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  • elfinmyst@aol.com
    Hi Ana Punky is absolutely beautiful.! He s going to be huge when he grows into those ears.He looks semi longhair and a pedigree cross possibly? If he has had
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      Hi Ana

      Punky is absolutely beautiful.! He's going to be huge when he grows into
      those ears.He looks semi longhair and a pedigree cross possibly?

      If he has had an ultrasound, you can ask that to be forwarded to the new
      cardiologist. Was it a cardiologist who did the initial ultrasound? You need
      a definite diagnosis. HCM in a kitten is usually genetic and advances
      quickly so I would have thought he would need some medication as Trixi and Maxi
      and Milli had. Unless it's mild, then they may monitor him with repeat
      ultrasounds to see if it progresses.

      The achondroplasia is likely an inherited defect and makes pituitary
      dwarfism unlikely. It would have affected his back legs as well and his body
      looks normal for a 4 month kitten. As for the neutering, well that's always a
      risk of course. Milli and Trixi and Maxi were all neutered and came through.
      There are some anaesthetics which are safer but I would take the
      cardiologists advice.

      Undescended testicles can lead to a tumour in later life so they do like to
      remove them. Also you would have a full male cat capable of mating and
      spraying. But he's only 4 months, you can give him time to settle yet. Every
      operation is a risk with a heart kitty, but that would be entirely your
      choice. We had Trixi neutered when we had no choice because she had an tooth
      abcess. She sailed through it. Milli had a bad time and suffered a fit under
      the anaesthetic, she also had a tumor removed at the same time. But she
      recovered. Maxi had no issues at all and neither did any of the other heart
      cats.

      Except Molly who was allergic to catgut!

      Hope that helps. I`m glad you're seeing a cardiologist. You love Punky
      every day. Only special people are chosen by heart kitties:)

      Love Lyn

      _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)


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    • cathy coleman
               This is an email I have dreaded writing but it is time to do so. I want to let you all know that I had to let my Winston go last night. It was
      Message 2 of 12 , Dec 10, 2010
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                 This is an email I have dreaded writing but it is time to do so. I want to let you all know that I had to let my Winston go last night. It was very very hard but I know it was the right decision. Ironically, it was not the HCM that got him. It was something that appeared to be unrleated. Winston had slowed down a bit but seemed mostly himself up until this past Saturday when he did not wake me up at the crack of dawn to eat. He ate only a few bites on Sat and on Sunday and seemed very listless and not himself. I brought him on Monday morning to Tufts where they said he was very dehyrated. His kidney values were not good, and both the doctors and I thought this was the inevitable battle between the kidney and the heart which many of you are familiar with I know. They thought they might be able to turn the situation around with adminstering fluids and potassium pills.
         
        We tried that. He still wasn't eating and still seemed sick. I brought him back in and he stayed the night. When I brought him in, I told them about the "guck" in his left eye. I had wiped out this brown discharge out of his left eye but it seemed to be back.They didn't seem too concerned at the time. The next day though, they called me and said his kidney values were still bad but a little better, but the bad news was he appeared to have either a tumor or a bad infection in his eye. It had gotten much much worse in just one day! He looked like he had been punched in the eye. His left side of his head and eye were swollen. He could barely open it. They recommended that if we go forward with treatment, we do the feeding tube and take out the eye.
         
        At 15 and with his progressing HCM (which was diagnosed end stage in May of 09 and had progressed as of his last echo in June), I couldn't see doing this. It seemed too much to put him through with no gaurantee of buying him much more than maybe a couple of months. If the tumor was cancer, I couldn't imagine treating at this point.
         
        Winston was the love of my life in a lot of ways -- a perfect match for me -- affectionate, a constant companion (underfoot even when it was inconvenient!). I live alone and I can't bring msyelf to go home yet. I stayed at my parents' the last 2 nights. I am dreading going home to the empty house and the empty feeling that goes with it.
         
        I do want to say this though -- you all have been a god send. I appreciate all the kindness and advice and wisdom I've received here over the last year and a half. You have all been through hard times and are so kind and loving. I would like to offer some meds. I just got an order of Plavix and Pimobendan and also have some Enalapril, Spironolactone, and lasix.
        I've benefitted from others generosity on this list in this way and woudl like to give back to someone who needs these. I know the Plavix and Pimo are especially expensive and I know that can be a tough thing! Please email me off list if you're interested and I'll get this all together sometime in the next week or so.
         
