Re: Introduction - Debbie and Aja
- Hi Debbie,
Unless they did an ultrasound (echo) of Aja's heart, there's no way they could have diagnosed her with HCM. You can see an enlarged heart on an xray, yes, but you can't see the walls of the heart and how thick they are without an echo. That's why you would go to the cardiologist.
The second thing that concerns me is that if Aja did NOT have fluid in her lungs, why is she on Furosemide (Lasix)? It's a diuretic and if there is no fluid in the lungs to "dry up", then it's only going to dehydrate Aja, which is dangerous for her kidneys.
If Aja does have HCM, even if it's secondary to hyperthyroid, it's not going to resolve itself with thyroid meds. My Snowball was hyperT first then diagnosed with HCM, and even though she's been on thyroid meds for two years, her heart condition hasn't gone away.
With Aja being on the diuretic, please keep watch on her kidney values. She should be checked regularly to make sure her kidneys are okay, since diuretics can cause kidney failure. We've been there with that one too... the vet not telling us that Lasix can affect the kidneys, and one of our cats years ago went into acute kidney failure from being on Lasix.
I think it would be really important for you to have Aja see a cardiologist to do the ultrasound to find out exactly what's going on with her heart, and if Aja taking diuretics is the right thing for her right now. I know it's expensive, but it's one of those things that's so important, that it's worth it.
Carol and Snowball and the gang
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Aja was diagnosed with HCM this past weekend, apparently secondary to
hyper-thyroid. I took her to the ER because she was having difficulty breathing - she wasn't panting, but she was working so hard to breathe that her sides were heaving. X-rays show an enlarged heart, but not so enlarged as to cause breathing problems, and there was no fluid in her lungs. She was put on oxygen and treated for heart failure.
Aja came home from the ER with prescriptions for furosemide and
benazepril, and instructions to see a cardiologist.
I think 0nce I get her on carbimazole and get her thyroid under control, the other problems will resolve.
- Hi Carol;
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol" <carolroars@...>
> The second thing that concerns me is that if Aja did NOT have fluid in her
> lungs, why is she on Furosemide (Lasix)? It's a diuretic and if there is
> no fluid in the >lungs to "dry up", then it's only going to dehydrate Aja,
> which is dangerous for her kidneys.
Pepper did originally have what was thought to be pneumonia, and was put on
Lasix ASAP when diagnosed with the whole in his heart, but the indication
that the lasix was needed at that time was no longer pneumonia, or fluid
buildup where you would normally expect it. He only had spillage into the
GIT and a combination of the lasix and FortiFlora has cleared that up
I am not disagreeing with you and we have just experienced another use for
lasix that has thankfully worked for our boy. I really hated the explosive
diarrhea he came to us with. )-:
Pat and all the boys.
- Hi Debbie
Yes, HCM can be secondary and controlling the thyroid can reverse the HCM,
or at least make it much better. Thyroid problems are treatable and the HCM is
in that case. However, cats can have Hyper T AND heart disease as separate
conditions, so its good she has treatment.
If the first treatment doesn't work, there is another older drug in a
different class. Not sure what its name is though.. (It's not an -azole..) You need
to get the thyroid under control if you can. Then see whether that brings
the heart condition under control.
An ultrsound is the only way to see the heart's damage.
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