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Missi aged 9 - blood clot - is this likely to be heart related??

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  • Kim Gregory
    Hi all - I m new, please forgive me for jumping in right away but I need advice please. My Missi is 9 and aside from having bronchitis appeared perfectly well
    Message 1 of 4 , Nov 30, 2007
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      Hi all - I'm new, please forgive me for jumping in right away but I
      need advice please.

      My Missi is 9 and aside from having bronchitis appeared perfectly
      well this morning but then about 3pm UK time she suddenly came
      dragging her hindlegs to see me. her legs appeared to be giving her
      pain and she was very distressed breathing hard and looking really
      scared.

      I knew enough from being on feline health lists to know that this was
      serious and could be a clot so I got her to the nearest vet as soon
      as I could. Vet not our usual wasnt at all hopeful but said she
      would try. Missi was hospitalised on pain meds, heparin and lasix for
      fluids in her chest??

      Vet called back at 6.30pm and said that she is encouraged that Missi
      is responding to treatment and had at that time begun to get some
      feeling back in one of her back legs. I left her there as I thought
      it best not to move her right now.

      I'm worried tho - vet has dismissed info I had sent from a top UK
      feline specialist recommending Plavix - and I am also worried that
      this may be heart related? Vet said that the fluid build up was due
      to her bronchitis - but beleive me I treat this cat every day and
      swear that her bronchitis was well under control - I'd know wouldnt
      I??

      Vet never mentioned heart??
    • Kim Gregory
      Thank you all for your help and advice - those who know me from elsewhere will know that I do genuinely appreciate all this and WILL listen. Vet this morning
      Message 2 of 4 , Dec 1, 2007
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        Thank you all for your help and advice - those who know me from elsewhere will know that I do genuinely appreciate all this and WILL listen.

        Vet this morning rang to say Missi was responding better than she could imagine (hmpf well yesterday she said there was no hope!) and had regained some feeling in both back legs tho they were still far from perfect and were a little cold. By 11.30 am when we were allowed to see her both back legs were warm and she was able to sit up and tried to get to see us.

        Vet and nurses are very pleased with her and say she is showing improvement at a remarkable rate but that of course I must realise this IS serious - well dont I know that, my Mum died frm a blood clot :-(

        Missi is VERY unhappy there and isnt eating, drinking or weeing - well typical oriental! *I* remained worried - well that IS my job lol. I know too that if the not eating and drinking continue this in itself will become a serious issue! Vet is dismissing the heart link and from saying yesterday that it must have been her bronchitits cos fluid doesnt just appear suddenly - to saying today that it DOES build up suddenly!! So I am baffled - as I often am!

        So can I ask...... can I wait til Monday when we can (hopefully!!) go to our normal vet to ask for a referral - they know me and know my committment to my cats and they know that I WILL get feline specialists on board and I will ask for referrals? I mean is it URGENT enough that I should try to pull her from there? Or can it wait beign that she is on heparin still and Lasix - has had bloods and more x-rays this morning which show the fluid on the lungs is cleared.

        Many thanks to all you kind people who have responded.



        Kim and the assorted fur-kids (UK)
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      • Kim Gregory
        Thanks Katy - I can tell you arent in the UK ;-) Vets here arent used to demanding owners - some of them get very upset and put out, we have to tread very
        Message 3 of 4 , Dec 1, 2007
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          Thanks Katy - I can tell you arent in the UK ;-) Vets here arent used to demanding owners - some of them get very upset and put out, we have to tread very carefully - its doubly difficult too that this is not my usual practice - there they know me and know that I want the absolute best for my cats and *will* call in feline specialists and ask for referrals - so they would be more likely to give me that referral. *They* I would think would listen to the feline specialists recommendations re regime and drugs -because they know I go to the top and use every bit of influence I can to help my fur-babes - they wouldnt be in a huff about it cos they are used to this. Its one of the reasons I go there - they listen - um mostly!