        Thank you again. I always sign this Cathy & Winston. It feels too sad to sign it just Cathy so I'm going to thank you from Winston too who I know would also offer his thanks,
        Cathy & Winston in MA


        At the height of laughter, the universe is flung into a kaleidoscope of new possibilities. ~Jean Houston

        --- On Fri, 12/10/10, elfinmyst@... <elfinmyst@...> wrote:


        From: elfinmyst@... <elfinmyst@...>
        Subject: Re: [FH] Re: Punky - only HCM?
        To: anagtz@...
        Cc: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 3:01 PM


         



        Hi Ana

        Punky is absolutely beautiful.! He's going to be huge when he grows into
        those ears.He looks semi longhair and a pedigree cross possibly?

        If he has had an ultrasound, you can ask that to be forwarded to the new
        cardiologist. Was it a cardiologist who did the initial ultrasound? You need
        a definite diagnosis. HCM in a kitten is usually genetic and advances
        quickly so I would have thought he would need some medication as Trixi and Maxi
        and Milli had. Unless it's mild, then they may monitor him with repeat
        ultrasounds to see if it progresses.

        The achondroplasia is likely an inherited defect and makes pituitary
        dwarfism unlikely. It would have affected his back legs as well and his body
        looks normal for a 4 month kitten. As for the neutering, well that's always a
        risk of course. Milli and Trixi and Maxi were all neutered and came through.
        There are some anaesthetics which are safer but I would take the
        cardiologists advice.

        Undescended testicles can lead to a tumour in later life so they do like to
        remove them. Also you would have a full male cat capable of mating and
        spraying. But he's only 4 months, you can give him time to settle yet. Every
        operation is a risk with a heart kitty, but that would be entirely your
        choice. We had Trixi neutered when we had no choice because she had an tooth
        abcess. She sailed through it. Milli had a bad time and suffered a fit under
        the anaesthetic, she also had a tumor removed at the same time. But she
        recovered. Maxi had no issues at all and neither did any of the other heart
        cats.

        Except Molly who was allergic to catgut!

        Hope that helps. I`m glad you're seeing a cardiologist. You love Punky
        every day. Only special people are chosen by heart kitties:)

        Love Lyn

        _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)

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      • Westgold
        Oh, Cathy, I cried when I read your letter. I am so sorry you lost your special little boy. But you absolutely did the right thing. Treating for cancer is
        Message 3 of 12 , Dec 10, 2010
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          Oh, Cathy, I cried when I read your letter. I am so sorry you lost your special little boy. But you absolutely did the right thing. Treating for cancer is only worthwhile when the kitty is young and in good health otherwise. It would have been cruel to put him through all that at his age and in his condition. He is at peace now, and happy and healthy again -- and I know he's waiting for you at the Bridge. I know we will be reunited with our little ones. It's so hard to let them go, but we have to think of them first.

          Sincerely, Michelle, Susie Q & Tigger Too in Toronto

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        • Judi Levens
          Cathy, I am so sorry to hear of your loss of Mr. Winston...I feel that I know you both, and have been through it with you. It sounds like it was truly his
          Message 4 of 12 , Dec 10, 2010
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            Cathy, I am so sorry to hear of your loss of Mr. Winston...I feel that I know you both, and have been "through it" with you. It sounds like it was truly his time, and he gave you a great 15 years, so that's wonderful memories to hold onto. I can totally relate to what you are saying...I will never be prepared to say goodbye to Max either...I can't imagine facing that day. I so hope that you can get through this knowing that there is so much love and sympathy here on the blog for your loss, and knowing in your heart that you gave him a wonderful life full of love and affection; he was a very lucky boy, and I'm sure he knows it. Please consider another kitty...it won't ever be the same, but maybe it will take your mind off of the pain you're feeling right now. Will you post Winston's photo again? Thank you, and big hugs to you...I will light a candle for your boy and you will both be in my thoughts...Judi and Max







            To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
            From: catherama@...
            Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:43:28 -0800
            Subject: [FH] Saying goodbye to Mr Winston






            This is an email I have dreaded writing but it is time to do so. I want to let you all know that I had to let my Winston go last night. It was very very hard but I know it was the right decision. Ironically, it was not the HCM that got him. It was something that appeared to be unrleated. Winston had slowed down a bit but seemed mostly himself up until this past Saturday when he did not wake me up at the crack of dawn to eat. He ate only a few bites on Sat and on Sunday and seemed very listless and not himself. I brought him on Monday morning to Tufts where they said he was very dehyrated. His kidney values were not good, and both the doctors and I thought this was the inevitable battle between the kidney and the heart which many of you are familiar with I know. They thought they might be able to turn the situation around with adminstering fluids and potassium pills.

