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  • kushii59
    Hi! I am new to this group. In January of 2008, life as I knew it ended. My much beloved sphynx was abruptly taken from me at the age of 5 yrs. Much too
    Message 1 of 8 , Aug 1 5:13 AM
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      Hi!
      I am new to this group. In January of 2008, life as I knew it
      ended. My much beloved sphynx was abruptly taken from me at the age
      of 5 yrs. Much too young. He was just a wonderful little baby.
      My daughter was home on Christmas break from college. I came home
      from work, and she said she smelled 'poop'. Well, even with 5 cats,
      this is not a common smell in our house. So, I sent her down to the
      litterboxes to see if there was a fresh 'deposit'. She fantically
      called to come quickly to the family room. My husband and I rushed
      down the stairs and there was Giles. He was paralyzed in the hind
      legs. He had vomited, peed and pooped. He was trying to crawl away
      from his 'mess'.
      Poor baby.......
      I immediately scooped him up in a soft blanket, called the vet and
      off we raced. He purred and smooshed me the whole time.
      They made him comfortable with meds. They took a chest xray and
      confirmed he had HCM.
      He peacefully died in my arms as I was kissing him and telling him
      how much he is loved and how I am going to miss him, I let him know
      how much love and joy he has given me.
      Oh God, does it get easier? It has been 7 months and I think of him
      often. I miss his little voice. I miss his smell. I miss his
      weight on my lap. I miss so much of him. I miss him.
      I know I have 4 other cats, but I would miss them the same. I can
      tell you, I am enjoying them more. As I have learned, life is too
      short.
      I am in a quandry........I have a full sister different breeding to
      him. I have just had the strength/courage to fully research this
      dz. I am finding that it is genetic. I do not know if she has HCM.
      What do I do about my little girl? I cannot 'cure' her. I do not
      want to prolong her life if it is not a good quality of life. What
      do you suggest? I want what is best for her. God gave me these
      babies to take care of to the best of my abitities. I need
      direction, please!!
      In closing, I have to say that the anquish of finding a much loved
      pet dying never leaves your mind. It was/is awful.
      My heart is just aching.
      Thanks for listening,
      Rose
      Sorry if this is long but I know you guys understand.
    • Carol
      Hi Rose, Your letter of your loss is just heartbreaking. You have my deepest sympathy. I hope you have received many replies with encouragment. When a person
      Message 2 of 8 , Aug 1 7:06 AM
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        Hi Rose,
        Your letter of your loss is just heartbreaking. You have my deepest
        sympathy. I hope you have received many replies with encouragment.
        When a person replies via webpost (which I am doing) it automatically
        goes to the individual and not the list unless you click the dropdown
        and choose the group, so I don't know if you've already received a
        ton of emails.

        We (our cat Mellie and I) are new to the group also, she was just
        diagnosed in early May. My advice is to find the nearest board
        certified cardiologist. I've learned that many vet groups will list
        cardiology in their ads of health problems they treat but that isn't
        to say they have a cardiologist on staff. Makes a big difference.

        We never had any idea Mellie had any heart problems but on 5/6 she
        had 5 seizures. She was immediately rushed to one of the groups we
        have used for acupuncture (Dr.Dave) (regular vet Dr. Steve, was not
        in that day and his group we thought did not have a blood pressure
        cuff but the other group did). She was dx with a heart murmur, grade
        3, which had never been heard before. It was recommended we get her
        in quickly to yet another group for a heart echo and that was done 2
        days later. The vet who did the echo diagnosed her with advanced HCM
        to the extent that both Dr. Dave and Dr. Steve advised we put her to
        sleep as she would not improve - having 5 seizures in a day was
        extremely dangerous and having such advanced HCM gave her no hope of
        improving.

        We don't listen to such advice and I was able to get her in to a
        cardiologist about 3 hrs away but it wasn't until the end of May. She
        had had no more seizures and was slowly coming around. The
        cardiologist said her heart murmur was a grade 2 and she did not have
        HCM but instead had a form of cardiomyopathy without hypertrophy, and
        her main problem was her heart rate was at 227 (way too fast) which
        was causing her mitral valve to be pulled down and sucked over thus
        blocking partially the outflow of blood via the aorta such that her
        body was not getting enough blood. Atenolol was prescribed and her
        heart rate has slowed to 135.

