Re: [FH] Asymptomatic?
- --- Sara <sara5266@...> wrote:
> What exactly does asymptomatic mean? I know it
> means "no symptoms", but does it mean the cat doesnt
> act any differently? Or if Toby had an accelerated
> heart beat before he got on Atenolol, but now its in
> the normal range with it, he is still asymptomatic?
> Is a cat that is asymptomatic have a regular
> heartbeat without meds?
> We're going to Tufts on Monday for his 6 mos
> ultrasound. Does someone know of a good reference
> for an easy to understand definition of HCM?
> Sara and Toby
> Toby - 2 yr old Persian, dx 10/03 with obstructive
> HCM, 6.25 mg Atenolol daily, 81 mg aspirin every 4
I believe asymtomatic means that a cat is not in CHF.
By CHF I do not mean obvious to the layperson CHF
(respiratory distress). Vets classify CHF by stages.
For instance I have read a cardiologist (Fox maybe)
that talked about how a vet defines the beginning of
CHF. So I think the answer to your question is that
Toby was and is asymptomatic as he is only on atenolol
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- Sara, these are great questions and ones you should ask during your
echo. Try to read up and see if you can find a good picture of the
inner workings of the feline heart. On the walls of the echo room,
they have paintings of the different areas of a normal heart and
will explain the difference between a normal heart and what they
find with Toby. There may be lots of people in the room, but don't
let it intimidate you...ask away. You're at a teaching institution
and that's their job.
"I believe asymtomatic means that a cat is not in CHF."
Asymptomatic might mean different things. Mr Pepe had his repeat
echo last week. There is no mention of CHF in this report where
before it was listed as "advanced". Since Dr Rush closed the book
on him, I certainly would not think he would be asymptomatic. Do
you know what cardiologist they scheduled you with?
Good luck and let me know how it goes.