Re: [FH] Monkey update and questions--rutin, CHF, CRF
When a cat collects fluid, there are 3 places it can accumulate - in the
lungs, in the chest cavity, and in the pleural sac. When it collects in the
chest cavity, it's sometimes hard to treat with diuretics so the most
effective alternative is a "chest tap". The vet will insert a needle into
the chest cavity (between the ribs) and draw out the fluid with a syringe.
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From: "Cannon,Kimberly" <kimberly.cannon@...>
To: "protectanimals" <connecting@...>;
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [FH] Monkey update and questions--rutin, CHF, CRF
> What exactly is a chest tap?
- I think its worth a try. Blackie was at deaths door and she made it 2
years no taps but of course she didnt have heart trouble. In the end it
took her life. But it gave me two wonderful yrs with her. I kept her
out of all humidity and cold weather and stress. Anyway when we got to
a point they couldnt get it tapped enough we to made that awful choice.
The rutin is a great thing. I cut mine up in small pieces (3) and gave
it in a treat 3 times a day and she just chewed it up treat and all.
Depends on the cat. Good luck and prayers to you.
Janie Trampster (HCM),Bomer. Cinammon, Jaguar(Fiv)Butterscotch.
My heart Angels Sockster,July05 Socks,Oct 05 Speedy,Sep 99 Mr T.
Jan99 Blackie oct 04 . SillyAug 04 cancer. Snuggles12/ 03 dog
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> You probably already know this...but I'm going to add it anyway forthose who
> don't. It's really important to chase tabs/caps with a bit of foodor water
> so that the pill doesn't get stuck in the esophagus. Using a little(repeat:
> little) butter or oil on the gelcap can also help it slide down.I do know about chasing the pills with food or water, but only thanks
to being on this list! When I think of all those years of pilling
Monkey dry....yikes! In fact, it's because I do know of the need to
chase pills with food or water that I needed the gel cap. I can pill
Monkey pretty easily, so I could easily bing 6 pills down her throat
in no time. But knowing she needs food after each one....that's when
six pills became too complicated. I have a way better chance of
getting her to eat after one gel cap than after each of six pills!
And we have been using oil with the gel caps. Susan suggested
butter, so I used Smart Balance, but Monkey didn't like the Smart
Balance, but seems ok with olive oil.
> > Those of you with experience with CRF and CHF, whatgive
> > would be the specific signs you would use to know it was time to
> > some sub-q's?pinch "standing" or
> The signs caregivers generally use...such as a skin
> oozing back slowly instead of snapping right back or gums beingkind of tacky
> instead of slick and smooth...already indicate about 7%dehydration.
> There's some information about that at "Fluid and Electrolyte
> recommends using weight as the sign...but that would be complicatedfor you by
> fluid retention.Thanks, I'll check out the site. I know she is already partially
dehydrated now, which is so sad, but she pretty much seems to be
herself. I'm kind of stuck between a rock and rock on this....so I
appreciate your sending me the site. I guess I always thought that
if I stopped the sub-q's she would go down much more quickly than she
has, but it's been a week and a day now, and she still seems pretty
>Thanks, Rosemary.....I know I have to come to terms with her dying,
> I'm glad Monkey is still among us. // Rosemary
and in many ways I have prepared myself, but I am scared of HOW she
Meredith with Monkey