            We tried that. He still wasn't eating and still seemed sick. I brought him back in and he stayed the night. When I brought him in, I told them about the "guck" in his left eye. I had wiped out this brown discharge out of his left eye but it seemed to be back.They didn't seem too concerned at the time. The next day though, they called me and said his kidney values were still bad but a little better, but the bad news was he appeared to have either a tumor or a bad infection in his eye. It had gotten much much worse in just one day! He looked like he had been punched in the eye. His left side of his head and eye were swollen. He could barely open it. They recommended that if we go forward with treatment, we do the feeding tube and take out the eye.

            At 15 and with his progressing HCM (which was diagnosed end stage in May of 09 and had progressed as of his last echo in June), I couldn't see doing this. It seemed too much to put him through with no gaurantee of buying him much more than maybe a couple of months. If the tumor was cancer, I couldn't imagine treating at this point.

            Winston was the love of my life in a lot of ways -- a perfect match for me -- affectionate, a constant companion (underfoot even when it was inconvenient!). I live alone and I can't bring msyelf to go home yet. I stayed at my parents' the last 2 nights. I am dreading going home to the empty house and the empty feeling that goes with it.

            I do want to say this though -- you all have been a god send. I appreciate all the kindness and advice and wisdom I've received here over the last year and a half. You have all been through hard times and are so kind and loving. I would like to offer some meds. I just got an order of Plavix and Pimobendan and also have some Enalapril, Spironolactone, and lasix.
            I've benefitted from others generosity on this list in this way and woudl like to give back to someone who needs these. I know the Plavix and Pimo are especially expensive and I know that can be a tough thing! Please email me off list if you're interested and I'll get this all together sometime in the next week or so.

            Thank you again. I always sign this Cathy & Winston. It feels too sad to sign it just Cathy so I'm going to thank you from Winston too who I know would also offer his thanks,
            Cathy & Winston in MA

            At the height of laughter, the universe is flung into a kaleidoscope of new possibilities. ~Jean Houston

            --- On Fri, 12/10/10, elfinmyst@... <elfinmyst@...> wrote:

            From: elfinmyst@... <elfinmyst@...>
            Subject: Re: [FH] Re: Punky - only HCM?
            To: anagtz@...
            Cc: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 3:01 PM



            Hi Ana

            Punky is absolutely beautiful.! He's going to be huge when he grows into
            those ears.He looks semi longhair and a pedigree cross possibly?

            If he has had an ultrasound, you can ask that to be forwarded to the new
            cardiologist. Was it a cardiologist who did the initial ultrasound? You need
            a definite diagnosis. HCM in a kitten is usually genetic and advances
            quickly so I would have thought he would need some medication as Trixi and Maxi
            and Milli had. Unless it's mild, then they may monitor him with repeat
            ultrasounds to see if it progresses.

            The achondroplasia is likely an inherited defect and makes pituitary
            dwarfism unlikely. It would have affected his back legs as well and his body
            looks normal for a 4 month kitten. As for the neutering, well that's always a
            risk of course. Milli and Trixi and Maxi were all neutered and came through.
            There are some anaesthetics which are safer but I would take the
            cardiologists advice.

            Undescended testicles can lead to a tumour in later life so they do like to
            remove them. Also you would have a full male cat capable of mating and
            spraying. But he's only 4 months, you can give him time to settle yet. Every
            operation is a risk with a heart kitty, but that would be entirely your
            choice. We had Trixi neutered when we had no choice because she had an tooth
            abcess. She sailed through it. Milli had a bad time and suffered a fit under
            the anaesthetic, she also had a tumor removed at the same time. But she
            recovered. Maxi had no issues at all and neither did any of the other heart
            cats.

            Except Molly who was allergic to catgut!

