Re: Advice needed, playing and the HCM cat.
- I used to worry about that ALL the time with Lillie, but was finally
told by our (probably exasperated by my neurotic worrying about every
little thing) Vet cardiologist: "She's got a heart condition, but she
is NOT AN INVALID" lol! He went on to let me know that cats know when
too much is too much and will rest when they need to. Hope your kitty
will do well.
--- In email@example.com, Lance Trickey <lancetrickey@m...>
> My HCM cat , (Boy) loves to play.-----------------------------------------------
> While I am very careful not to over do it, I am concerned. If my
> playing with him resulted in his heart throwing a clot , i'd never
> forgive myself.
- By the way...I should add that you would gasp with fright if you saw
some of Lillie's acrobatics sometimes. She will FLY up to the top of
the cat tree and JUMP (from the top) to the ground, and repeat this
about five times. It's very good cardiovascular exercise and then she
naps for a while. :)
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "turkishangoraathumanesociety"
> I used to worry about that ALL the time with Lillie, but was finallywhen
> told by our (probably exasperated by my neurotic worrying about every
> little thing) Vet cardiologist: "She's got a heart condition, but she
> is NOT AN INVALID" lol! He went on to let me know that cats know
> too much is too much and will rest when they need to. Hope your kitty
> will do well.
- If my memory serves me from a previous post involving
Jen our resident paramedic, a vet told her that if a
cat is on atenolol, the sympathetic surge one would
expect during fear or I'm guessing here, excitement
would be blocked by the beta-blocker atenolol if the
cat is on a beta-blocker. I am thinking that both fear
and fun result in a higher heart rate and that the
higher heart rate is triggered by the release of
catecholamines. They call it "fight or flight" and
both play fighting with another cat and being scared
by a dog would likely trigger the release of
--- lclarizia@... wrote:
> Hi Lance,__________________________________
> You can't make a relax if it doesn't want to :) I
> worry about over-exertion too as Baby Boy likes to
> play with the kitten and they really go to town
> This is going to sound brutal, but ... if, and may
> it never happen, Boy is going to throw a clot, it's
> likely to happen whether or not you play with him.
> So long as you don't over-do it and keep a careful
> eye on him, let him be as active to the extent he
> can tolerate it.
> But I know what you mean about worrying that you'll
> cause it ... I still freak when Baby Boy and Binx
> play, although I've learned to leave them alone and
> only break it up when they start knocking chairs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lance Trickey <lancetrickey@...>
> To: email@example.com
> Sent: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:38:16 -0400
> Subject: [FH] Advice needed, playing and the HCM
> My HCM cat , (Boy) loves to play.
> I know I really can't stop him from chasing ghosts
> around the house.
> He is, after all, just being a cat.
> He pesters me incessantly to play with him when he's
> feeling good,
> and is well rested.
> While I am very careful not to over do it, I am
> concerned. If my
> playing with him resulted in his heart throwing a
> clot , i'd never
> forgive myself.
Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:
- OK this is human related but surely some vet might be
able to do a feline research project since Bush hasn't
forbidden feline stem cell research. Perhaps Dr. Rush
HEART DISEASE TRIUMPH
By BRAD HAMILTON
A top New York doctor says he's made a revolutionary
breakthrough using stem cells to reverse terminal
heart disease in just a few months.
Dr. Valavanus Subramanian, the chief of cardiovascular
surgery at Lenox Hill Hospital, yesterday awed a
medical conference in New York with a report on his
groundbreaking trial, which was done in Ecuador to
avoid federal and state regulations limiting the use
of fetal stem cells.
"The reason we go offshore is because it's not FDA
approved," said a member of his team.
The development brings new hope to the 5 million
Americans who suffer from congestive heart failure,
although under current law, they'd have to leave the
country to be treated.
The disease is invariably fatal, and can be cured only
by a transplant.
"I believe these are very compelling results," said
Subramanian, one of the world's leading authorities on
heart disease, who led a three-month clinical trial in
which 10 patients were injected with fetal stem cells.
"Heart failure is a terrible malady for which there is
no solution. We felt this was the right time to go
into stem-cell therapy."
The patients, Ecuadorians ranging in age from 44 to
77, showed rapid improvement, gaining strength and
endurance as early as one week after the injections,
After only three months, their hearts were on average
42 percent stronger, he said.
One of the patients, a flower saleswoman who worked
the beaches, was so sick she could barely walk. After
the treatments, she returned to her sales job.
"These people were pretty much in cardiac failure,"
said the doctor, who worked with two Argentine
surgeons, a stem-cell expert from the Ukraine and
other leading doctors.
The stem cells, culled from abortions and ectopic
pregnancies, came from fetuses five to 12 weeks old.
The patients, four men and six women, were given 80
injections directly into their hearts late last year
at the Luis Vernaza Hospital in Guayaquil.
One suffered a mild stroke and had to drop out of the
study, although she made a full recovery, Subramanian
said. Another was dropped for not complying with a
The eight that remained underwent a battery of tests,
including a six-minute walk that measured their speed
The private research firm that oversaw the trial, the
Institute for Regenerative Medicine in Barbados, plans
to do follow-up work with other patients, said project
manager Barnett Suskind.
"It's really exploring a new kind of science, the
impact of which will change the lives of millions of
people," he said.
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