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Re: Take Me Through an Echo, Please

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  • Steph Schoff
    Hi, An echocardiogram is generally used without sedation, depending on how stressed the animal is. I believe the fur is always shaved. This is the best test
    Message 1 of 5 , Jan 1, 2004
      Hi,
      An echocardiogram is generally used without sedation, depending on how
      stressed the animal is. I believe the fur is always shaved. This is
      the best test to determine heart function. It works on sound waves
      that record images of the heart. They use a little 'wand' type thing
      which produces the sound waves. They put a type of gel on this also.

      We were always present when Gus was having his echo. It took about 20
      minutes or so. They do take little pictures to read all the
      dimensions, etc.

      It is a painless procedure. Usually there is a technician there to
      help hold your animal. I always stood by Gus' head and tried to relax
      him which was sometimes hard. Yes, they can get stressed out.

      I would recommend keeping the fur they shave off. I did this one of
      the last times and was really glad I did. It's the only big clump of
      fur we have from our boy.

      Don't be afraid to ask questions and write them down. I always wrote
      things down because it's easy to get overwhelmed w/ all the info the
      vets give you.

      If you do a search on the web, you can get all sorts of detailed info
      on echos.

      Good luck w/ Lillie.

      -Steph
      http://www.gussielou.com

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    • Tracey Tranen
      It isn t necessary to shave a cat for an ultrasound. The other option is to really soak the cat s belly and chest down with alcohol. It works just as well.
      Message 2 of 5 , Jan 1, 2004
        It isn't necessary to shave a cat for an ultrasound. The other option
        is to really soak the cat's belly and chest down with alcohol. It works
        just as well. My vet shaves on procedures only when *absolutely*
        necessary, since he is used to dealing with show cats and dogs.
        (Talking not only about ultrasounds here!).

        Minty (my cat with VSD ) is no show cat, but alcohol was still used for
        his ultrasound when the specialist came in. There's no advantage to
        shaving.

        When PKD clinics are organized in different areas, there are no Persians
        shaved down, only alcohol is used. There, the ultrasound is for kidneys
        and there is aLOT of fur... the results are sound.

        I would ask about using alcohol for Lillie's ultrasound.

        t2

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      • Susan
        ... It is just like what you see when babies are ultrasounded only you see the pumping and there is a band under the heart picture that has wavy lines that
        Message 3 of 5 , Jan 1, 2004
          --- turkishangoraathumanesociety
          <turkishangoraathumanesociety@...> wrote:
          > Okay...
          > Lillie has her 5 month echo with a Cardiologist in
          > a few days.
          > Since her original one was at a hospital after heart
          > failure...I have
          > no idea how it works. I know that it is some kind
          > of ultrasound of
          > the heart, but nothing else.
          > Do they take "snapshots" like xrays?

          It is just like what you see when babies are
          ultrasounded only you see the pumping and there is a
          band under the heart picture that has wavy lines that
          tell the vet how the heart is beating. Then they take
          snapshots that end up in the chart.

          Are the cats
          > (please say no)
          > anesthetcized?

          If at all possible they are not.

          Do they shave their fur? (This
          > really worries me,
          > because Lillie had a VERY traumatic experience at a
          > terrible vet's
          > office that shaved her, and she is supposed to be
          > under NO STRESS per
          > her I.M. specilaist).

          Most are shaved, Rudy does not get shaved just jelly
          on the instrument. The picture is supposed to be
          better without fur but I've seen the ultrasound and I
          can see it just fine, but Rudy is a DSH and even as
          DSHs go his fur is not thick.

          Also...have any of you been
          > there while they
          > do it?

          I am always there and help hold him. I am told to
          stroke his forehead because that is what mother cats
          do.

          How long does it take?

          About a half hour.

          How do they have them
          > lay while doing
          > it?

          Rudy is really small, the Dr. holds him up off the
          table and then kind of guides him over the ultrasound
          thing.

          Are they held down by anything (does the
          > procedure hurt/stress
          > them?) Thank you to anyone who can take me through
          > this.

          I have a feeling larger cats may need more restraint,
          Rudy is too small to be able to get away so he doesn't
          try.


          BTW Rudy now weighs 8.25 lbs. Must be middleage
          spread.

          Susan

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        • jen
          Hi, I was allowed to stay with Deagan when he was having his done. They did shave the hair off behind his front legs under his elbows, it took about 30 seconds
          Message 4 of 5 , Jan 1, 2004
            Hi,

            I was allowed to stay with Deagan when he was having his done.
            They did shave the hair off behind his front legs under his elbows,
            it took about 30 seconds for each side and he really hates the
            clippers too. He lay on a table with a cut out in the top and his
            chest was over the cut out. They used the wand (and gel) from the
            underside of the table and the whole procedure took about 1/2 hour.
            I held one end, his head and front legs for the first half and his
            back legs after we flipped him over. Deagan is *excellent* for the
            procedure, he doesn't move (much to my relief and stress level). It
            doesn't hurt at all, they just have to lie still on their side and
            have a thing rubbed against them while they get petted. Sedation is
            used only rarely from what I can gather.
            The echo is shown on the screen with the blood flow capnography
            at the bottom. They can measure wall thicknesses, outflow speeds and
            the amount of blood turbulence present, and examine the functionality
            of the valves. I completely agree with writing down all your
            questions before you go, I forgot to ask at least half of mine and
            came up with about 20 more after we left! Researching what all the
            terms and dimensions mean is really good as well - wall thicknesses,
            outflow tract speeds and resistances - something I wish I had done
            beforehand. Finally, request that a copy of the report be sent to
            you, and pull out the medical dictionary for interpretation!

            Good Luck!

            jen, deagan and kira the dog
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