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Re: Luigi's Ultrasound, good & bad news

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  • kellikitti
    Hi L-Danyielle, I m sorry to hear that things are still up in the air for you and Luigi. I know you mentioned finances are tight-- if you re not already doing
    Message 1 of 5 , Aug 3, 2011
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      Hi L-Danyielle,

      I'm sorry to hear that things are still up in the air for you and Luigi.

      I know you mentioned finances are tight-- if you're not already doing it, you may want to have the vet call in your prescriptions to a walmart or target pharmacy. I get all of Cleo's meds at Target and they are $4 each. big savings. We use a compounded liquid lasix, so we can't get that there, but everything else she takes is a $4 generic. You can check their websites for the lists of $4 generics.

      I know, that's a small savings compared to expensive medical procedures.

      How is the appetite stimulant working? I had a kitty on the cyproheptadine (spelling wrong I am sure), and we didn't find it that effective with her appetite. I'm not sure if you've gotten connected with this other yahoo group for feline assisted feeding but they were incredibly helpful for me with a different kitty a few years ago:
      http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/messages

      When you get results from the vet, you can always jot some stuff down or you can ask them to write down some of the stuff for you. How are Luigi's liver and kidney levels in his bloodwork?
      I know when we go to see the cardio, I have to write down the questions I want to ask before I get into the appointment, or I forget them all when they start throwing information at me.

      I don't have other advice for you right now but I wish you and Luigi well. Try to take care of yourself and give him lots of snuggles and love.

      Laurel

      --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "harris.rose@..." <harris.rose@...> wrote:

      >
      > The ultrasound yesterday showed that Luigi doesn't have serious heart disease. He couldn't figure out why the fluid is accumulating and gave me a bunch of ways to go but all are very expensive and none have a good prognosis.
      >
      > He removed 236ml fluid from his chest too and we'll have them analyzed again w/blood work to look for lipids and try to confirm, again, one option of chylous pleural effusion. Dr. Rivers has heard of using Rutin but said the doctor who did the study that said it works now feels it doesn't work, now that they've had more cats trying this.
      >
      > So it's good news & bad news. Have to call my Vet to figure out what the next step is. I've stopped all heart meds. for Luigi but still have him on the diuretics. Unfortunately the diuretics aren't working so far. He is on Rutin twice a day too.
      >
      > He is very mopey today and I'm hoping it's because he was at the Vet waiting for the test from noon and we didn't get home until 7:30pm.
      > L-Danyielle
      >
    • acrocat@rocketmail.com
      ... Please keep us posted on the results. The lung lobe collapse may just be because of the effusion in his chest. If you have an internal medicine
      Message 2 of 5 , Aug 4, 2011
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        --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "harris.rose@..." <harris.rose@...> wrote:
        > I get results on triglycerides in his blood and in the fluid removed tomorrow. My Vet said hope for True chylous pleural effusion. The Psudo one is less treatable. He also might have cancer since he has some lung collapse too.


        Please keep us posted on the results. The lung lobe collapse may just be because of the effusion in his chest. If you have an internal medicine specialist in your town (these are way more common than cardiologists, you can look at acvim.org), you may benefit from a consult with him or her as they are expert 'jugglers' when cats may have more than one issue.