          The vet she is at is kinda like an emergency vet but not in the way you guys are used to - this is just the nearest vet to us and i went there cos I needed to get to a vet fast - I should explain this is NOT usually done in the UK - if you have an emergency you go to your own vet still - if its out of hours then you might get a specialist on-call vet to come out but its still all done under your own vet.

          So what I have done is a little unusual and in some ways it does put us in a difficult posisiton - I can ask for a cardio referral cos they are not my vet - they dont have one there and neither would my vet - they are not there 24/7 and neither would my vet be - so it was a tough act of balancing - this vet is 5 mins frm my door the other vet is a 25 min drive away - she is responding well to the treatment and they seem pretty good on most points and they are willing to assist feed her - indeed they have done so and she will get this through the night 2 hourly. I am just a little reluctant to move her in case I set back her progress and plus it being the weekend there is not a lot I can do - they are technically closed

          I am certain I can get a referral on Monday when I can get access to my own vet practice. I hope this explains a little

          Kim and the assorted fur-kids (UK)
          An expert opinion is just that - an opinion, trust your own instincts




          why are the keeping her still? could you bring her home? i think missi will eat, drink and go potty if she is at home. is there someone with her 24 hours? they wanted to keep belle once (not her normal vet- she had a pout of flutd and i wanted to get her some subqs to help her flush her kidneys but there was a snow storm so we went to the closest open 24 hour hospital and once they knew she had HCM they wanted to do IV fluids instead and for that she needed to stay. i know belle and she would have FREAKED more than she was without me there so i said only if you have a cot for me. i took her home and got subqs at her regular vet in the morning.
          >^..^<
          katy

          i still would have her heart checked. i am not understanding why this vet wont give you a referral if you want it. maybe you should say something like "i understand that you dont feel missi's problem is heart related but having lost my mom to a blood clot it would set my mind at ease to know for sure her heart is ok". i lost my younger brother (33 years old) a few years ago to undiagnosed HCM and a few months later belle was diagnosed with HCM so i was a basket case (some days i still am)


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        • nala nala
          Kim, Many kitties here have managed to survive a clot, and as you asked earlier many, but not all clots are heart related. I am sure that others have suggested
          Message 4 of 4 , Dec 2, 2007
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            Kim,

            Many kitties here have managed to survive a clot, and
            as you asked earlier many, but not all clots are heart
            related.

            I am sure that others have suggested that an
            ultrasound
            of the heart might be in order and that kitties that
            have already experienced a clot are at risk for more
            clots.

            Unfortunately, by the time you read this it will be
            late in the evening, so you will have already decided
            whether to transfer her. I would let the vets advise
            you as to whether or not Missi is stable enough to
            go. I transferred my Cozette from a 24 hour vet
            to a specialty clinic which required a referral. The
            24 hr vet was happy to arrange the referral.

            One thing about the not urinating - when my cat
            was hospitalized she didn't urinate either - until
            a small litter box was placed in her chamber.
            With the lasix she is getting she should be
            urinating, even if she is not drinking.

            When I visited Cozette, they let me take her
            into an exam room and I let her drink out
            of the faucet in the exam room. She drank
            and drank and drank. She also drank when she saw me
            put fresh water in her bowl from the faucet near
            her chamber.

            My Cozette also did a poor job of
            eating while hospitalized (and prior to
            hospitalization). I was able to get her to eat small
            amounts
            of food by hand/finger feeding her. She only
            ate for me 2x in 5 days of hospital. I
            was most successful getting her to eat when she
            was in the exam room compared to when she was in
            her chamber. I tried many different foods as well.
            The clinic had a large range of kibble, wet and
            babyfood on hand.

            Hope this is some use, and in my experience, fluid
            can appear quite suddenly in the lungs. It will have
            a cause, but if the cause hasn't been previously
            diagnosed,
            it will seem "sudden."

            Nala


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