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Re: [FH] Kitten panting

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  • Sara
    Hi Beverly, My Toby with HCM is Persian too. I got him at 12 weeks old and he was diagnosed at 1 yr old (he is almost 5 now), and our breeder too denied that
    Message 1 of 3 , Jan 30, 2007
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      Hi Beverly,

      My Toby with HCM is Persian too. I got him at 12 weeks old and he was diagnosed at 1 yr old (he is almost 5 now), and our breeder too denied that any of her other cats had it. Maybe they did and she didnt tell me, or she didnt know about it if her cats did have it and they didnt show symptoms, or none of her other customers told her about, I will never know. I have read that HCM is more common in Persians though.

      Some extreme faced Persians have sinus issues, but its VERY rare that Persians have trouble breathing and panting because of their flat faces, I'm actually pretty surprised a vet would say that to someone. There are many different spectrums on the 'extreme' faced Persians, and for them to having breathing difficulty because of it, they are usually on the most extreme side - and only then their breathing difficulty is sort of a snorting in their nose, not panting.

      Toby is extreme faced - I posted a couple pics of him in the Photos section on the site. I'm curious how extreme yours is, sorry I dont know his name? Is he more or less extreme than Toby? We havent had any panting with him yet, but he is still asymptomatic.

      I would get an echo done on yours asap. Just listening to the heart alone will not be able to tell much.

      Well its good to "meet" another Persian person! I'm a member of persian-cats.com too and there didnt seem to be anyone there with HCM, which I was surprised since I thought this breed is supposed to be more common with HCM.

      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Beverly Levine <Blevine2@...>
      To: Feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:41:47 PM
      Subject: [FH] Kitten panting

      I want to thank everyone who responded, concerning my kitten that is panting with stress/exercise.
      I did speak with my Vet. today who reminded me that my kitten is a Persian show kitten with a very flat nose, and that perhaps his need for air is greater. Wouldn't that be great if that was the reason!
      Well, I am taking him in soon for them to listen to his heart and lungs and we'll go from there.
      His breeder has offered to take him back, as she thinks I am over reacting. She went on to say that neither his mother or fathers side have any heart conditions nor any of their kittens.
      That too is encouraging....but that goes to show you that breeders don't know the first thing about HCM,unfortunately, like all of you do.
      I intend to have him checked thoroughly...and will certainly get back to you with the results.
      Thanks so very much again....to all of you.
      Hugs to you and your precious kitties...

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    • Cannon,Kimberly
      Cats DO cough with heart issues!!! ... From: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com [mailto:feline-heart@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Beverly Levine Sent: Thursday,
      Message 2 of 3 , Feb 5, 2007
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        Cats DO cough with heart issues!!!

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        From: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com [mailto:feline-heart@yahoogroups.com]On
        Behalf Of Beverly Levine
        Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:55 PM
        To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [FH] Kitten panting

        Hi everyone,

        I took my 9 months old Persian kitty to the cardiologist today....as I have
        told you in past posts...he pants when running around a lot.

        I couldn't have asked for better news. I will quote what the cardio wrote
        "The abnormal rhythm detected by your vet on the ECG was compatible with a
        left anterior fascicular bundle branch block which we can find in normal
        cats. This finding is incidental, and the patient will hopefully never
        develop clinical signs related to this. We have seen these cats progress
        into AV block, thus future ECG's should be done. We have seen HCM develop
        this rhythm, but having this rhythm does not mean your cat will develop HCM.

        The heart is not related to the breathing issues, it is likely his upper
        airway issues, are consistent with the breed. Meaning, because he has such a
        flat pushed in nose. He did say, I had a smart cat who opens his mouth when
        he needs more air..as most cats don't.

        I also asked him about my six year old kitty with a heart murmur. He said
        there was nothing he could give him to stop the progression and therefore
        there was no hurry in having an echo done as he has no symptoms.

        I have another cat that has been coughing lately...and he said...cats don't
        cough with heart issues..but it could be asthma.

        I was so worried about the results of the echo...but I knew, I had to find
        out for sure in case he needed to be put on medication.
        There are no words to describe how relieved I am. I do want to thank you all
        for encouraging me to take him in for the echo...and although the cost was a
        lot ....I just had to know.

        I told him, his name is (Jimmy Choo)..he's a red tabby Persian, that he
        could pant all he needed to and I wasn't going to freak out any more.

        I wonder if anyone has had experience or info that differs from what I was
        told today...about him..or the others.
        Just for the record...the cost was $440 $95 for the consult, 250 for the
        echo, and $95 for the ECG. The best money I have ever spent!

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      • Sue at MAGDRL
        Jennifer, I would be very concerned and it s good that you brought him in. I saw that Leah suggested asthma or allergies. My Pepper had asthma due to food
        Message 3 of 3 , Apr 2, 2007
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          I would be very concerned and it's good that you brought him in. I saw that
          Leah suggested asthma or allergies. My Pepper had asthma due to food
          allergies and compared to her, this doesn't sound like that at all.

          Did they at least take an x-ray? This just sounds so strange. I can't
          think of anything that it could be and hope that it's something simple that
          resolves itself.

          Please let us know what happens.

          Sue & Angel Pepper

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          From: <JAM0467@...>
          To: <feline-heart@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 5:00 PM
          Subject: [FH] Kitten panting

          > Hi, all....as you may remember, we lost our dear Simon boy to his heart
          > disease in December. Earlier this year, we adopted a new little man into
          our family
          > from one of the shelters....Moe. We let my 3-year old daughter pick out
          > kitty she wanted to "mommy"...and Moe was it.
          > He's a great little guy, gray, fairly long fur, pointy face. Allegedly he
          > looks somewhat Turkish Angora, but I don't know much about that breed.
          > Anyway. Early this afternoon I noticed him panting. Puzzled, I watched for
          > little while, and it continued. He was layign down, mouth open, tongue
          > out. Of course, I freaked.
          > He'd been playing with a little craft-y pompom a bit before, so I wondered
          > he was winded or could have swallowed it. But he showed no signs of
          > or distress, he just kept panting.
          > I called my vet and they wanted to see him, so I brought Moe in, and one
          > later...still panting. They determined he had a fever (103.4)...but his
          > and lungs sounded good. (I was most worried about his heart having a
          > murmur....still am worried about his heart, actually.)
          > Currently, Moe remains at the vet for observation.
          > Does anyone have any thoughts on what could be going on? Even when
          > he was still pretty active. He ate this morning (his usual, Fancy Feast)
          > everything else seemed normal. But obviously something is not.
          > Thoughts?
          > Jennifer
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