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[FH] Re: new to this group, advice needed

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  • burretje@ymail.com
    Do you mean a rhinoscopy? I know about the risks involved with prednisone. Don t worry :-) I ve refused this medication before. It s not only bad for heart
    Message 1 of 24 , Jul 30, 2012
      Do you mean a rhinoscopy?

      I know about the risks involved with prednisone. Don't worry :-) I've refused this medication before. It's not only bad for heart kitties, but for chronic rhinotractheitis as well.

      --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "Westgold" <westgold@...> wrote:
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      > Ok, thanks for that description. In that case, there may be asthma, or some kind of obstruction in the throat. Maybe some kind of polyp or mass that moves to block the airways only sometimes. She probably could use a scope of her throat. But be extremely careful-- do not let them give steroids if they suspect asthma!!! If it is asthma, use an inhaler, those are safe for heart kitties.
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: burretje@...
      > To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:11 PM
      > Subject: [FH] Re: new to this group, advice needed
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      > Thank you for the suggestion, but yes, I am very positive it was labored breathing. Zeya is a Burmese with a very silky and soft coat. All my cats have short and soft coats. In the last two years, I've found a hairball only once.
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      > When she has an episode, she does not cough. She holds her head up and not down and forward. She opens her mouth, sticks her tongue out a bit and pants. Her abdomen aid with the breathing and go in and out much more than normally. She has to work for air.
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      > --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "Westgold" <westgold@> wrote:
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      > > Hi -- are you positive it was labored breathing, and not choking or that thing they do when they get a hair caught in their throat? In those cases, they extend their neck way out straight and close to the floor. And make little gasps, that are kinda like coughs but not really. This can go on for more than a minute, until they finally clear the hair. Certain cats are more prone to this than others. Those with soft silky furs hardly ever get it -- but those with hairs that are a little on the stiff side, they can get this all the time. And yes, they do often wake up with it suddenly. Watch carefully the next time it happens. Often they make a big cough or like spit at the time the hair clears, and then they are just fine and may wash their face.
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: Burretje Burretje
      > > To: Laurie Stead ; feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:43 AM
      > > Subject: Re: [FH] Re: new to this group, advice needed
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      > > Hi Laurie,
      > >
      > > The radiologist said he saw nothing wrong with her lungs on the x-rays. The clouding was nothing he said. There were no donuts visible on the x-rays. No fluids, nothing at all. I'll ask my vet what we can do now to find out what is wrong.
      > >
      > > I've seen her have trouble breathing three times now. I don't really see a pattern there, so I'm not sure about an allergy.
      > >
      > > The first time was when she was sleeping in a cat bed together with her sister Mya. She lifted her head, opened her mouth and started labored breathing. It went away in a few minutes.
      > >
      > > The second time was when she was eating. I feed raw and this was the first time she had partridge. She didn't like it and wanted to leave. Next thing she started labored breathing again and this time she sounded asthmatic. She looked like she was in panic, which she wasn't the first time. It took about half an hour and then it went away (just before I arrived at the vet).
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      > > The third time was when she was sleeping next to me. She likes to sleep under the covers. First I noticed her being restless. She got out from under the covers and walked away. Then I heard labored breathing again. I switched on the lights and saw her struggling to get air and breathing with her mouth open but without the asthmatic sounds. She wouldn't allow me to touch her and walked away again. It went away in a few minutes again.
      > >
      > > I'll post her story in the asthma group, maybe they have any suggestions what it might be.
      > >
      > > Eva
      > >
      > > ________________________________
      > > From: Laurie Stead <kittykatwhiskas@>
      > > To: "burretje@" <burretje@>
      > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:33 PM
      > > Subject: Re: [FH] Re: new to this group, advice needed
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      > > That is wonderful news about Zeya's heart :-)
      > >
      > > Was the cardiologist able to tell you if the cloudy x-rays were asthma? That would explain the weird breathing episodes. Now that heart disease is ruled out, you may want to look closer at asthma. The only other thing that comes to mind is an allergic reaction to something in the household?
      > >
      > > Laurie
      > >
      > > --- On Mon, 7/30/12, burretje@ <burretje@> wrote:
      > >
      > > >From: burretje@ <burretje@>
      > > >Subject: [FH] Re: new to this group, advice needed
      > > >To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
      > > >Date: Monday, July 30, 2012, 6:06 AM
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      > > >Zeya had her cardiac ultrasound this morning. This was a big relief! She has no enlarged heart. It all looked fine.
      > > >
      > > >I was so surprised that the diagnosis made at the previous ultrasound (by another radiologist) was false! She has no abnormal turbulence in the pulmonary artery. The murmur she has is in stead caused by a small problem with the mitral valve, but not to an extend that would cause problems for her.
      > > >
      > > >The specialist also had a look at the x-rays that were taken and did not see anything out of the ordinary with the lungs either! So my vet made me worry about something that was nothing :-S
      > > >
      > > >This is all good news ofcourse. The only downside is that I still don't know what causes her fits of troubled breathing. I am relieved though that her heart is fine.
      > > >
      > > >Thank you all so much for your support and advice.
      > > >
      > > >Eva
      > > >
      > > >--- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "burretje@" <burretje@> wrote:
      > > >>
      > > >> Hi everyone,
      > > >>
      > > >> I'm new to this group. I joined in search of more information about what might be wrong with my cat Zeya.
      > > >>
      > > >> Zeya is a 2 year old Burmese cat. She had a heart murmur. At six months old she had a heart echo which showed that the murmur was caused by turbulence in the pulmonary artery. According to my vet this could be an early sign of pulmonic stenosis, which in turn can lead to an enlarged heart.
      > > >>
      > > >> Last week chest x-rays showed white clouding at the top of the right lung. According to the vet this either could be scarring from an earlier pneumonia or it could be an enlarged heart. She was not certain and wanted to send the x-rays to a radiologist for evaluation. I'm still waiting for the results of that evaluation. If there is a problem with her heart, she'll need another heart echo.
      > > >>
      > > >> Reason I took Zeya to the vet for the x-rays was that she has episodes in which she has trouble breathing. About 2 weeks ago she suddenly started panting with open mouth while walking around. She had trouble swallowing and sounded like she had severe asthma. She had to work very hard to take in air. She was in panic and I rushed her to the vet. When I got there she was breathing normally again. The vet found nothing. She told me her heartrate was low, especially considering Zeya hates the vet and was growling and hissing while we were there. The vet advised me to wait and see what happened.
      > > >>
      > > >> About a week later, Zeya suddenly had trouble breathing again. She was sleeping next to me when she suddenly started to get restless. A short while later she started panting again with open mouth. She was in panic again, but she did not sound asthmatic like she did the time before. A few minutes later she was breathing normally again. I've seen the same thing happen a few months earlier.
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      > > >> Strange thing is that I never see her panting when she is playing. She is very active and playfull, but this never seems to be a problem.
      > > >>
      > > >> She does cough occasionally, but so does her sister Mya. Both have quite a history with rhinotracheitis. As far as I know Zeya never had pneumonia and I've had her with me since she was 15 weeks old.
      > > >>
      > > >> My question to you is: Have you seen any symptoms like these associated with a heart condition? My vet did not know what to think, since it occurs in rest and goes away on its own.
      > > >>
      > > >> Thanks!
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      > > >> Eva
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