Re: [FH] Wellness, Felidae or EVO????????
- Hi Amanda,
In a message dated 5/1/07 4:43:40 PM, justinamanda@... writes:
> ItIf he has an extra-sensitive digestive system, then introducing new foods
> is not as easy for me to rotate Griffin's food choices because of his
> super sensitive digestive system.
very slowly becomes important. Even at that, there are some cats who cannot
tolerate a change of ingredients (for various reasons) and do better sticking with
few protein sources.
> I keep hearing that a grain free diet is soGrain contains a lot of carbohydrate, which is a risk for various health
problems. Grain proteins are also a risk factor for "allergic" reactions. So grain
is one ingredient to try to avoid or limit.
> I think I am set on the Wellness,Well, a lot of companies have acted very badly in response to the recall. And
> only to hear that it is made by Menu and to also hear of their
> continual evasiveness.
companies that did behave responsibly, such as Natural Balance, also have
contaminated food. So corporate behavior is one factor to incl in our decisions
about food...but only you can decide how much it influences your choice in
relation to other factors.
A lot of foods are/were made by Menu. So far, the recall is focused on grain
contamination. If the food doesn't contain grain, is the food safe? Even if
the label says it doesn't contain grain, do we know there is no grain in it? And
even if the food is not made by Menu, do we know it's safe? Natural Balance
venison and pea was a grainfree food not made by Menu that turned out to be
> And, then I steer toward Felidae and thatNo, it isn't. But you need to weigh which factors are important to you. If
> sounds great. And, I am told that it is a great balanced food for an
> indoor cat. However it is not a grain free diet.
you cannot tolerate anything made by Menu and like the ingredients in Felidae,
then see if it's right for your cat. I think Felidae is an ok food for one that
contains grains, but I generally rank grainfree foods higher than those with
> So, then I inquireI'm afraid I don't agree with the store owner on that. I don't think a
> about the EVO, and the holistic cat food store owner tells me that it
> is also a great diet.
complex formula with a lot of plant material, incl high-carbohydrate potatoes and
apples, is great for cats. And I also don't think a food with 440mg phosphorus
per 100 calories is great for cats. An average 10 lb cat eating 200 calories of
EVO is getting 880 mg of phosphorus daily, about 2.5x the general
recommendation for that weight. I think a more reasonable phosphorus content is about
> But, it is really high in protein and more fatThat's what Innova's marketing dept wants you to believe, but it's not true.
> content than the others, more like a raw diet.
EVO canned contains 37% calories from protein and 60% from fat. You can find a
number of other canned foods with the same or higher values in those
nutrients. Eg ProPlan canned Turkey has 55% from protein, Fancy Feast Chunky Chicken
Feast has 44%, Nutro Gourmet Seafood has 41%; Fancy Feast Beef & Chicken has
62% calories from fat, Max Cat Chicken and Lamb has 60%, Nature's Variety Rabbit
The only correlation between a "raw diet" and EVO exists in the company's
> But, I think I remember the vet cardiologistAll cats, with very few exceptions, need the same nutrition: a high-quality,
> saying to be careful with too much protein and/or fat in a heart
> kitties diet.
well-balanced, low-carbohydrate, moisture-rich, meat-based diet. No cat should
get "too much" protein or fat. The closer the product comes to the
nutritional profile of a typical prey animal, the better.
> Is it ok that it is not a grain free food?That would depend on whether you want grains in the cat's food or not.
There are grainfree foods not made by Menu, incl By Nature Organics and
Evanger's Organic Turkey. // Rosemary
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- Hi Amanda - I struggled with the same thing. My cats LOVE Felidae canned and although the rice is a downside, I like the other ingredients and its all human grade stuff, plus no association with Menu. I bought a can of Wellness chicken and they loved that too but thats when the recall happened and all this crap with Menu.
Last night I took a look at the ingredients for Evo. I'm not impressed. There arent any different flavors, its like they mushed everything into 1 formula. I dont like all the fish ingredients because I've also got a FLUTD boy and none of that would be good for him. Seaweed, Apples, Salt? Not for a heart kitty or FLUTD kitty IMO.
I would like to switch to Wellness grainfree someday, but until this recall gets more settled, we're sticking with Felidae canned Chicken and Rice. They've been on it since January and I'm (and kitties!) really happy with it.
----- Original Message ----
From: jamander33 <justinamanda@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2007 4:42:33 PM
Subject: [FH] Wellness, Felidae or EVO????????
Hi all, Oh my goodness I am still questioning which food to choose. It
is not as easy for me to rotate Griffin's food choices because of his
super sensitive digestive system. So, I am trying to make a sound
choice and stick to it. I keep hearing that a grain free diet is so
important in this day and age, so I think I am set on the Wellness,
only to hear that it is made by Menu and to also hear of their
continual evasiveness. And, then I steer toward Felidae and that
sounds great. And, I am told that it is a great balanced food for an
indoor cat. However it is not a grain free diet. So, then I inquire
about the EVO, and the holistic cat food store owner tells me that it
is also a great diet. But, it is really high in protein and more fat
content than the others, more like a raw diet. Without talking to my
vet, I am not sure. But, I think I remember the vet cardiologist
saying to be careful with too much protein and/or fat in a heart
kitties diet. Am I understanding that correctly? I know there are
members here that use the Felidae. It sounds like that may be the best
one right now. Is it ok that it is not a grain free food? Would the
EVO be too protein rich for a heart kitty? HELP!!! Amanda and Griffin
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