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  • Janet Somers
    I had a consultation with an internal medicine/cardiology specialist today for Freddie. He said he thinks Freddie s hyperthyroidism can probably be left
    Message 1 of 6 , Oct 22, 2008
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      I had a consultation with an internal medicine/cardiology specialist
      today for Freddie. He said he thinks Freddie's hyperthyroidism can
      probably be left untreated because it's so mild, and he hypothesizes
      that the HCM was not caused by the hyper-T at all but rather is
      idiopathic. (This may or may not be true and would be impossible to
      determine without curing the hyper-T, which is impossible to do fully
      in Freddie's case because his kidneys crash.)

      Anyway, the bottom line is I'm not treating the hyper-T for the next
      week (stopping the methimazole) and he has suggested giving Plavix,
      1/2 pill per day, to prevent clots.

      I looked up Plavix and it scared me because of the potential for fatal
      bleeding ulcers (there are also apparently lawsuits going on for heart
      attacks caused by Plavix). Freddie had a severe GI issue a few months
      ago (since resolved) that included some intestinal bleeding, as
      evidenced by him vomiting pink-tinged fluid. He was put on ulcer
      medication then (carafate). So I'm very scared to give him Plavix.
      (The vet hinted at the GI issues and waffled on the prescription,
      giving me the choice, but I was unaware of these side effects then.)
      Freddie has also been Dx'd as IBD because of an ultrasound showing
      mild sbdominal wall thickening and an enlarged lymph node, but he has
      had no GI symptoms at all for months, and I'd like to keep it that
      way. Still, I'm very afraid of a clot...

      Is anyone's cat on Plavix? Any experiences, good or bad, advice, info?

      Thanks.

      Janet and Freddie
    • water glow
      Janet, I briefly put my cat on Plavix (per my vet) because she was deemed at risk for clotting. My cat began acting strange, spaced out, eyes extra dialated.
      Message 2 of 6 , Oct 22, 2008
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        Janet, I briefly put my cat on Plavix (per my vet) because she was deemed at risk for clotting. My cat began acting strange, spaced out, eyes extra dialated. I wasn't feeling good about the side effects so I searched for other options and was told about Nattokinase 75mg per day to prevent clotting. Not much research on cats but there are some studies on humans, it is widely used in Japan. Good results from those I've heard using it on this site and others. So far so good with my cat.
        Good luck!
        Amy

        --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Janet Somers <janetsomers21@...> wrote:

        From: Janet Somers <janetsomers21@...>
        Subject: [FH] experiences with Plavix?
        To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 10:15 PM






        I had a consultation with an internal medicine/cardiology specialist
        today for Freddie. He said he thinks Freddie's hyperthyroidism can
        probably be left untreated because it's so mild, and he hypothesizes
        that the HCM was not caused by the hyper-T at all but rather is
        idiopathic. (This may or may not be true and would be impossible to
        determine without curing the hyper-T, which is impossible to do fully
        in Freddie's case because his kidneys crash.)

        Anyway, the bottom line is I'm not treating the hyper-T for the next
        week (stopping the methimazole) and he has suggested giving Plavix,
        1/2 pill per day, to prevent clots.

        I looked up Plavix and it scared me because of the potential for fatal
        bleeding ulcers (there are also apparently lawsuits going on for heart
        attacks caused by Plavix). Freddie had a severe GI issue a few months
        ago (since resolved) that included some intestinal bleeding, as
        evidenced by him vomiting pink-tinged fluid. He was put on ulcer
        medication then (carafate). So I'm very scared to give him Plavix.
        (The vet hinted at the GI issues and waffled on the prescription,
        giving me the choice, but I was unaware of these side effects then.)
        Freddie has also been Dx'd as IBD because of an ultrasound showing
        mild sbdominal wall thickening and an enlarged lymph node, but he has
        had no GI symptoms at all for months, and I'd like to keep it that
        way. Still, I'm very afraid of a clot...

        Is anyone's cat on Plavix? Any experiences, good or bad, advice, info?

        Thanks.

        Janet and Freddie


















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      • nala nala
        Janet and Freddie, 1/2 tab seems like a very high dose. The usual feline dose is 1/4 tab - which was 18.75 mg. My cat had no problems with Plavix - she took it
        Message 3 of 6 , Oct 23, 2008
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          Janet and Freddie,

          1/2 tab seems like a very high dose. The usual feline dose
          is 1/4 tab - which was 18.75 mg. My cat had no problems with Plavix - she took it for about 18 months, but some cats do have tummy upset.

