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Re: New Member - Kalysta, and Bob

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  • elfinmyst@aol.com
    Hi Bob I am sorry to hear of Kalysta, she is very brave. It s good news the lasix worked so well and quickly but I would also be wary of reducing it until it
    Message 1 of 4 , Dec 9, 2012
      Hi Bob

      I am sorry to hear of Kalysta, she is very brave. It's good news the lasix
      worked so well and quickly but I would also be wary of reducing it until it
      is certain she is out of heart failure. The potassium and kidney levels
      need to monitored as well, either could cause her appetite to have problems
      and potassium depletion can cause nervous disorders like walking wobbly. It
      is easy to get a potassium supplement, mine came as beef flavour liquid.

      CoQ 10 helps all my cat with heart problems at 30mg per day. Most of the
      forum cats here are on that so it is something to consider from the health
      store or as Cardiostrength which is made for cats with heart problems. You
      can also consider nattokinase (must have vitamin K removed) to prevent blood
      clots if she is at risk of those.

      Count breaths, see what is normal when she is at rest, but not dreaming. It
      should be around 20. Up to 30 is considered normal, over 30 caution and
      over 40 an emergency. But the most important is to see what she is like
      normally so you can see changes quickly.

      Enjoy her! She can still play if she feels like it and enjoy her toys and
      some exercise. She is totally unaware she is sick. I used to be constantly
      checking mine and worrying, but that worried them. So enjoy every day with


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    • Laurie Stead
      Hi Bob, I have included the group so they will have all the information to offer their help as well.  I don t have personal experience with appetite
      Message 2 of 4 , Dec 10, 2012
        Hi Bob,

        I have included the group so they will have all the information to offer their help as well.  I don't have personal experience with appetite stimulants so maybe others do.

        Finding a cardiologist is really important as they have the best knowledge when it comes to diagnosing and treating HCM. Is there an area Vet Emergency Hospital that may have a cardiology department?  That is how I found Boo's cardiologist who saved her life.  Also get full blood work done so you can see the potassium and kidney levels.  This may explain what is causing the inappetance and wobbly walking and gives you a benchmark for future blood work.

        You mentioned a lot of drinking/urinating which you will see from the lasix... but again blood work will show if there is a
        kidney issue at all.  Yes, long term use of lasix can cause issues but it is important to keep the fluid away right now.  I can't stress enough my personal feeling that lasix is important here.

        She is indeed a miracle and I have a feeling with your diligence she will fight this too.  So keep doing what you're doing but try to find a cardiologist and continue with the lasix for now (did I say that already?? ;-))

        Keep us posted.

        --- On Sun, 12/9/12, Bob S <rsifuent@...> wrote:

        From: Bob S <rsifuent@...>
        Subject: Re: [FH] New Member - Kalysta, and Bob
        To: "Laurie Stead" <kittykatwhiskas@...>
        Date: Sunday, December 9, 2012, 6:41 PM

        Thanks for the reply, Laurie.

        In the past, neither cyproheptadine or mirtazapine worked for her.

        Not sure about if a bonafide cardiologist is available to me. I just moved to Bartlesville, OK from KCMO. The local family vet here referred me to a board-certified oncologist in Tulsa, based on
        Kalysta's history.

        She did recommend that Lasix wasn't necessarily good for cats on a long-term basis, and Dr. Jory, an IM with lots of oncology experience, in the lymphoma group also said to be careful with Lasix... so I was told to wean her off of it. Also, Kalysta really had an immeasurable amount of fluid. What alarmed me about any fluid in the chest is the possibility of mediastinal lymphoma, a very aggressive form of lymphoma... although, I had no knowledge of fluid associated with any other disease... again my ignorance of and surprise that Kalysta could have had heart disease.

        I haven't had more blood work done, but Kalysta does have another IM/onc visit at the end of the month for another full body U/S.

        If she doesn't perk up in the next couple of days, I might have to take her back to the local vet for more blood work done. I don't know how long it takes for the heart meds to kick in, so I am doing my due diligence on the
        homefront for her, making sure she is hydrated and fed. With lymphoma, I would attribute her losing weight despite being fed enough to malabsorption since cancer feeds on nutrition, at least small cell does.

        I've been here before, but still it does take its toll on you. She's sleeping too much. I wake her to feed her. She gets mad. Syringe-feeding can get messy. You try to clean her. She gets mad. She drinks, a lot, thank God. But she becomes too weak to get to the litter box, so you put her in the box and she pees. Yet, other times she pees in bed. Vicious cycle. It takes a lot of patience and tolerance. We do the best we can, don't we? Thankfully, every now and then we are blessed with a little miracle, our little miracle.


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