Re: [FH] Blaze update - input appreciated!
If a CBC was done two weeks ago, I can't see the need to do it again so
soon. Did you ask her which specific tests she needs in the CBC that aren't
included in the mini?
I just had blood drawn yesterday for a CBC for Pepper. The last one was
done 3 months ago and she seems to be having issues so it seems necessary
Norvasc is a calcium-channel blocker. Enalapril is an ace-inhibitor. They
both do the same thing (more or less) in controlling blood pressure.
Enalapril is NOT a diuretic. If she thinks it is, then I would be very
Pepper used to be on atenolol (a beta-blocker) along with the enalapril.
She had a reaction to the atenolol so they discontinued it and she's doing
fine. So it may be ok for Blaze to discontinue one but lowering the other
one seems to be a big change all at once - especially if her heart rate is
already "too high". I'd sure want to have her blood pressure checked within
The amount of lasix Blaze is on is miniscule. Pepper gets 60 mg daily (20mg
TID) although she weighs almost 14 pounds.
I never heard anything about giving natto on an empty stomach. I looked it
up on the Nutricology web site and they say "with or without food". Since
they manufacture the product, they should know.
Do you have a cardiologist or internist in your area? Even though they're
probably more expensive, you would save in the long run with better
experience and treatment.
----- Original Message -----
From: "palacieone" <palacie@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:34 AM
Subject: [FH] Blaze update - input appreciated!
> Hi all,.... We took Blaze in for a recheck a few days ago to the
> internal med vet. She wanted to do another ultrasound but due to
> Blaze being asymptomatic on the score of fluid buildup (and my
> fragile wallet) I declined that. She insisted that she must have
> blood work to which I agreed. I asked her if she could just run a
> mini-panel mainly for kidney function but she said that a full CBC
> must be run. Maybe it's just me but sometimes I get the feeling that
> she just wants to run the bill up. It was only about two weeks
> previously that the last full panel was done. How often do you all
> have the full CBC run for your kitties? Then, she said that she
> wants to see us again in about 2 weeks to see if her creatinine has
> come down. I suppose that she will insist on running another full
> panel. Sigh....
> Anyway, the results showed that Blaze's creatinine had gone up from
> 3.4 to 4.3. Very distressing.... Still a little anemic but not
> enough to treat. Everything else was in normal range. So, due to the
> rise in creatinine, she took Blaze off the enalapril completely and
> had me cut down on the norvasc to 1/4 of a pill a day. Now, all she
> gets is that, plus 1/4 of a 12.5 mg. pill of lasix per day and 1/8
> of a pill of spironolactone twice per day. She felt that all the
> diuretics were what had caused Blaze's creatinine to rise. She still
> gets 50 ml. of subq's a day. Blaze's weight had been down to 5.3 lbs
> and she had gained over 3 ounces since our last visit. She has been
> eating much more heartily on her own but we are still assist-feeding
> her a couple of times a day in order to get all the supplements down
> her as she hates being pilled. She accepts them quite readily mixed
> in with food. I was concerned about taking Blaze off the heart med
> (enalapril) but the vet said that it was just one more diuretic. Do
> you all agree with that? Blaze has been diagnosed with RCM so that's
> a concern, or don't any of the heart meds help that type of
> cardiomyopathy very much? The vet said that her heart had only an
> occasional gallop but that her heart rate was too high.
> Another question: I want to start Blaze on nattokinase but
> everything that I've read about it states that it should be given on
> an empty stomach, preferably with a window of 2 hours on each side.
> I know that I can't get it down her by itself because she really
> fights pilling and I certainly don't want to get her all stressed
> with her bad heart. Do any of you give it 'with' food? Any ideas on
> that score will be appreciated.
> As usual, thanks a million in advance for your input on any of this.