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  • elfinmyst@aol.com
    Hi Melinda That s really good news and great for Jazzie. Give her a big hug for me and I think it s good she keeps on the atenolol. Cats caught early seem to
    Message 1 of 22 , May 3, 2012
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      Hi Melinda

      That's really good news and great for Jazzie. Give her a big hug for me and
      I think it's good she keeps on the atenolol. Cats caught early seem to do
      well on that.

      Lyn:)

      _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)

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    • Judi Levens
      Hi: I wonder if maybe I have the name wrong...it s been over a year since Max passed and maybe I am forgetting, but I thought that was the name. What I had
      Message 2 of 22 , May 3, 2012
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        Hi: I wonder if maybe I have the name wrong...it's been over a year since Max passed and maybe I am forgetting, but I thought that was the name. What I had came in glass ampules with a needle to administer. The vet in Mexico said that he couldn't even perscribe that drug because it was like Morphine and he didn't have authority to use it. Can you think of something else which sounds similar and would come in that packaging? I had 3 ampules in a package. I know that it knocked Max out...hope I'm not leading you wrong...Judi and Angel Max and Tucker



        To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
        From: acrocat@...
        Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 05:38:19 +0000
        Subject: Re: [FH] plan for an emergency...






























        --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, Laurie Stead <kittykatwhiskas@...> wrote:

        > Interesting to read about using butorphenol.... You wrote: "It's for pain and relaxes them also (the Mexican vet said it

        > was like morphine.)"



        It was I who said that I'd be surprised if butorphanol did anything. It is not like morphine -- it is a weak pain medication. Back in the olden days (5-10 years ago), butorphanol was widely used as a pain medication. Some older-school vets still use it. It is not nearly as effective as other opioids, so everyone needs to make sure their dog or cat is getting more than butorphanol if they are having surgery or in pain for another reason.



        Among veterinary anesthesiologists, butorphanol is most used for its sedative effects when used in combination with other medications. Among other vet specialists, it is often used as a cough medication in dogs with chronic cough.



        If you are concerned, Laurie, can you just give the butorphanol one day at home and see? Do you have enough for two doses?


















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      • Kathleen King
        As I said before - I beleive part of the reason I was given this is because I live so far away from the emergency vet.  The other things is, we knew Danny s
        Message 3 of 22 , May 3, 2012
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          As I said before - I beleive part of the reason I was given this is because I live so far away from the emergency vet.  The other things is, we knew Danny's BP went up during emergencies. 
           
          I think it is really important to know your cat.  I considered the Nitro a life or death situation medication.  I did not use it because I was not in that situation. On the other hand, my brother-in-law found his cat collasped with very labored breathing and cyanotic gums and pads.  I think I would have used it if Danny had been like that.
           

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          From: "acrocat@..." <acrocat@...>
          To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 11:30 PM
          Subject: Re: [FH] plan for an emergency...


           
          Re: nitroprusside

          --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "Westgold" <westgold@...> wrote:
          > Wow, this sounds like something we all could have on hand. Especially for those whose cats have had fluid on the lungs previously. I hope you have a chance to do a little research on this and its exact uses. Has anyone else been given nitroglycerin for their cats?

          Some cardiologists don't use it anymore in animals because they think it does not absorb transdermally. If it does absorb transdermally, it can cause a frightening drop in blood pressure -- animals on IV nitroprusside have their BP monitored constantly because its effect on BP can be so strong.

          Personally, if my cat was in bad enough shape that I thought he needed nitro before we got to the ER, he'd be in bad enough shape that I'd be too nervous about his BP to try it. Cats and dogs in a CHF crisis can be hypotensive and this is life-threatening. I think getting to the ER is the important thing. If you live more than 30 min away, it's good to have a plan, but apart from those cases, just getting there as fast as you can while still being safe is the most important thing.




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        • Jim Sinclair
          ... My Buttercup was like that. She would invariably pant, drool, and vomit when taken anywhere in the vehicle. Vets always thought she was acutely ill even
          Message 4 of 22 , May 3, 2012
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            On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Joanne Haeussinger <chmiss01@...> wrote:

            > I even put Feliway in her carrier. Do any of you have cats that get super nervous when going to the vet, and if so, how do you stop them from having such a reaction?

            My Buttercup was like that. She would invariably pant, drool, and
            vomit when taken anywhere in the vehicle. Vets always thought she was
            acutely ill even when I just took her for routine checkups and
            vaccinations.

            I eventually learned to spray Feliway on a pad and put it into her
            carrier at least half an hour before I put the cat into the carrier
            and took her into the vehicle. That 30-60 minutes seemed to make a
            huge difference in the effectiveness of the Feliway, so she was
            finally able to travel without panic and puking.

            Jim Sinclair  jisincla@...
            www.jimsinclair.org
            http://moosepuppy.petfinder.com
          • Westgold
            Great advice. My vet also told me that I could give Tigger a double dose of the atenolol before any really stressful event. It is not a sedative, but helps
            Message 5 of 22 , May 3, 2012
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              Great advice. My vet also told me that I could give Tigger a double dose of the atenolol before any really stressful event. It is not a sedative, but helps with the heart rhythm. But I wouldn't do this unless my vet approved -- so check with yours ahead of time.
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              From: Jim Sinclair
              To: Joanne Haeussinger
              Cc: joeychloe ; feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:03 PM
              Subject: Re: [FH] plan for an emergency...



              On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Joanne Haeussinger <chmiss01@...> wrote:

              > I even put Feliway in her carrier. Do any of you have cats that get super nervous when going to the vet, and if so, how do you stop them from having such a reaction?

              My Buttercup was like that. She would invariably pant, drool, and
              vomit when taken anywhere in the vehicle. Vets always thought she was
              acutely ill even when I just took her for routine checkups and
              vaccinations.

              I eventually learned to spray Feliway on a pad and put it into her
              carrier at least half an hour before I put the cat into the carrier
              and took her into the vehicle. That 30-60 minutes seemed to make a
              huge difference in the effectiveness of the Feliway, so she was
              finally able to travel without panic and puking.

              Jim Sinclair jisincla@...
              www.jimsinclair.org
              http://moosepuppy.petfinder.com




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