          My cat took her Plavix shortly after eating, this may have contributed
          to the success we had with the drug. I have posted in the past
          some info about Plavix from the study done by Dr. Hogan at Purdue.

          Best,

          Nala
        • Gina Fayne
          SweetPete has been on Plavix since June without any problems. He takes one quarter tablet a day in the morning with his atenolol, enalapril and tapazole. I
          Message 4 of 6 , Oct 23, 2008
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            SweetPete has been on Plavix since June without any problems. He takes one quarter tablet a day in the morning with his atenolol, enalapril and tapazole. I crush all his pills and mix them with !/2 teaspoon of wet food (works best with a pate) and Pete gobbles it right down. I just got all his blood work back. If he didn't have a crummy heart, he would be the healthiest cat on the block.


            --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Janet Somers <janetsomers21@...> wrote:

            > From: Janet Somers <janetsomers21@...>
            > Subject: [FH] experiences with Plavix?
            > To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
            > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 1:15 AM
            > I had a consultation with an internal medicine/cardiology
            > specialist
            > today for Freddie. He said he thinks Freddie's
            > hyperthyroidism can
            > probably be left untreated because it's so mild, and he
            > hypothesizes
            > that the HCM was not caused by the hyper-T at all but
            > rather is
            > idiopathic. (This may or may not be true and would be
            > impossible to
            > determine without curing the hyper-T, which is impossible
            > to do fully
            > in Freddie's case because his kidneys crash.)
            >
            > Anyway, the bottom line is I'm not treating the hyper-T
            > for the next
            > week (stopping the methimazole) and he has suggested giving
            > Plavix,
            > 1/2 pill per day, to prevent clots.
            >
            > I looked up Plavix and it scared me because of the
            > potential for fatal
            > bleeding ulcers (there are also apparently lawsuits going
            > on for heart
            > attacks caused by Plavix). Freddie had a severe GI issue a
            > few months
            > ago (since resolved) that included some intestinal
            > bleeding, as
            > evidenced by him vomiting pink-tinged fluid. He was put on
            > ulcer
            > medication then (carafate). So I'm very scared to give
            > him Plavix.
            > (The vet hinted at the GI issues and waffled on the
            > prescription,
            > giving me the choice, but I was unaware of these side
            > effects then.)
            > Freddie has also been Dx'd as IBD because of an
            > ultrasound showing
            > mild sbdominal wall thickening and an enlarged lymph node,
            > but he has
            > had no GI symptoms at all for months, and I'd like to
            > keep it that
            > way. Still, I'm very afraid of a clot...
            >
            > Is anyone's cat on Plavix? Any experiences, good or
            > bad, advice, info?
            >
            > Thanks.
            >
            > Janet and Freddie
          • Kathy Wood
            1/2 tab does sound like alot. i think the standard is 1/4 as nala said. again, my sangie is doing amazingly well on heparin (or called fragmin). it s
            Message 5 of 6 , Oct 23, 2008
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              1/2 tab does sound like alot. i think the standard is 1/4 as nala
              said. again, my sangie is doing amazingly well on heparin (or called
              fragmin). it's injectable so i know she's getting it. she used to
              throw up from time to time & it was always scary not knowing if the
              plavix was not in her system. heparin has been tested on cats so i feel
              pretty comfortable w/the drug.


              nala nala wrote:

              > Janet and Freddie,
              >
              > 1/2 tab seems like a very high dose. The usual feline dose
              > is 1/4 tab - which was 18.75 mg. My cat had no problems with Plavix -
              > she took it for about 18 months, but some cats do have tummy upset.
              >
              > My cat took her Plavix shortly after eating, this may have contributed
              > to the success we had with the drug. I have posted in the past
              > some info about Plavix from the study done by Dr. Hogan at Purdue.
              >
              > Best,
              >
              > Nala
              >
              >
            • nala nala
              I will add that prior to my cat taking the plavix, her platelet count was always adequate because the platelet stuck together and were not countable. Once
              Message 6 of 6 , Oct 23, 2008
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                I will add that prior to my cat taking the plavix,
                her platelet count was always "adequate" because the
                platelet stuck together and were not countable. Once
                she started taking plavix, we actually got platelet counts
                suggesting they were less "sticky" so my assumption is that
                the drug was working as intended for my cat.

                Several people here, like Kathy have used lovenox (a low
                molecular weight heparin injectable). It is expensive and
                some vets are uncomfortable with having clients give injections
                for example my vet wouldn't prescribe injectables, whereas my
                cat's cardiologist would.

                Best,

                Nala
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