            Hope that helps. I`m glad you're seeing a cardiologist. You love Punky
            every day. Only special people are chosen by heart kitties:)

            Love Lyn

            _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)

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          • Suze Winn
            So sorry I didnot get this post only thru the round about way. . .Cathy You have to know that you were the very best MOM that could be. Winston was so
            Message 5 of 12 , Dec 10, 2010
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              So sorry I didnot get this post only thru the round about way. . .Cathy You have to know that you were the very best MOM that could be. Winston was so fortunate to have you in his life. Now he is out of pain and I know the
              very pain that you must be feeling. It is so hard when you love so deeply BUT with that love you give him freedom from his pain.

              Prayers for Winstons flight to heaven and for healing for you!

              Hugs,

              suze and the bengal gang

              > To: catherama@...; feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
              > From: casaobelisco@...
              > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:25:22 -0800
              > Subject: RE: [FH] Saying goodbye to Mr Winston
              >
              >
              > Cathy, I am so sorry to hear of your loss of Mr. Winston...I feel that I know you both, and have been "through it" with you. It sounds like it was truly his time, and he gave you a great 15 years, so that's wonderful memories to hold onto. I can totally relate to what you are saying...I will never be prepared to say goodbye to Max either...I can't imagine facing that day. I so hope that you can get through this knowing that there is so much love and sympathy here on the blog for your loss, and knowing in your heart that you gave him a wonderful life full of love and affection; he was a very lucky boy, and I'm sure he knows it. Please consider another kitty...it won't ever be the same, but maybe it will take your mind off of the pain you're feeling right now. Will you post Winston's photo again? Thank you, and big hugs to you...I will light a candle for your boy and you will both be in my thoughts...Judi and Max
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              > To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
              > From: catherama@...
              > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:43:28 -0800
              > Subject: [FH] Saying goodbye to Mr Winston
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > This is an email I have dreaded writing but it is time to do so. I want to let you all know that I had to let my Winston go last night. It was very very hard but I know it was the right decision. Ironically, it was not the HCM that got him. It was something that appeared to be unrleated. Winston had slowed down a bit but seemed mostly himself up until this past Saturday when he did not wake me up at the crack of dawn to eat. He ate only a few bites on Sat and on Sunday and seemed very listless and not himself. I brought him on Monday morning to Tufts where they said he was very dehyrated. His kidney values were not good, and both the doctors and I thought this was the inevitable battle between the kidney and the heart which many of you are familiar with I know. They thought they might be able to turn the situation around with adminstering fluids and potassium pills.
              >
              > We tried that. He still wasn't eating and still seemed sick. I brought him back in and he stayed the night. When I brought him in, I told them about the "guck" in his left eye. I had wiped out this brown discharge out of his left eye but it seemed to be back.They didn't seem too concerned at the time. The next day though, they called me and said his kidney values were still bad but a little better, but the bad news was he appeared to have either a tumor or a bad infection in his eye. It had gotten much much worse in just one day! He looked like he had been punched in the eye. His left side of his head and eye were swollen. He could barely open it. They recommended that if we go forward with treatment, we do the feeding tube and take out the eye.
              >
              > At 15 and with his progressing HCM (which was diagnosed end stage in May of 09 and had progressed as of his last echo in June), I couldn't see doing this. It seemed too much to put him through with no gaurantee of buying him much more than maybe a couple of months. If the tumor was cancer, I couldn't imagine treating at this point.
              >
              > Winston was the love of my life in a lot of ways -- a perfect match for me -- affectionate, a constant companion (underfoot even when it was inconvenient!). I live alone and I can't bring msyelf to go home yet. I stayed at my parents' the last 2 nights. I am dreading going home to the empty house and the empty feeling that goes with it.
              >
              > I do want to say this though -- you all have been a god send. I appreciate all the kindness and advice and wisdom I've received here over the last year and a half. You have all been through hard times and are so kind and loving. I would like to offer some meds. I just got an order of Plavix and Pimobendan and also have some Enalapril, Spironolactone, and lasix.
              > I've benefitted from others generosity on this list in this way and woudl like to give back to someone who needs these. I know the Plavix and Pimo are especially expensive and I know that can be a tough thing! Please email me off list if you're interested and I'll get this all together sometime in the next week or so.
              >
              > Thank you again. I always sign this Cathy & Winston. It feels too sad to sign it just Cathy so I'm going to thank you from Winston too who I know would also offer his thanks,
              > Cathy & Winston in MA
              >
              > At the height of laughter, the universe is flung into a kaleidoscope of new possibilities. ~Jean Houston
              >
              > --- On Fri, 12/10/10, elfinmyst@... <elfinmyst@...> wrote:
              >
              > From: elfinmyst@... <elfinmyst@...>
              > Subject: Re: [FH] Re: Punky - only HCM?
              > To: anagtz@...
              > Cc: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 3:01 PM
              >
              >
              >
              > Hi Ana
              >
              > Punky is absolutely beautiful.! He's going to be huge when he grows into
              > those ears.He looks semi longhair and a pedigree cross possibly?
              >
              > If he has had an ultrasound, you can ask that to be forwarded to the new
              > cardiologist. Was it a cardiologist who did the initial ultrasound? You need
              > a definite diagnosis. HCM in a kitten is usually genetic and advances
              > quickly so I would have thought he would need some medication as Trixi and Maxi
              > and Milli had. Unless it's mild, then they may monitor him with repeat
              > ultrasounds to see if it progresses.
              >
              > The achondroplasia is likely an inherited defect and makes pituitary
              > dwarfism unlikely. It would have affected his back legs as well and his body
              > looks normal for a 4 month kitten. As for the neutering, well that's always a
              > risk of course. Milli and Trixi and Maxi were all neutered and came through.
              > There are some anaesthetics which are safer but I would take the
              > cardiologists advice.
              >
              > Undescended testicles can lead to a tumour in later life so they do like to
              > remove them. Also you would have a full male cat capable of mating and
              > spraying. But he's only 4 months, you can give him time to settle yet. Every
              > operation is a risk with a heart kitty, but that would be entirely your
              > choice. We had Trixi neutered when we had no choice because she had an tooth
              > abcess. She sailed through it. Milli had a bad time and suffered a fit under
              > the anaesthetic, she also had a tumor removed at the same time. But she
              > recovered. Maxi had no issues at all and neither did any of the other heart
              > cats.
              >
              > Except Molly who was allergic to catgut!
              >
              > Hope that helps. I`m glad you're seeing a cardiologist. You love Punky
              > every day. Only special people are chosen by heart kitties:)
              >
              > Love Lyn
              >
              > _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)
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            • Mmayer11
              Dear Cathy, I am so deeply sorry to learn of Winston s passing. You and he have put up such a brave fight to keep him well for as long as I can remember. I
              Message 6 of 12 , Dec 10, 2010
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                Dear Cathy,
                I am so deeply sorry to learn of Winston's passing. You and he have put up such a brave fight to keep him well for as long as I can remember. I wish that you will find peace with the loss of your precious little Winston. I have a candle burning for him tonight at...
                http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=winst
                Love,
                Marianna




