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RE: [FH] Help- CRF & HCM.

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  • Judi Levens
    Ryan and Lauren; I am so sorry for what you are going through with Toby...I hope things get better soon...big hugs...Judi and Angel Max To:
    Message 1 of 7 , Oct 11, 2011
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      Ryan and Lauren; I am so sorry for what you are going through with Toby...I hope things get better soon...big hugs...Judi and Angel Max




      To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
      From: tobythelegend@...
      Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:36:22 +0000
      Subject: [FH] Help- CRF & HCM.




























      Has anyone had an HCM kitty go into CRF? That's where we are at with Eli. The vet is not sure why Eli is in CRF, but our suspicion is that he may have had a small clot or partial clot go to his kidneys. He has suffered one major saddle thrombus, and two minor instances. I'm wondering if a fragment of a blood clot finally hit a terminal area.



      His urine levels were terrible. BUN 226, Creatinine 10.6, Phos. 10.6. We're giving him a few days to see if IV therapy will help. We need to get him eating again. We stopped his Atenolol, as I've read that it can cause further issues and renal failure. He is only on Plavix and Benazepril now.



      Any advice, thoughts, suggestions, prayers, would be greatly appreciated at this point. I'm going to my doctor for anti-anxiety meds. tomorrow and have an appointment with a counselor on Friday. I'm so thankful for this group; we are united in our grief.



      -Ryan & Lauren and their "son", Eli


















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    • acrocat@rocketmail.com
      Oh I m so sorry to hear this. Is he at a specialty/emergency center getting 24 hour care? It s essential that he s someplace with 24 hour care. Is he on
      Message 2 of 7 , Oct 11, 2011
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        Oh I'm so sorry to hear this. Is he at a specialty/emergency center getting 24 hour care? It's essential that he's someplace with 24 hour care.

        Is he on Lasix? There is no chance that he got an overdose somehow? Were his kidney values normal before this? No chance that he ate any plants or human meds?

        If he is not eating, and as he needs fluids, please don't hesitate to have them put in a temporary feeding tube. They can pass a soft tube through one of his nostrils and give him food and water that way. Heart kitties can benefit from this type of hydration because they can only tolerate a little (or sometimes no) IV hydration. Also, cats who don't eat can develop other problems very quickly.

        I agree that giving him a little time is reasonable. I also think that you and your wife and Toby have fought very hard in the past few months, and it's not unreasonable to think about saying goodbye. Give him a little time, but think also of the big picture. The goal is for him to go back to being himself: eating, preening, snuggling, purring. When you feel like he's not going to regain any of that ground, you'll know then that it may be time to help him move on.

        The biggest tragedy is that our life spans are so disparate. I lost my dog late last year and he was an older guy, but you know I would have taken care of him forever -- I felt (and still feel) it was so unfair, he had a place with me and I'd always take care of him. But these things aren't fair, and we are given the honor of being their caretakers for a short while only.

        You and your wife have my sympathy. I know how hard this is. Please keep us posted.

        Adriann

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      • elfinmyst@aol.com
        Hi I`m sorry Eli is feeling poorly.Is he on any diuretics? Please don t suddenly stop atenolol, that can have an adverse effect, make sure you taper it down
        Message 3 of 7 , Oct 12, 2011
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          Hi

          I`m sorry Eli is feeling poorly.Is he on any diuretics? Please don't
          suddenly stop atenolol, that can have an adverse effect, make sure you taper it
          down first and under the direction of his vet. HCM kitties often have renal
          issues due to the diuretics they are on and its a balancing act.

          I hope Eli is feeling better with his fluids.

          Lyn

          _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)

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        • tobythelegend
          Hi everyone, Thank you for the input. Sorry for the confusion, Toby was the name of a previous cat, many years ago... I named my yahoo account after him :)
          Message 4 of 7 , Oct 12, 2011
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            Hi everyone,

            Thank you for the input. Sorry for the confusion, Toby was the name of a previous cat, many years ago... I named my yahoo account after him :) Eli is our heart kitty. Lauren is my wife :)

            To answer some questions...

            1. Eli is at the closest thing we have to a cat hospital in the area. He has a vet there with him from 8 a.m.-9 p.m. and we are paying for a vet tech to monitor him over night. The director is a board certified internal medicine specialist and is in charge of Eli's case.

            2. Eli is not on any type of diuretic/lasix. He was previously, but we titrated him off about a month ago. Plavix and Benazepril are the only thing he is taking.

            3. The reason we stopped atenolol is the vet thought he may be overdosing on it due to his kidneys' inability to filter it out of his system at this point. His symptoms (wheezing, weakness in back legs) that appeared a few days ago are consistent with atenolol overdose. He has since stopped wheezing and is able to run and jump again. His chest xrays showed his chest being clear of fluids. So while it is only correlational, I think it's still the right choice?

            Right now they have him on fluids through his jugular. They are monitoring fluids in and fluids out. They may do an echo on kidneys. The vet shared that Eli showed some interest in eating last night, which would be his first in a few days. We are about to go see him and give him his Plavix and Benazepril.

            Thank you so much for the input and well wishes. I will keep you all updated. Please feel free to submit any other thoughts/questions/suggestions. We appreciate it.

            Lauren, Ryan & Eli
          • Ioana Boie
            Our thoughts are with you guys and Eli. We are sending you positive vibes and hope he rides smoothly through these times. Ioana, Piperus and Angel Pepe
            Message 5 of 7 , Oct 12, 2011
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              Our thoughts are with you guys and Eli. We are sending you positive vibes and hope he rides smoothly through these times.

              Ioana, Piperus and Angel Pepe


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