        A month later we saw a neurologist for evaluation. He feels her
        seizures were caused by poor blood flow to the brain. She probably
        has had small strokes or perhaps a birth defect, or yes, perhaps a
        tumor, which had never caused a problem until the lack of proper
        blood flow and then the problem was unmasked. She still has had no
        more seizures and neuro. feels it is likely she never will as her
        blood flow has improved so much. If it is a tumor, then she will
        start having more problems but since she is improving he doubts it is
        a tumor.

        So, please try to find a cardiologist to evaluate your beloved's
        sibling(s). I am so sorry for your loss.

        hugs, Carol and Mellie



        --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "kushii59" <kushii59@...> wrote:
        >
        > Hi!
        > I am new to this group. In January of 2008, life as I knew it
        > ended. My much beloved sphynx was abruptly taken from me at the
        age
        > of 5 yrs. Much too young. He was just a wonderful little baby.
        > My daughter was home on Christmas break from college. I came home
        > from work, and she said she smelled 'poop'. Well, even with 5
        cats,
        > this is not a common smell in our house. So, I sent her down to
        the
        > litterboxes to see if there was a fresh 'deposit'. She fantically
        > called to come quickly to the family room. My husband and I rushed
        > down the stairs and there was Giles. He was paralyzed in the hind
        > legs. He had vomited, peed and pooped. He was trying to crawl
        away
        > from his 'mess'.
        > Poor baby.......
        > I immediately scooped him up in a soft blanket, called the vet and
        > off we raced. He purred and smooshed me the whole time.
        > They made him comfortable with meds. They took a chest xray and
        > confirmed he had HCM.
        > He peacefully died in my arms as I was kissing him and telling him
        > how much he is loved and how I am going to miss him, I let him know
        > how much love and joy he has given me.
        > Oh God, does it get easier? It has been 7 months and I think of
        him
        > often. I miss his little voice. I miss his smell. I miss his
        > weight on my lap. I miss so much of him. I miss him.
        > I know I have 4 other cats, but I would miss them the same. I can
        > tell you, I am enjoying them more. As I have learned, life is too
        > short.
        > I am in a quandry........I have a full sister different breeding to
        > him. I have just had the strength/courage to fully research this
        > dz. I am finding that it is genetic. I do not know if she has
        HCM.
        > What do I do about my little girl? I cannot 'cure' her. I do not
        > want to prolong her life if it is not a good quality of life. What
        > do you suggest? I want what is best for her. God gave me these
        > babies to take care of to the best of my abitities. I need
        > direction, please!!
        > In closing, I have to say that the anquish of finding a much loved
        > pet dying never leaves your mind. It was/is awful.
        > My heart is just aching.
        > Thanks for listening,
        > Rose
        > Sorry if this is long but I know you guys understand.
        >
      • Sue B
        Rose, I am so sorry about your loss. Especially to have them go so suddenly - you don t get a chance to prepare. I agree with Carol that you need to find a
        Message 3 of 8 , Aug 1 8:10 AM
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          Rose,

          I am so sorry about your loss. Especially to have them go so suddenly - you
          don't get a chance to prepare.

          I agree with Carol that you need to find a cardiologist. There is a list of
          them here - http://www.acvim.org/index.aspx?id=86

          With the help of my cardiologist and this group, my sweet girl Pepper lived
          way beyond her 2-10 month prognosis. In fact, she did very well until about
          3 days before she passed - 2-1/2 years after her diagnosis. I believe she
          would have lived longer except that the vet who originally realized she had
          heart disease (at the emergency clinic) refused to tell me that was what her
          problem was and it went untreated for another six months until the next
          crisis.

