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injected with steroid for asthma but diagnosed with chronic heart condition

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  • lamey.paul
    we have a siamese red point male whos breathing started to get laboured so we took him to the vets for a check up.the vet checked him over with a scope and
    Message 1 of 3 , Apr 29, 2010
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      we have a siamese red point male whos breathing started to get laboured so we took him to the vets for a check up.the vet checked him over with a scope and said his heart sounded good and did nt think there was any fluid around. she said she thought it might be asthma and gave him a steroid injection duphacort.the next morning he was gasping for breathe and really struggling we could nt believe the rapid slump his health had taken.when diagnosed at the vet hospital from x ray and ultra sound we were told he has a chronic heart condition.he had to have fluid drained from his chest.he had to be put in to intensive care and oxygen and drug drips all weekend.we asked if the injection could have made his health slump like that and they denied it whole heartedly.the whole bill cost us over 500 quid which we wonder if this would have been the case if he had not had the injection.has anyone had similar experience of this and is there anything we can give him to improve his health and extend what ever time we have left with him.

      many thanks

      Paul and myster
    • Judi Levens
      Absolutely...we almost lost our Max to exactly the same thing. It s been well documented that steroids can cause congestive heart failure in cats with any
      Message 2 of 3 , Apr 29, 2010
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        Absolutely...we almost lost our Max to exactly the same thing. It's been well documented that steroids can cause congestive heart failure in cats with any level of heart disease. Our cat luckily recovered and went on heart meds 2.5 years ago and is doing well...you need to get your cat to a cardiologist if possible or an internal medicine specialists...most regular vets don't know that much about heart disease, it's a relatively new disease to treat (used to be just a death sentance but is now being treated vry effectively.) I wish you luck with your kitty...hope he recovers well, but never, ever let him have steroids again...he may have asthma also and he will have to be treated separately for that if so, but there are other methods. Hang in there, he'll need heart meds, he should currently be on lasic (furesomide) and something else (often enalapril but there are other choices also.) Many here give their cats CQ10, the supplement also at around 50mg/day and if the disease is advanced he may need Nattokinasse or some other form of blood thinner (plavix, asprin)...the CQ10 and Nattokinasse are supplements which will help build the heart muscle and prevent clots. Many people here have had excellent experiences treating their cats and have had them with them for a long time after diagnosis...good luck...Judi and Max








        To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
        From: paul.lamey@...
        Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:50:59 +0000
        Subject: [FH] injected with steroid for asthma but diagnosed with chronic heart condition





        we have a siamese red point male whos breathing started to get laboured so we took him to the vets for a check up.the vet checked him over with a scope and said his heart sounded good and did nt think there was any fluid around. she said she thought it might be asthma and gave him a steroid injection duphacort.the next morning he was gasping for breathe and really struggling we could nt believe the rapid slump his health had taken.when diagnosed at the vet hospital from x ray and ultra sound we were told he has a chronic heart condition.he had to have fluid drained from his chest.he had to be put in to intensive care and oxygen and drug drips all weekend.we asked if the injection could have made his health slump like that and they denied it whole heartedly.the whole bill cost us over 500 quid which we wonder if this would have been the case if he had not had the injection.has anyone had similar experience of this and is there anything we can give him to improve his health and extend what ever time we have left with him.

        many thanks

        Paul and myster






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        Paul, I am so sorry to hear that, that actually happened to my Nubis, too. He finally started getting better when they gave him the heart meds. Have they
        Message 3 of 3 , Apr 30, 2010
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          Paul, I am so sorry to hear that, that actually happened to my Nubis, too. He finally started getting better when they gave him the heart meds. Have they given your kitty any heart meds? He should be on lasix (it keeps the fluid off their lungs), and an ace-inhibitor like enalapril or benzapril. The supplement CoQ10 has also been great, a lot also use a supplement called cardiostrength. I use Nattokinase because Plavix was too hard on my cat's stomach. Also, DMG, you can look in the files and it lists the supplements.

          If you can get your cat to a cardiologist, then that person can come up with the best treatment plan for your kitty. A cardiologist can do an echocardiogram and give you much more info than a regular vet. By the way, my cardiologist said that many vets deny that there is a link between steriods and heart failure, because they just don't know any better. My cardiologist totally agreed with me that the steriod shot was what put Nubis into heart failure. So I am not surprised your vet is denying it. Plus, they probably don't want to refund your money! Anyways, Nubis is doing very well and his heart disease is very controlled, he runs all over house and up/down the cat trees. Hopefully your cat will be back to that soon.

          Here's the article about steriods causing congestive heart failure~
          http://www.jarvm.com/articles/Vol2Iss3/TOBIASJARVMVol2No304.pdf

          Take care,
          Donna

          --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "lamey.paul" <paul.lamey@...> wrote:
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          > we have a siamese red point male whos breathing started to get laboured so we took him to the vets for a check up.the vet checked him over with a scope and said his heart sounded good and did nt think there was any fluid around. she said she thought it might be asthma and gave him a steroid injection duphacort.the next morning he was gasping for breathe and really struggling we could nt believe the rapid slump his health had taken.when diagnosed at the vet hospital from x ray and ultra sound we were told he has a chronic heart condition.he had to have fluid drained from his chest.he had to be put in to intensive care and oxygen and drug drips all weekend.we asked if the injection could have made his health slump like that and they denied it whole heartedly.the whole bill cost us over 500 quid which we wonder if this would have been the case if he had not had the injection.has anyone had similar experience of this and is there anything we can give him to improve his health and extend what ever time we have left with him.
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          > many thanks
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          > Paul and myster
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