        Adriann
      • janie
        If he has got chylous pleural effusion the fluid is milky. Rutin will work!!!!! I had a cat years ago who had this no heart problems at all and she got it. She
        Message 3 of 5 , Aug 4, 2011
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          If he has got chylous pleural effusion the fluid is milky. Rutin will
          work!!!!! I had a cat years ago who had this no heart problems at all
          and she got it. She was 5 lived about 5 more years and in good health.
          I did monitor her and not let her out in heat and all.
          It did take her in the end. I had another one Jaguar who a few years
          ago had it. We went to Purdue University and they said its rare as
          there was no reason. Jag had to be tapped 3 times. Then all of a
          sudden the rutin kicked in. He was back to himself . Both cats were
          put on low reside foods. Now he was on Purina for weight reduction as
          he was a little over weight. She was on Euckanuba which I dont know if
          they make it. Its to help bot for so much chyle. There is a surgery
          very expensive and they had considered Jag if he didnt get well as the
          long you wait it isnt good. He got it under control but we lost him
          last year to cancer. He fought so hard with all he had he even was
          fiv. But if it turns out you got this my cats were living proof they
          may live. Rutin works. I hope its something easier than that but just
          wanted to put in my cats experience. There are others on here too,
          Good luck Janie
        • Melissa Legan
          My vet and The Ohio State University made the suggestion of ROYAL CANIN CALORIE CONTROL 38- both canned and dry for Winston s chylothroax. Its a prescription
          Message 4 of 5 , Aug 5, 2011
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            My vet and The Ohio State University made the suggestion of ROYAL CANIN CALORIE CONTROL 38- both canned and dry for Winston's chylothroax. Its a prescription diet and the vet can order it. Wellness actually makes a low fat diet too- but my vets thought the prescription diet was best. I have some of the wet and dry if you;d like to try them for Luigi.
             
             
            I still have 10 pounds of the dry left after Winston passed away last month......
             
            Melissa

            --- On Fri, 8/5/11, harris.rose@... <harris.rose@...> wrote:


            From: harris.rose@... <harris.rose@...>
            Subject: [FH] Re: Luigi's fluid is milky & pink
            To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 2:05 PM


             



            He does have the milky fluid, it's pink from blood probably, but when analyzed doesn't have all it's supposed to have to actually be chylous pleural effusion. I now have him on Rutin 3x/day.

            What is a low fat diet? Does it have the be the prescription types like R/d and W/d?

            Right now I am hand feeding him canned C/d and sneaking in some canned K/d. Dry food he's eating on his own, tiny bit, is C/d dry.
            L-Danyielle

            --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, janie <sockster@...> wrote:
            >
            > If he has got chylous pleural effusion the fluid is milky. Rutin will
            > work!!!!! I had a cat years ago who had this no heart problems at all
            > and she got it. She was 5 lived about 5 more years and in good health.
            > I did monitor her and not let her out in heat and all.
            > It did take her in the end. I had another one Jaguar who a few years
            > ago had it. We went to Purdue University and they said its rare as
            > there was no reason. Jag had to be tapped 3 times. Then all of a
            > sudden the rutin kicked in. He was back to himself . Both cats were
            > put on low reside foods. Now he was on Purina for weight reduction as
            > he was a little over weight. She was on Euckanuba which I dont know if
            > they make it. Its to help bot for so much chyle. There is a surgery
            > very expensive and they had considered Jag if he didnt get well as the
            > long you wait it isnt good. He got it under control but we lost him
            > last year to cancer. He fought so hard with all he had he even was
            > fiv. But if it turns out you got this my cats were living proof they
            > may live. Rutin works. I hope its something easier than that but just
            > wanted to put in my cats experience. There are others on here too,
            > Good luck Janie
            >








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          • janie
            Purina O/M weight management and for thorax. Our cats loved it. They all shed a pound and Jaguar lost his weight and ate a lot of it. Hills w/d but Purdue
            Message 5 of 5 , Aug 6, 2011
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              Purina O/M weight management and for thorax. Our cats loved it. They
              all shed a pound and Jaguar lost his weight and ate a lot of it.
              Hills w/d but Purdue told us for him Purina O/M as he was a little
              over weight. Sure hope the rutin works. Yes 500mg. pill but I think I
              cut that in half. Half a pill at breakfast then supper and bed. I
              dont think its a whole 500 mg pill each time. Its been awhile but I
              know I cut them in half. They can mess your carpet up too so be
              careful with the stain. Maybe someone can clarify. I know I cut them
              and Jag was 20 pounds he had the same dose as the 11 pounder. Janie
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