                -----Original Message-----
                From: cathy coleman <catherama@...>
                To: feline-heart <feline-heart@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 3:43 pm
                Subject: [FH] Saying goodbye to Mr Winston





                This is an email I have dreaded writing but it is time to do so. I want to let you all know that I had to let my Winston go last night. It was very very hard but I know it was the right decision. Ironically, it was not the HCM that got him. It was something that appeared to be unrleated. Winston had slowed down a bit but seemed mostly himself up until this past Saturday when he did not wake me up at the crack of dawn to eat. He ate only a few bites on Sat and on Sunday and seemed very listless and not himself. I brought him on Monday morning to Tufts where they said he was very dehyrated. His kidney values were not good, and both the doctors and I thought this was the inevitable battle between the kidney and the heart which many of you are familiar with I know. They thought they might be able to turn the situation around with adminstering fluids and potassium pills.

                We tried that. He still wasn't eating and still seemed sick. I brought him back in and he stayed the night. When I brought him in, I told them about the "guck" in his left eye. I had wiped out this brown discharge out of his left eye but it seemed to be back.They didn't seem too concerned at the time. The next day though, they called me and said his kidney values were still bad but a little better, but the bad news was he appeared to have either a tumor or a bad infection in his eye. It had gotten much much worse in just one day! He looked like he had been punched in the eye. His left side of his head and eye were swollen. He could barely open it. They recommended that if we go forward with treatment, we do the feeding tube and take out the eye.