          First, you need to diagnose the whether or not she has heart disease and the
          *only* way to do that is with an echocardiogram (ECG) - also called an
          ultrasound or sonogram of the heart. If she does have it, then the most
          important things are to get her on medication, give her a high-quality
          meat-based diet (little or no carbohydrates - including both grains &
          vegetables) and add supplements. The most important supplement - and you
          may way to give it to her "just in case" - is CoQ10. It can be a bit
          expensive but definitely worth-while as it will help many aspects of her
          health. One caution - if you do get her on CoQ10 and decide to stop, you
          must gradually reduce the dose since an abrupt stop is not good for the
          system.

          Please post with any questions you might have and a big hug to you & your
          family! The pain will fade but you'll always remember your special boy!


          Sue & angel Pepper



          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "kushii59" <kushii59@...>
          To: <feline-heart@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:13 AM
          Subject: [FH] Glad I found you guys


          > Hi!
          > I am in a quandry........I have a full sister different breeding to
          > him. I have just had the strength/courage to fully research this
          > dz. I am finding that it is genetic. I do not know if she has HCM.
          > What do I do about my little girl? I cannot 'cure' her. I do not
          > want to prolong her life if it is not a good quality of life. What
          > do you suggest? I want what is best for her. God gave me these
          > babies to take care of to the best of my abitities. I need
          > direction, please!!
          > In closing, I have to say that the anquish of finding a much loved
          > pet dying never leaves your mind. It was/is awful.
          > My heart is just aching.
          > Thanks for listening,
          > Rose
          > Sorry if this is long but I know you guys understand.
          >
          >
        • Sue B
          p.s. be sure to check the information in the Yahoo group. Specifically, there s a list of questions for your first visit to the cardiologist in the Files
          Message 4 of 8 , Aug 1 8:12 AM
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            p.s. be sure to check the information in the Yahoo group. Specifically,
            there's a list of questions for your first visit to the cardiologist in the
            Files section at http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/files/


            Sue
          • Carol
            A p.s. from me too: When Mellie was (mis)diagnosed initially by the local vet who did the echo we had spent $300 for that echo... The cardiologist asked if the
            Message 5 of 8 , Aug 1 8:27 AM
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              A p.s. from me too:

              When Mellie was (mis)diagnosed initially by the local vet who did the
              echo we had spent $300 for that echo... The cardiologist asked if the
              echo was performed by a radiologist or a cardiologist. Since it was not
              a specialist who did it, the cardiologist did his own echo. We should
              have gone to the specialist immediately as we would have saved a bit of
              money in the long run and Mellie would have started treatment sooner.
              The reason we didn't go immediately was that the local vet said we
              would spend tons of money for the same outcome: she would not survive.

              Every month with her is a blessing for us and next week will be 3 extra
              months. Yea!!

              Carol and Mellie




              --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, Sue B <susan@...> wrote:
              >
              > p.s. be sure to check the information in the Yahoo group.
              Specifically,
              > there's a list of questions for your first visit to the cardiologist
              in the
              > Files section at http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-
              heart/files/
              >
              >
              > Sue
              >
            • Gina Fayne
              Please accept my condolences on the loss of your little one.  The shock of that kind of unexpected death can be overwhelming. It is very important that you
              Message 6 of 8 , Aug 1 9:34 AM
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                Please accept my condolences on the loss of your little one.  The shock of that kind of unexpected death can be overwhelming.
                It is very important that you take his sister to a board certified cardilogist.  Remember that she has a 50% chance of NOT having this disease.  But either way, in the long run, it is better to know what is going on. 
                My little guy was diagnosed 6 weeks ago while looking for a totally different problem.  I understand that knowing he has and treating him for HCM will not change the final outcome, but I am hopeful to have some extra quality

                --- On Fri, 8/1/08, kushii59 <kushii59@...> wrote:

                From: kushii59 <kushii59@...>
                Subject: [FH] Glad I found you guys
                To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 8:13 AM






