a couple
      > > days before. But she did not have a murmur, and I have to admin that in
      > > 1995 I had never even heard of HCM. We were going to take her into the
      > > vet the next morning because she just looked so weak and had a bit of
      > > open-mouth breathing. But at 4 AM I was awoken by a loud scream, and by
      > > the time I got into the living room she was dead in a puddle of fluid on
      > > the floor. I tried holding her upside down to drain fluid, and I also
      > > tried breathing for her, but it was too late, she was already gone. We
      > > did do a necropsy at the University Of Guelph, an they said sudden heart
      > > failure caused by HCM. They said that when people wake up in the
      > > morning
      > > and find their kitties dead on the floor, this is usually what it is.
      > > Fortunately it's quick. I read on another list of a kitty who happily
      > > ran
      > > up the cat tree while they were playing, and then fell off dead.
      > >
      > > If your other cat is related, you need to get an echocardiogram with a
      > > cardiologist immediately. This is the only way to know if there is
      > > heart
      > > disease. Xrays may show fluid, but it's hard to tell, and they cannot
      > > diagnose heart disease. And if she also has HCM, you can start on the
      > > proper meds right away to increase her chances of a full life.
      > >
      > > When you feel up to it, please put up a memorial to your dear kitty on
      > > our
      > > memorial site http://www.AngelKitties.com -- we'd love to see his photo
      > > and hear how you met, etc. All kitties are welcome, no matter how long
      > > they've been in heaven.
      > >
      > > take care -- Michelle & Tigger Too in Toronto
      > >
    • jenzcritters
      Oh! I am so deeply sorry to hear of your loss. Can you have a necropsy (kitty autopsy) done? It will give you closure and will answer your question regarding
      Message 2 of 8 , Dec 10, 2012
        I am so deeply sorry to hear of your loss.
        Can you have a necropsy (kitty autopsy) done? It will give you closure and will answer your question regarding changing vets.
        Were you referred to a specialist at any point? Was such a specialty workup possible for you financially?
        Usually with heart disease both lungs are cloudy not just one.
        When a cat loses a LOT of weight and barely eats then suddenly eats a large amount, he can die due to a condition called "refeeding syndrome" which is when a catastrophic electrolyte imbalance occurs due to the sudden intake of food. I am wondering if this is a possibility here.
        I can tell how much you loved your boy. I am quite sure he felt it. And, in the end, having been truly loved in life is much more important than how long we lived.
        Sending hugs.

        --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "techigirl78@..." <techigirl78@...> wrote:
        > My cat had been to the vet twice in past 3 weeks for weight loss and lethargy.
        > First visit. Bloodwork showed high white blood count and low calcium. Xray showed one lung was all cloudy that could signify anything from infection to cancer and gallstones. Vet said ultrasound may be needed, but suggested we try bloodwork to check infdction and treat with antibiotic. Revisit scheduled two weeks. Vet asked if any open moutb breathing. I had seen none. He had lost a lot of weight before i took him. About 2 lbs, but I tried feeding him mord for a few weeks before I took him in.
        > I gave meds and tried to get my baby more food. He was almost 10. Vet says senior, but it still seems young. He had goid days and bad. Not overly active. But he always was eating some on his own.
        > Second visit vet heard murmur and said that is not normal, could be cardiomyopathy. But, slight drop in white blood cell count led vet to try another antibiotic with recheck needed and if no improvement then ultrasound. I closely watched him. No open breathing still. Over the week he seemed to have more energy. Yesterday eating almost 2 cans of cat food along with somd dry foid. I was so happy. I thought he was recovering.
        > This morning we were cuddling on bed. He was even rolling around purring getting his belly rub. He took a short nap, looked around and went downstairs. A few minutes later i followed him to give him his antibiotic. I find him drooling, hunched over, and gagging. I run to get dressed. Grab him and head to er. It took only minutes to get ready and hospital is five minutes away. He looks horrible. His breaths get shorter apart. I arrive, pick him up and he is almost lifeless. I run into the vet and hand him over. The tech said as soon as he put him on the table he passes.
        > I am so sad. He is gone now and all i have is questions. Since the vet said possible cardiomyopathy. I start looking it up today. If that could have been the issue, why the antibiotics? If that was the issue, what do I need to do to prevent his sister getting sick like him? I am so sad and angry. I think I should switch vets, but how to find a good one? I put another cat down at 10 last year with vaccine associated fibrosarcoma. As the vet injected in back instead of legs, I had no option. I thought this is just in my head. But even if he didnt have open breathing, wasnt weight loss, foggy chest xray and murmur enough to do something else or am i just overthinking it? The er did not mention er, but said heart failure can cause what happened to my baby. I am so upset and confused.
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