                At 15 and with his progressing HCM (which was diagnosed end stage in May of 09 and had progressed as of his last echo in June), I couldn't see doing this. It seemed too much to put him through with no gaurantee of buying him much more than maybe a couple of months. If the tumor was cancer, I couldn't imagine treating at this point.

                Winston was the love of my life in a lot of ways -- a perfect match for me -- affectionate, a constant companion (underfoot even when it was inconvenient!). I live alone and I can't bring msyelf to go home yet. I stayed at my parents' the last 2 nights. I am dreading going home to the empty house and the empty feeling that goes with it.

                I do want to say this though -- you all have been a god send. I appreciate all the kindness and advice and wisdom I've received here over the last year and a half. You have all been through hard times and are so kind and loving. I would like to offer some meds. I just got an order of Plavix and Pimobendan and also have some Enalapril, Spironolactone, and lasix.
                I've benefitted from others generosity on this list in this way and woudl like to give back to someone who needs these. I know the Plavix and Pimo are especially expensive and I know that can be a tough thing! Please email me off list if you're interested and I'll get this all together sometime in the next week or so.

                Thank you again. I always sign this Cathy & Winston. It feels too sad to sign it just Cathy so I'm going to thank you from Winston too who I know would also offer his thanks,
                Cathy & Winston in MA

                At the height of laughter, the universe is flung into a kaleidoscope of new possibilities. ~Jean Houston

                --- On Fri, 12/10/10, elfinmyst@... <elfinmyst@...> wrote:

                From: elfinmyst@... <elfinmyst@...>
                Subject: Re: [FH] Re: Punky - only HCM?
                To: anagtz@...
                Cc: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 3:01 PM



                Hi Ana

                Punky is absolutely beautiful.! He's going to be huge when he grows into
                those ears.He looks semi longhair and a pedigree cross possibly?

                If he has had an ultrasound, you can ask that to be forwarded to the new
                cardiologist. Was it a cardiologist who did the initial ultrasound? You need
                a definite diagnosis. HCM in a kitten is usually genetic and advances
                quickly so I would have thought he would need some medication as Trixi and Maxi
                and Milli had. Unless it's mild, then they may monitor him with repeat
                ultrasounds to see if it progresses.

                The achondroplasia is likely an inherited defect and makes pituitary
                dwarfism unlikely. It would have affected his back legs as well and his body
                looks normal for a 4 month kitten. As for the neutering, well that's always a
                risk of course. Milli and Trixi and Maxi were all neutered and came through.
                There are some anaesthetics which are safer but I would take the
                cardiologists advice.

                Undescended testicles can lead to a tumour in later life so they do like to
                remove them. Also you would have a full male cat capable of mating and
                spraying. But he's only 4 months, you can give him time to settle yet. Every
                operation is a risk with a heart kitty, but that would be entirely your
                choice. We had Trixi neutered when we had no choice because she had an tooth
                abcess. She sailed through it. Milli had a bad time and suffered a fit under
                the anaesthetic, she also had a tumor removed at the same time. But she
                recovered. Maxi had no issues at all and neither did any of the other heart
                cats.

                Except Molly who was allergic to catgut!

                Hope that helps. I`m glad you're seeing a cardiologist. You love Punky
                every day. Only special people are chosen by heart kitties:)

                Love Lyn

                _www.myfurkids.co.uk_ (http://www.myfurkids.co.uk/)

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              • carolroar@aol.com
                Oh Cathy, I m so, so very sorry to hear that you lost your dearest little Winston. My heart breaks for you. You were such a good mom to him and you gave him
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                  Oh Cathy,

                  I'm so, so very sorry to hear that you lost your dearest little Winston. My heart breaks for you. You were such a good mom to him and you gave him so much love and care and kindness. I know that he loved you dearly too and still does. I know how hard it is losing them. I still cry for Snowball. ...but somewhere in my heart I know that they're still here with us, watching over us and staying by our side. So many times I hear others say that they "move on". Maybe they do at some point, but I truly believe that they stay with us a long time after they pass, to make sure we're okay.... and if they do move on, that they can pop back to be by our side in an instant if we ever need them. I talk to Snowball every night and I have to believe that she hears me and is here near me. I just can't see her.

                  I'll light a candle for your dear Mr. Winston tonight. My heart goes out to you and I'm holding you in my prayers too.

                  love,
                  Carol and Angel Snowball
                  and the gang


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