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  • Rhy
    Hello all! This group looks really nice! I can not wait to start asking questions and learning new things. You see, I may have a new cat in my life!!! He is
    Message 1 of 18 , Mar 18, 1935
      Hello all! This group looks really nice! I can not wait to start asking questions and learning new things. You see, I may have a new cat in my life!!! He is called small cat, though he will be getting a new name when his adoption is finalized. He is an amazing blue eyed Siamese cat. Now I do know he had a grade 4 heart problem. They are not sure just how long he will live but I only care that each day is full of life and love. My two other cats are used to new foster cats and are so very good, but this one will be the last new one.
      Again thank you all for being a cool friendly group. I am sure wet will share laughs and a few years.
      Rhywnn Gaffney
    • elfinmyst
      Hi Rhywnn A grade four heart murmur is always serious. The best possible thing you can do is take him to a cardiologist and have an ultrasound scan done. The
      Message 2 of 18 , Mar 19, 1935
        Hi Rhywnn

        A grade four heart murmur is always serious. The best possible thing you
        can do is take him to a cardiologist and have an ultrasound scan done. The
        you will know exactly what his heart problem is. It could be HCM , it could
        be a hole in his heart, all of these conditions can have treatment ato help
        stabilise them.

        I think its wonderful you are taking a sick kitty. We took milli with her
        grade 4 and she has two holes in her heart and was given a year or so to
        live as a kitten. She is seven years this summer and takes a lot of drugs

        Lyn

        _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)

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      • rhywnn gaffney
        Sorry he has a grade 5 and he is on benazepril and atenolol. It is a birth defect but that is all I know. He is sooo cute! Sounds like a bit of a brat, but
        Message 3 of 18 , Mar 20, 1935
          Sorry he has a grade 5 and he is on benazepril and atenolol. It is a
          birth defect but that is all I know.
          He is sooo cute! Sounds like a bit of a brat, but once he sets the rules i
          am sure i will do fine.
          Rhywnn
          On Apr 19, 2013 6:14 AM, <elfinmyst@...> wrote:

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          > Hi Rhywnn
          >
          > A grade four heart murmur is always serious. The best possible thing you
          > can do is take him to a cardiologist and have an ultrasound scan done. The
          > you will know exactly what his heart problem is. It could be HCM , it
          > could
          > be a hole in his heart, all of these conditions can have treatment ato
          > help
          > stabilise them.
          >
          > I think its wonderful you are taking a sick kitty. We took milli with her
          > grade 4 and she has two holes in her heart and was given a year or so to
          > live as a kitten. She is seven years this summer and takes a lot of drugs
          >
          > Lyn
          >
          > _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)
          >
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        • Jinelle
           Hi all I am hoping to get help with this group.  My favourite Persian 4 year old soul kitty has just been diagnosed with HOCM. The obstruction they
          Message 4 of 18 , Sep 7 4:11 AM
             Hi all

            I am hoping to get help with this group.  My favourite Persian 4 year old soul kitty has just been diagnosed with HOCM. The obstruction they classified as "severe" in the left ventricle or atrium. ( not fully understanding ).

            The scary thing is that the cardiologist told me that he has seen cats with the same prognosis live for "many months".

            M O N T H E S ??? My heart sank.

            I am praying that my boy is gong to be the exception. If he didnt have the obstruction, there would be no need for panic supposedly.

            Right now we are trying to find the right balance of Lasix. He is on Furosemide1/4 of a 20 mg tab. Giving that 2 times a day is resulting in dehydration and he seems to have difficulty swallowing. 

            We went through last week with no meds at all as per the specialist but then yesterday he went into respiratory distress again yesterday. I rushed him to my vet who did yet another cardiac ultrasound showing the heart larger and working harder. When he is on meds, the heart works better and seems to be ok but it zaps out his energy and he lies on the cold floor often. This is awful :(

            We need to find a very small dose I guess and find the right balance between dehydration and keeping the fluids from forming and backing up into the lungs.  Both my vet and the cardiologist have suggested to hold off before we start giving Benzapril Hydrochloride. Not 100% sure why..

            Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated. This seems like a bad nightmare.

            Thank you all


            Jinelle

            >^..^<  >^..^<   >^..^<  >^..^<

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          • joanne marbut
            I m not familiar with obstructions unless they mean clots.  Those need to be busted and there s Plavix but other drugs might be better that are clot busting
            Message 5 of 18 , Sep 7 10:59 AM
              I'm not familiar with obstructions unless they mean clots.  Those need to be busted and there's Plavix but other drugs might be better that are clot busting drugs but I don't know what those are for cats.  

              Your cat needs daily management meds beyond lasix such as atenolol and enalapril-they work to slow the heart to keep it from working too hard and being over taxed; they work different ways to bring down blood pressure-atenolol affects the heart muscle and enalapril keeps the blood veins opened and not restricted.  Plavix is a blood thinner that will help break up clots maybe but helps to thin the blood, let it flow without making the heart work too hard, and will help prevent clots. Sprionolactone will help the body retain potassium much needed for the kidneys to function and act as an additional diuretic. The lasix is great but dehydration is a problem.  It will spurn him to drink more. Give him only wet food and add additional water to it and give him water by mouth 2 or three times a day, whatever you can do (2 eyedroppers full or 3ccs from a syringe you should be able to get from your vet.)  

              Get him on these meds if possible.  Give him as much water as possible.  Monitor him as much as possible for signs of distress.  Keep him warm if it's cold where you are or cool if it's hot.  Keep the environment stress free and quiet as possible. Keep kids, other pets, and people away or keep them quiet.  Don't encourage play for now.  

              Good luck!

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            • elfinmyst@aol.com
              Hi Jinelle My Maxi is a HOCM cat . He takes atenolol which has kept it under control for years. Trixi is a HOCM cat too and has been in heart failure several
              Message 6 of 18 , Sep 7 11:37 PM
                Hi Jinelle

                My Maxi is a HOCM cat . He takes atenolol which has kept it under control
                for years. Trixi is a HOCM cat too and has been in heart failure several
                times,. Your dose of lasix is very small, Trixi went to 5mg 6 times a day at
                her worst to control heart failure. There is definitely room to increase
                lasix which works for 8 hours and you could add spironolactone as well which
                works well with lasix.

                I am very surprised he isn't on any other tablets to help his heart. Mine
                are on benazipril which helps them a lot. You could ask for that to be
                started or a beta blocker, but there may be a reason they want to deal with the
                fluid first.

                My HCM cats all take Coenzyme Q at 30mg a day (either Cardiostrength or
                from the health store) and that helps a lot. If it's any consolation, months
                can mean years. Trixi was given two months to live as a 12 week old kitten.
                She is six years old now! She didn't listen to the cardiologist. Josh has
                lived with HCM for 8 years now and Maxi for 6 years. It's finding the right
                balance of drugs and controlling that fluid which is vital now.

                Lyn

                _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)

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              • keycmv
                You are doing a fantastic job - as you have caught things early! High b/p can cause blindness, so treatment is important. Just keep doing what you are doing
                Message 7 of 18 , Sep 9 9:28 AM
                  You are doing a fantastic job - as you have caught things early! High b/p can cause blindness, so treatment is important. Just keep doing what you are doing and Smudge should be around for quite awhile.

                  My boy has had a heart murmur since he was a kitten. He is 19 now and was diagnosed with HCM last Christmas after heart failure. He did have a high b/p, that is controlled by meds.

                  Carol and Gump
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