                Hi!
                I am new to this group. In January of 2008, life as I knew it
                ended. My much beloved sphynx was abruptly taken from me at the age
                of 5 yrs. Much too young. He was just a wonderful little baby.
                My daughter was home on Christmas break from college. I came home
                from work, and she said she smelled 'poop'. Well, even with 5 cats,
                this is not a common smell in our house. So, I sent her down to the
                litterboxes to see if there was a fresh 'deposit'. She fantically
                called to come quickly to the family room. My husband and I rushed
                down the stairs and there was Giles. He was paralyzed in the hind
                legs. He had vomited, peed and pooped. He was trying to crawl away
                from his 'mess'.
                Poor baby.......
                I immediately scooped him up in a soft blanket, called the vet and
                off we raced. He purred and smooshed me the whole time.
                They made him comfortable with meds. They took a chest xray and
                confirmed he had HCM.
                He peacefully died in my arms as I was kissing him and telling him
                how much he is loved and how I am going to miss him, I let him know
                how much love and joy he has given me.
                Oh God, does it get easier? It has been 7 months and I think of him
                often. I miss his little voice. I miss his smell. I miss his
                weight on my lap. I miss so much of him. I miss him.
                I know I have 4 other cats, but I would miss them the same. I can
                tell you, I am enjoying them more. As I have learned, life is too
                short.
                I am in a quandry..... ...I have a full sister different breeding to
                him. I have just had the strength/courage to fully research this
                dz. I am finding that it is genetic. I do not know if she has HCM.
                What do I do about my little girl? I cannot 'cure' her. I do not
                want to prolong her life if it is not a good quality of life. What
                do you suggest? I want what is best for her. God gave me these
                babies to take care of to the best of my abitities. I need
                direction, please!!
                In closing, I have to say that the anquish of finding a much loved
                pet dying never leaves your mind. It was/is awful.
                My heart is just aching.
                Thanks for listening,
                Rose
                Sorry if this is long but I know you guys understand.


















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              • Gina Fayne
                Please accept my condolences on the loss of your little one.  The shock of that kind of unexpected death can be overwhelming. It is very important that you
                Message 7 of 8 , Aug 1 9:37 AM
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                  Please accept my condolences on the loss of your little one.  The shock of that kind of unexpected death can be overwhelming.
                  It is very important that you take his sister to a board certified cardilogist.  Remember that she has a 50% chance of NOT having this disease.  But either way, in the long run, it is better to know what is going on. 
                  My little guy was diagnosed 6 weeks ago while looking for a totally different problem.  I understand that knowing he has and treating him for HCM will not change the final outcome, but I am hopeful to have some extra quality time with Pete or at least make his life more comfortable.  Please don't let fear keep you from getting the information you need.

                  --- On Fri, 8/1/08, kushii59 <kushii59@...> wrote:

                  From: kushii59 <kushii59@...>
                  Subject: [FH] Glad I found you guys
                  To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 8:13 AM






                  Hi!
                  I am new to this group. In January of 2008, life as I knew it
                  ended. My much beloved sphynx was abruptly taken from me at the age
                  of 5 yrs. Much too young. He was just a wonderful little baby.
                  My daughter was home on Christmas break from college. I came home
                  from work, and she said she smelled 'poop'. Well, even with 5 cats,
                  this is not a common smell in our house. So, I sent her down to the
                  litterboxes to see if there was a fresh 'deposit'. She fantically
                  called to come quickly to the family room. My husband and I rushed
                  down the stairs and there was Giles. He was paralyzed in the hind
                  legs. He had vomited, peed and pooped. He was trying to crawl away
                  from his 'mess'.
                  Poor baby.......
                  I immediately scooped him up in a soft blanket, called the vet and
                  off we raced. He purred and smooshed me the whole time.
                  They made him comfortable with meds. They took a chest xray and
                  confirmed he had HCM.
                  He peacefully died in my arms as I was kissing him and telling him
                  how much he is loved and how I am going to miss him, I let him know
                  how much love and joy he has given me.
                  Oh God, does it get easier? It has been 7 months and I think of him
                  often. I miss his little voice. I miss his smell. I miss his
                  weight on my lap. I miss so much of him. I miss him.
                  I know I have 4 other cats, but I would miss them the same. I can
                  tell you, I am enjoying them more. As I have learned, life is too
                  short.
                  I am in a quandry..... ...I have a full sister different breeding to
                  him. I have just had the strength/courage to fully research this
                  dz. I am finding that it is genetic. I do not know if she has HCM.
                  What do I do about my little girl? I cannot 'cure' her. I do not
                  want to prolong her life if it is not a good quality of life. What
                  do you suggest? I want what is best for her. God gave me these
                  babies to take care of to the best of my abitities. I need
                  direction, please!!
                  In closing, I have to say that the anquish of finding a much loved
                  pet dying never leaves your mind. It was/is awful.
                  My heart is just aching.
                  Thanks for listening,
                  Rose
                  Sorry if this is long but I know you guys understand.


















