Tomorrow Chief goes to our regular vet to get a urine culture and sensitivity test to see if the Baytril got rid of the infection. I told my hubby to make sure he gets a copy of the test for me.
Debbie: Let me see if I understand your situation correctly:
Chief is a heart kitty under the care of a board certified cardiologist and
being treated accordingly. Yes that is correct Chief also has UTI's and "peeing issues" which
have been traditionally treated with antibiotics and psyche meds, continue
to reoccur and you have opened your mind to research an alternative
approach, rather than subjecting him to more antibiotics. That is also true
You consulted a
homeopathic vet who made recommendations which may "cure" these UTI's once &
for all, but his recommendations go against traditional thinking. You are
confused and looking for answers, options and direction. Yes that is true
You consult a group (FH) who thoroughly understands feline cardiac issues, but only a handful of us truly understand holistic medicine, in hope to get some
direction on what to do. You then get replies that make you feel like an idiot to even consider treating Chief homeopathically. Well no I didn't feel like an idiot, just more confused because the vet I went to (who BTW isn't my regular vet) said just to give him the raw chicken, beef and nothing about adding or preparing it differently.
The third is a classical homeopath which sounds like the modality Debbie's vet well he was just the only vet that did this, he's not my regular vet is
As for what type of vet is best for Chief, that gets trickier because it depends on what you are comfortable with, what you are willing to do and what your ultimate goal is. You absolutely want a cardiologist to diagnose
and make treatment recommendations involving Chief's heart disease. Sounds like you are doing this. Yes and I trust and respect his cardiologist, BTW Chief is only on Atenolol for his heart and nothing else.
For UTI's, symptoms will resolve quickly using antibiotics and it may appear that the infection is cured. But, they often reoccur because the root cause was never corrected. Does this sound like what is happening with Chief? Yes and he his system is already immuned to one antibotic
To confuse things more, within the arena of holistic vets, you have many
different philosophies and treatment modalities. A qualified integrative
vet will use several different healing techniques, including
traditional medicine, to determine what will work best for your individual
situation. This is the type of holistic vet that most of us use because
this approach is easier to incorporate traditional cardiology treatments.
From what Debbie has written so far, I would think an integrative approach
could get to the bottom of both his UTI's and his behavioral issues. An integrative vet might use homeopathy, but probably doesn't use true
classical homeopathy. Confused yet? Definately
classical homeopaths is that they tend to be a little "quirky" and can come off abrasive. Yes this vet certainly does They are often not the best choice for people just beginning their holistic journey unless you have a very open mind.
I'm not saying to stay clear of classical homeopathy (CH) with heart
kitties...just understand what it's all about and make sure your vet has
much previous experience treating heart kitties. I don't think he does but he does practice regular vet stuff
If I ever have a kitty with early HCM, classical homeopathy will probably be my first option, after
being thoroughly evaluated by a cardiologist. My reasoning is that "I" believe CH has the best chance to slow down, and possibly even cure, these early cases. Chief's cardiologist said Chief's heart will never be cured, and it was found out right after he turned 1
Everything Debbie said about this vet makes sense to me. My advice would be
to stick with him if she is comfortable and he knows what he's doing. For
<<he first said that with all the meds Chief is taking he can't fight that
with homeopathic therapy>>
If anything is suppressive to the body, rather than supportive, it will
interfere with classical homeopathic therapy. Sounds like he does not want
to waste his time or her money.
<<we are going to start him on a raw meat diet>>
He probably means a biologically appropriate diet which has raw meat as it's
base. But raw meat alone, does not make a complete diet. He didn't say to add anything other than the Missing Link
I will check this out
This is a
powder that you mix in meat, liver, water and salmon oil. I'm pretty
fanatical about what I feed and the ingredients of the powder met my
<<wean him off the behavior pills>>
These are suppressive and will interfere with classical homeopathy. My
personal experience with behavioral issues is that they can usually be
corrected by lifestyle changes: diet, toxins, exercise, etc. Flower
essences are also be very effective (and safe).
<<start him on taurine supplement>>
My guess is this is more for his heart than the UTI's. I've never
supplemented with taurine, but Mr Pepe ate a ton of heart which is loaded
with natural taurine plus all the other heart-healthy stuff. Are you talking about chicken heart?
<<and a vitamin supplement>>
He's trying to optimize the diet in an attempt to maximize the immune system
and get Chief's body to heal itself.
I will check this out too
Rosemary mentioned NuCat which
is great. My personal new favorite (thanks Michelle) is Dr Goodpet Maximum
absolutely necessary. When Mr Pepe was first diagnosed, he HAD to be on
lasix, enalapril and fragmin which are all chemicals (toxins). So I looked
everything else that went in him to see what other toxins I could eliminate.
I switched him to bottled water, I use filtered water tried to only feed him natural meat (no
antibiotics or hormones) and switched to natural cleaning products.
<<One thing I didn't like, he said he would like to see Chief off the
Atenolol for his heart. But I have seen the difference with and without it
and will stick to what Chief's cardiologist says.>>
Yes, stick with what your cardiologist says...for now. My assumption is
that he really meant, "if we can correct all Chief's underlying problems, he
may not need the Atenolol." To me, this guy sounds like he knows what's
he's doing. If Chief shows steady improvement, he may slowly reduce the
Atenolol to see what happens. I wouldn't do anything unless Chief's cardiologist said so If he wants to drop it right away and doesn't
wean him off slowly...find another vet! Contrary to what allopathic
cardiologists say, The vet has to really know what he is doing and have
experience with the quirks of feline heart disease. And the cat can't have
a bunch of other problems. But it can happen.
<<He does have an different attitude than most vets and he even said that
If he's a true classical homeopath, he will have different attitudes and he
may also be getting constantly attacked for his beliefs.
Deena & Mr Pepe Angel
Who taught me tons about life, love and disease
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