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                • lorkatz2004
                  ... I am so sorry for the loss of Giles......it is never easy to lose a soul cat. The use of supplements greatly increase the quality of life for our heart
                  Message 8 of 8 , Aug 1 1:12 PM
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                    I am so sorry for the loss of Giles......it is never easy to lose a
                    soul cat.

                    The use of supplements greatly increase the quality of life for our
                    heart cats. You can avoid clots by using nattokinase 50mg and
                    coenzyme 30mg will help improve the heart.

                    Think about giving them a try.........

                    Good luck
                    Cathy






                    In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, Gina Fayne <smudgepooka@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Please accept my condolences on the loss of your little one. The
                    shock of that kind of unexpected death can be overwhelming.
                    > It is very important that you take his sister to a board certified
                    cardilogist. Remember that she has a 50% chance of NOT having this
                    disease. But either way, in the long run, it is better to know what
                    is going on.
                    > My little guy was diagnosed 6 weeks ago while looking for a totally
                    different problem. I understand that knowing he has and treating him
                    for HCM will not change the final outcome, but I am hopeful to have
                    some extra quality time with Pete or at least make his life more
                    comfortable. Please don't let fear keep you from getting the
                    information you need.
                    >
                    > --- On Fri, 8/1/08, kushii59 <kushii59@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > From: kushii59 <kushii59@...>
                    > Subject: [FH] Glad I found you guys
                    > To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
                    > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 8:13 AM
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Hi!
                    > I am new to this group. In January of 2008, life as I knew it
                    > ended. My much beloved sphynx was abruptly taken from me at the age
                    > of 5 yrs. Much too young. He was just a wonderful little baby.
                    > My daughter was home on Christmas break from college. I came home
                    > from work, and she said she smelled 'poop'. Well, even with 5 cats,
                    > this is not a common smell in our house. So, I sent her down to the
                    > litterboxes to see if there was a fresh 'deposit'. She fantically
                    > called to come quickly to the family room. My husband and I rushed
                    > down the stairs and there was Giles. He was paralyzed in the hind
                    > legs. He had vomited, peed and pooped. He was trying to crawl away
                    > from his 'mess'.
                    > Poor baby.......
                    > I immediately scooped him up in a soft blanket, called the vet and
                    > off we raced. He purred and smooshed me the whole time.
                    > They made him comfortable with meds. They took a chest xray and
                    > confirmed he had HCM.
                    > He peacefully died in my arms as I was kissing him and telling him
                    > how much he is loved and how I am going to miss him, I let him know
                    > how much love and joy he has given me.
                    > Oh God, does it get easier? It has been 7 months and I think of him
                    > often. I miss his little voice. I miss his smell. I miss his
                    > weight on my lap. I miss so much of him. I miss him.
                    > I know I have 4 other cats, but I would miss them the same. I can
                    > tell you, I am enjoying them more. As I have learned, life is too
                    > short.
                    > I am in a quandry..... ...I have a full sister different breeding to
                    > him. I have just had the strength/courage to fully research this
                    > dz. I am finding that it is genetic. I do not know if she has HCM.
                    > What do I do about my little girl? I cannot 'cure' her. I do not
                    > want to prolong her life if it is not a good quality of life. What
                    > do you suggest? I want what is best for her. God gave me these
                    > babies to take care of to the best of my abitities. I need
                    > direction, please!!
                    > In closing, I have to say that the anquish of finding a much loved
                    > pet dying never leaves your mind. It was/is awful.
                    > My heart is just aching.
                    > Thanks for listening,
                    > Rose
                    > Sorry if this is long but I know you guys understand.
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